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Cavaliers meeting with Gordon Hayward today

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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:00 PM

Cavaliers meeting with Gordon Hayward today 


Utah RFA Gordon Hayward is meeting with Cavaliers officials in Cleveland today, sources tell Yahoo. Offer sheet could be forthcoming.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:07 PM

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Maybe it's just me, but I just don't see all the fascination with Gordon Hayward.  I'd much rather give an offer sheet to Parsons before Hayward.  I'd also rather sign Trevor Ariza outright over giving Hayward an offer sheet.  The guy averaged nice numbers offensively last year, but doesn't seem to play much in the way of defense whereas Parsons and Ariza can actually play both ends of the floor.  Again I'm sure I'm in the minority on this point of view.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:12 PM

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Cavs believed to be preparing a max offer sheet for restricted free agent Gordon Hayward, sources said. Yahoo reported he is visiting today.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:13 PM

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I love this guy if he's not number 1 option like he was asked to be last season in Utah. He does everything well - a sort of Pippen like player but not as good a defender. Capable defender just not Pippen.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:17 PM

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JBear1 wrote:

Cavs believed to be preparing a max offer sheet for restricted free agent Gordon Hayward, sources said. Yahoo reported he is visiting today.

Would be very disappointed if this happened! You don't give complementary type players the max  banghead
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:19 PM

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Okay I see we are going to have shooters and slashers for coach Blatt's offense

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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:22 PM

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Max offer would be 4years at 63.5million. Thats 15.8mill a year. Thats a lot of coin.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:23 PM

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It looks like teams have their wallets wide open.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:23 PM

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I am a big Hayward fan, but a max offer seems like a lot for a non all star talent.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:24 PM

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Would much rather give the money/offer to Parsons, who I view as a superior player in nearly every aspect of the game.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:28 PM

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Yes it is. Our options are overpay some for a FA or try and bottom feed with the CJ Miles types. Our chance at attracting a marquee player when we haven't been to the playoffs in 5 years is not that high.

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Max offer would be 4years at 63.5million. Thats 15.8mill a year. Thats a lot of coin.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:28 PM

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His defense in underrated.

Max money at $15M per is just insane, hopefully that's not what we're looking to do.  The lineup would look really good with him in it though.  They put too much on him last year and his percentages dropped significantly, he'd be in a better position here though.

The attitude, leadership, and clutch play would benefit the entire lineup.  This is a rising tide type individual.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:29 PM

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could be that he has been approached and does not want to come here
mcnicol21 wrote: Would much rather give the money/offer to Parsons, who I view as a superior player in nearly every aspect of the game.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:32 PM

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Cleveland has to to over pay FA's. That's just the way it is!


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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:33 PM

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I like both Parsons and Hayward but in terms of comparing the two, I think you have to look at the teams surrounding each guy. How would Parsons do as the main focus of the offense as Hayward was in Utah? Conversely how would Hayward do getting better open looks and less focus playing along side Howard, Harden and an overall better team in Houston? That said; it looks like the Cavs are going to overpay for a FA no matter what.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:39 PM

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I love this guy if he's not number 1 option like he was asked to be last season in Utah. He does everything well - a sort of Pippen like player but not as good a defender. Capable defender just not Pippen.

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Hayward might make an occasional block from behind highlight, but some writers have him high on their bad defense ratings.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:42 PM

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@KBergCBS: If Cavs make max offer to Gordon Hayward, it would be a four-year, $63m deal starting at $14.8m. He made $3.5m last season.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 1:48 PM

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Would much rather give the money/offer to Parsons, who I view as a superior player in nearly every aspect of the game.

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I don't advocate paying Hayward max money, but I struggle with how anyone views Parsons as clearly superior? They are pretty similar players. The main difference is one played on a much better team, whereas the other was miscast as the primary option.

Both players would help the Cavs equally, IMO. The cost is the real question.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:00 PM

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ottograham14 wrote: @KBergCBS: If Cavs make max offer to Gordon Hayward, it would be a four-year, $63m deal starting at $14.8m. He made $3.5m last season.

There have been a dozen crazy Cavalier rumors in the last month or so.  The ended up with the best coach, and the best pick instead of all of them.  Maybe just because a max deal is being rummored it isn't actually so.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:02 PM

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If he is the third or fourth scoring option, which he could be here, you are looking at an excellent team. Still young as a team, with tremendous upside.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:05 PM

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He would probably be the third scoring option, maybe second this year as Wiggins gets used to NBA game. Waiters will be traded if we sign Hayward in my opinion.

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If he is the third or fourth scoring option, which he could be here, you are looking at an excellent team. Still young as a team, with tremendous upside.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:06 PM

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-24 years old
- Better shooter than Parsons
-Fills a huge need
-Character guy

The guy does everything well. Still has upside and I think he is better all around player than Parsons.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:12 PM

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Max offer is too much for him
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:12 PM

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tommybo wrote:
Yes it is. Our options are overpay some for a FA or try and bottom feed with the CJ Miles types. Our chance at attracting a marquee player when we haven't been to the playoffs in 5 years is not that high.

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Max offer would be 4years at 63.5million. Thats 15.8mill a year. Thats a lot of coin.

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Or it is to start drafting and finding undervalued free agents.  There are very few players worthy of max deals and it is stupid to go out and spend money on players that aren't worth it.  The guy shoots 41% from the field.   Not very efficient.

We don't have to go to the bottom feeders but good FO's find undervalued players that don't kill their cap so that they can give out the big money to players that are worthy.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:16 PM

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mcnicol21 wrote: Would much rather give the money/offer to Parsons, who I view as a superior player in nearly every aspect of the game.
Parsons is not going to come here, because Cleveland is not sexy enough! The best way to do anything is be like San Antonio get players that want to play together and not out shine each other....there is not one true superstar on there team, but they play tough, and unselfish and that's what we have to realize as fans your not going to get the Melo's or Jizzes to comes here and if we can get a Hayward and trade for another same tier level player and build something I'm alright with that!

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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:17 PM

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I like Hayward, but you don't give a max contract to a guy that shot 41% from the field. He was 30% from 3pt range.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:30 PM

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He's not worth a max contract , but his career shooting numbers are noticeably better than last year.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:32 PM

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I do not see Parsons or Hayward being worth a Max deal. I am gonna trust the Cavs on this one. Question is if Hayward signs.

Who goes?

Lot of bodies at the 2/3 position.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:35 PM

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Waiters and Jack goodbye. Looks like Blatt likes big guards
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Posted: 7/2/2014 2:38 PM

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Wannabstud85 wrote: -24 years old
- Better shooter than Parsons
-Fills a huge need
-Character guy

The guy does everything well. Still has upside and I think he is better all around player than Parsons.
I'm with you here.  Not sure I max the contract, but if that's what it takes to get Utah not to match I'm in.  We are putting a real premium on shooting this offseason...me likey.

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