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Re: Eighth Annual Rookie Mock Draft - Discussion Thread

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Posted: 3/17/2012 1:23 PM

Re: Eighth Annual Rookie Mock Draft - Discussion Thread 


Kansas City

11. David DeCastro, LG, Stanford
44. Kelechi Osemele, RT, Iowa State
75. Mychal Kendricks, ILB, California

Charles and Hillis probably would be pretty happy with this draft. DeCastro and Osemele are both excellent run blockers and would likely be upgrades in pass protection as well. Kendricks starts inside next to Derrick Johnson, improving KC's already talented front 7.

Could still use a nose tackle prospect, depth at TE and a quality defensive back.
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Posted: 3/17/2012 4:41 PM

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Philadelphia

1. DT  Fletcher Cox, MIss. St.
2. FS Mark Barron, Alabama
3. RB Doug Martin, Boise St.
4. CB Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech

DT Fletcher Cox - Like most Andy Reid drafts the eagles went with a defensive lineman first.  I loved watching him play and have held steady since last year that he was a first round guy.  Then he blew up the combine at 6.4' 300 lbs with 34 1/2" arms he ran a 4.79 forty and put up 30 reps on the bench.  His production is great the last 2 years and he has blcoked 5 kicks.

FS Mark Barron - at  6.1", 213 lbs he dropped in the draft from a double hernia operation.  Barron is a tough guy, because he was playing through the pain of the hernia the last part of their season.  Word is that he will recover fine and he has scheduled his workout for March 29th.  Barron is a long lanky safety with long arms and great range.  He is the quarterback of the secondary and played in Alabama's pro-style defense.  He can cover tight ends and slot receivers and play in the box.  He played both free and strong safety at Alabama.  The Eagles really needed a safety, this would be a dream

RB Doug Martin - at 5.9 1/4", 223 lbs he is built like the MJD and Ray Rice type of backs.  He is one of my favorite players in this draft because he is such a complete running back.  He can pass block, catch, run in between the tackles and still has speed - he returned kicks for Boise.  He is such a shifty, quick back that is always going forward and makes people miss.  Philly has the luxury to make this pick, Ronnie Brown is gone and they could use an amazing guy like Martin to take pressure off of McCoy and back him up.

CB Jayron Hosley - he is smaller at 5.10" 178lbs. but he tackles very well.  Hosley had 9 INTs as a sophmore and he is a top ten punt returner in college.  He ran a Combine 4.47.  (I'm seeing a lot of pro day 4.4 but you must add some time on to those)  I love Hosley in coverage, he is so solid and a dangerous playmaker.  Philly's so called Dream Team, needs a CB to cover the slot.

2012 - the year we didn't get RGIII but landed John Hughes!

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Posted: 3/17/2012 10:19 PM

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Well, I liked my draft so far. 

I will mention something that has not been discussed locally, nor national, regarding the Cleveland Browns.

The Browns are sitting on these nine draft choices, with a chance of geting a few supplemental or compensatory picks.  I don't believe the media understands the significance of them.

Lets talk Tom Heckert for just a minute.

Say the St. Louis Rams really want to move back to the fourth pick for  the LT, WR or CB.  Minneosta is going to take one of these three players, but St. Louis will have their choice of one of the remaining blue chip players.

People will say, the Browns would not make a deal with St. Louis since they did not get the second pick.  Baloney!

Tom Heckert says, give us your 6th pick, 39th pick and WR, Danny Amendola.  Danny Amendola was a target and the Browns now have their veteran WR.  They would have the 6th, 22nd, 37th, 39th, 68th annd approximately 100.

OK, lets go back to the discussion of this draft.

4. The Browns selected RGIII, QB, Baylor
22. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

Two things of significance with these two picks.  A friend of mine who I believe has a pretty good handle on the draft process, said, those two picks makes the Browns draft an automatic.  What would be nice about this combination, is that they played together in  school, so they are just taking their game to the next level of competition.

Now, I believe we all thought the major weakness on the defense was the RDE.   Considering, the two free agents Tom Heckert signed, this pick, is even better.  He can be brought along at what ever pace that works for him.  He can be the fourth DE, with Sheard starting at LDE and two solid veterans starting at the RDE and the other being a solid alternate at either side.

37. Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
The next pick takes care of another weakness on the offensive side of the ball.

68. Chris Polk, RB, Washington.

Again, it would be nice for a few more free agents to be signed, but right now four key pieces are added to the Cleveland Browns and there are more picks.  Now we know that Tom Heckert is not going to get RGIII, but he is going to do very well with his first four picks.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 1:44 PM

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If anyone hears the announcement of the compenatory picks later this week or over the weekend please send me a PM and let me know where to find the information so I can update the draft picks schedule.

Thanks in advance.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 6:57 PM

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ramllov wrote: Well, I liked my draft so far. 

OK, lets go back to the discussion of this draft.

4. The Browns selected RGIII, QB, Baylor
22. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

Two things of significance with these two picks.  A friend of mine who I believe has a pretty good handle on the draft process, said, those two picks makes the Browns draft an automatic.  What would be nice about this combination, is that they played together in  school, so they are just taking their game to the next level of competition.

Ram,

I think the point made above is a good one.  I suggest you could make the same case for drafting Blackmon and Weeden.  Blackmon would likely have to be selected at 4.  Weeden, on the other hand, might last until 68.  In between, not considering trades, you could still get your RB and a choice of OL, DB, LB, even DE (can't have too many).

A rookie QB needs receivers who know what they're doing, because the rookie QB is already struggling to figure out what he's doing.  We don't really have any veteran WRs to help a rookie QB at this point.  The next best thing might be a WR the QB already knows and trusts.  Blackmon/Weeden could be that combo.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 9:34 PM

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The Titans are having a SOBO approved draft...I am showing his rankings by position surprised

1. Nick Perry, #1 DE, USC - Immediate Starter
2. Mike Brewster, #2  C, tOSU - Immediate Starter
3. George Iloka, #1 S, Boise State - Immediate Rotation - Groomed for starter next year

George Iloka was my third round pick. I really like this player. By all account, Iloka dominated the Senior Bow practices l and then went out and showed solid -> very solid burst at the combine. He ran a 4.66, but his times in the other drills were at the top of his class. The guy can cover - teams have talked about moving him to corner. And he can definitely tackle at 6'4, 225. I think he is a total package type player and I was stunned to see some other safeties off the board before him. I see him as either the best safety or the second best in this class. Considering the Titans will have two free agent safeties next year, this was an easy pick.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 10:32 PM

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It is soon to get interesting.

The Browns have two picks in the fourth round and an early pick in the fifth.

I have the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh rounds on the "picks only" thread.

If anyone has a few minutes to check the accuracy of these, especially the fourth round, I would appreciate it.

There is not an official list published, since the compensatory picks have not yet been announced.

This coming weekend or the first part of next week they should be announced and a complete updated picks list should be available.

I just would like to have someone double check my accuracy for the fourth round.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 8:52 AM

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Three rounds are in the books and now it does get interesting.

The last two picks took members off my short list for the Cleveland Browns and I have to wait until about 8 pm to night to my the next pick.  I know I have two players i really like, but at this time, I am almost sure a few members picking before me have the same two players.

I was listening to Tony Pauline on the local Southern Florida radio this morning.  He was talking about the draft and the radio host is a pro football player from the Dolphins undefeated season.  It sure was awhile ago.

Tony talked about the draft, the strengths and the weaknesses.  The weaknesses being safeties and offensive tackles.  He thought quality players were still available at WR, guard, CB and a few other positions.  It will be interesting to see what we pick during the fourth round.  There appeared to be a run on some defensive player positions which I will discuss later today.

We had a few members drop out/withdraw, but they did provide notice by sending me a PM, which I appreciate.  Some members on the wait list have not responded to PMs, so we will pass them by. 

The reason why I try to get 20 to 25 or even more members to repeat from previous years becomes pretty obvious at this time in our mock draft.  Members who have not participated seem to have a great amount of interest in January, but either drop from the OBR or this forum or just don't believe it is that interesting in March.

Many members now participating on this draft have come from previous wait lists and particiapted and then continue to do so.

I probably will need to make a list of members who would like to have a second team.  It is getting to that point where some very good members don't feel as comforatable about making picks in the fifth, sixth and seventh round.

I do want to thank everyone for their participation.  We are doing pretty well.  The next week starting Monday could become a little confusing once the compsensatory picks are announced.

I did have one member mention that he sets an alarm on his wrist watch for his next pick, I beleive he said it was next week.  I had to respond with a PM to remind him the schedule could change on Sunday or Monday, if the NFL announced the comp picks.  We will have to make up the end of the third round or depending upon the timing the end of the fourth round.

I do want to mention that we will have a week in the near future where we will suspend the draft.  My wife decided we were going to go on a cruise during our daughters spring break.  I doubt I will have adequate time to follow through or maybe even have access to the internet.  It will be something to find out.  How many books can i read during six or seven days on a ship?
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:47 PM

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Tebow trade.

Denver gets the Jets 4th and 6th and Denver give up their 7th.

The bloom is coming off the flower, if your name is Mark Sanchez!!!
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Posted: 3/21/2012 7:12 PM

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The Tebow trade is not finalized and may not be completed with the Jets.

I believe Ronnell Lewis was just drafted for the second time in the draft.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 8:25 PM

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Thank you I sent Minnesota a PM and made a conditional pick of the next best OLB.

I have received a PM from the Philadelphia owner and I told him to take some time due to the mistake.

I am the next team up, so we should get the draft back on schedule soon.

The New York Jets don't read the details.  There appear to be many teams interested in Tebow.

I have not yet updated the draft pick for for this trade.  I figured there was a snafu.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 9:41 PM

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I did not have too much fun making a decision as to which player I was going to select.

T Y Hilton, WR, Florida International was selected one pick prior to the Cleveland Browns.  I wanted to select him.

Fortunately, he was picked so I selected Michael Schwartz, OT, California.  He might not be able to start in 2012, but he should develop into a very good RT.  It does not hurt that he started at left tackle for the past two years and excelled in his performance.  He is smart and should be able to get stronger as he learns the NFL game.

So, the Browns draft goes like this.

4. RGIII, QB - I watched a lot of his workout on ESPN III.  He looked really good as wel as his WR, K. Wright.
22. Kendall Wright, WR - ran 4.43 today in the college workout
37. Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
68. Chris Polk, RB, Washington
100. Michael Schwartz, OT, California

I like this draft.  Five areas are addressed.  All of these players should  be starting in 2013.
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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:15 PM

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ramllov wrote: I did not have too much fun making a decision as to which player I was going to select.

T Y Hilton, WR, Florida International was selected one pick prior to the Cleveland Browns.  I wanted to select him.

Fortunately, he was picked so I selected Michael Schwartz, OT, California.  He might not be able to start in 2012, but he should develop into a very good RT.  It does not hurt that he started at left tackle for the past two years and excelled in his performance.  He is smart and should be able to get stronger as he learns the NFL game.

So, the Browns draft goes like this.

4. RGIII, QB - I watched a lot of his workout on ESPN III.  He looked really good as wel as his WR, K. Wright.
22. Kendall Wright, WR - ran 4.43 today in the college workout
37. Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
68. Chris Polk, RB, Washington
100. Michael Schwartz, OT, California

I like this draft.  Five areas are addressed.  All of these players should  be starting in 2013.

Well now I'm glad I grabbed TY Hilton for the Eagles because I think OT Mitchell Schwartz is a better pick for the draft you have going for the Browns.  Kendall Wright and T.Y. Hilton are too similar in what they would do.   I think Schwartz will be picked before this and represents grreat value.  A solid offensive lineman who started all 50 games at Cal!  He can get to the 2nd level and is a good run blocker.  great pick.

Not to say I'm not glad I picked T.Y. "goodbye" Hilton.  He can be used in the return game for the Eagles.  With that 4.33 speed he can fill for Desean for some plays.  Eagles draft so far:

15. DT Fletcher Cox, Miss. St.
46. FS Mark Barron, Alabama
51. RB Doug Martin, Boise St.
77. CB Jayron Hosley, Viginia Tech
99. WR T.Y. Hilton, Florida Intl.

2012 - the year we didn't get RGIII but landed John Hughes!

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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:44 PM

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Ram, 

Are we switching the Jets 4th round pick to the Broncos now that we know the trade is official?  Thanks!
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Posted: 3/22/2012 6:54 PM

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In 2011, Armond Smith gained 2 yards for the Cleveland Browns on 3 carries.  He is now known as ArmondSmith2yd.

So I'm wondering why ArmondSmith2K didn't try to work a trade with the Browns in our Mock Draft, such as trading KC's fourth-rounder to Cleveland for ArmondSmith2yd.

Apparently, not even ArmondSmith2k believes ArmondSmith2yd is worth a fourth round pick. 

Ouch. 

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Posted: 3/22/2012 7:09 PM

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Pioli and I are just confident the idjits running the Browns will let him sign with us for chump change like they just did with the only other decent back they had on the roster.

tongue

He'd get 2k absolutely np behind the offensive line I've assembled.

tguster wrote:
In 2011, Armond Smith gained 2 yards for the Cleveland Browns on 3 carries.  He is now known as ArmondSmith2yd.

So I'm wondering why ArmondSmith2K didn't try to work a trade with the Browns in our Mock Draft, such as trading KC's fourth-rounder to Cleveland for ArmondSmith2yd.

Apparently, not even ArmondSmith2k believes ArmondSmith2yd is worth a fourth round pick. 

Ouch. 

devil
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Posted: 3/22/2012 7:46 PM

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ArmondSmith2k wrote: Pioli and I are just confident the idjits running the Browns will let him sign with us for chump change like they just did with the only other decent back they had on the roster.

tongue

He'd get 2k absolutely np behind the offensive line I've assembled.

tguster wrote:
In 2011, Armond Smith gained 2 yards for the Cleveland Browns on 3 carries.  He is now known as ArmondSmith2yd.

So I'm wondering why ArmondSmith2K didn't try to work a trade with the Browns in our Mock Draft, such as trading KC's fourth-rounder to Cleveland for ArmondSmith2yd.

Apparently, not even ArmondSmith2k believes ArmondSmith2yd is worth a fourth round pick. 

Ouch. 

devil
You have built a helluva line there AS2k.  Glad you can take a joke too.  Too many around here can't or won't.
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Posted: 3/22/2012 8:33 PM

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34853_thumbup.GIF to that.
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Posted: 3/22/2012 9:06 PM

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I don't know now many members participating in this mock draf or just observing, actually are noticing that there are some good players left on the board and we are about 1/2 way through the fourth round.

I have heard from two members, one on this thread and one through a PM, well also this thread.  They were surprised a player was still on the board and the other remarked that his board was blown up by the past ten picks.  I guess that just goes to show the quality of our drafting members on this game.

We have about 110 plaeyrs drafted, but the following breakdown is only through 96, since the compensatory picks have not yet been announced.  I am hoping they are announced Monday morning, better Sunday night.

Offense

QBs - 2 -- 2-- 1-- total 5
RBs - 1--3--- 5 --total 9
WRs - 5--2--5-- total 12
TEs - 1--1--0-- total 2
OTs - 4--2--1--total 7
OGs - 2--5--2 total 9
OCs - 1--1--0 total 2

ToT --16--16--14--total 46

Defense

DEs - 3--4--2-- total 9
DTs -- 5--3--2 total 10
OLBs- 3---2--4- total 9
ILBs - 2--0--1-- total 3
CBs ---3--5--6 total 14
Ss ---0--2---2- total 4

TOT - 16--16--17--total 49

GTOT - 32 --32--31 - total 95

This does provide some interesting statistics.  The weakness in the drarft so far seem to be ILBs and Safeties on defense.  The tight ends and centers seem to be the weaker areas on the offense.  No kickers or fullbacks are been drafted.

Wide receivers and cornerbacks appear to be the most popular.  The DEs, DTs and OLBs appear to be pretty strong.  Running backs and offensive guards look good.  It appears the best OTs are at the top of the draft.

I wonder how the draft gurus are discussing this draft class.  It seems our 32 members have their ideas.
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Posted: 3/22/2012 10:49 PM

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I had the Jags....

Rd1-Claiborne CB: I was pretty happy Claiborne fell into my lap. I was prepared to do a bit of reaching otherwise; either for Floyd or a pass rusher (I was prepared to take Perry and duck). Luckily, the skins took Poe which left me with the top defensive player at #7.

Rd2-Zeiter OL: Ram made this pick for me, as the second round crept up on my (thanks ram). I was going to go WR in rd2 then OL in rd3; however, the difference between Zeiter and some OL in rd3 were much greater. Possible replacement for Meester next year as well...

Rd3-Criner WR: Sanu was snatched right in front of me, but I was happy to get a big-bodied WR that can run solid patterns for Gabbert. In addition, he had a pretty decent pro day a few days before the pick was made, so he was solidified on my rd3 board.

Rd4-Rainer KR/WR/RB: Wanted to get Gabbert another weapon, bolster the return game, add a dynamic of elite speed, and provide a change-of-pace RB to MJD/Karjim. Plus, the allure of adding a UF alum will always help in Jacksonville. Also, my rd4 board got shredded the ten picks before mine, so I took a chance on Rainey.
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