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Posted: 3/6/2013 7:55 AM

Shamarko Thomas 


I have a question for the people who follow this much more closely than me.....

If Shamarko is there in the 3rd round should we consider him (projected 2nd or 3rd round right now)?   More importantly can he play FS?   

When I watched him at SU, he always seemed to be around the ball.   At the combine he showed the best vertical and ran a very solid 40 time for a safety.

Ideally he would be a little bigger than 5'9, but for some reason I see him as a playmaker and someone who fits the "little guys that can hit" Horton is looking for.

I guess I don't know enough about him to understand if he has good enough cover skills to slide to FS??

With the way things are trending I think the line between FS and SS is blurred anyways - just seeing if people think he is a good positional fit for this attacking style defense.   I would think having good safeties is a very high priority.

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Posted: 3/6/2013 8:17 AM

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pbgolfer wrote:

I have a question for the people who follow this much more closely than me.....

If Shamarko is there in the 3rd round should we consider him (projected 2nd or 3rd round right now)?   More importantly can he play FS?   

When I watched him at SU, he always seemed to be around the ball.   At the combine he showed the best vertical and ran a very solid 40 time for a safety.

Ideally he would be a little bigger than 5'9, but for some reason I see him as a playmaker and someone who fits the "little guys that can hit" Horton is looking for.

I guess I don't know enough about him to understand if he has good enough cover skills to slide to FS??

With the way things are trending I think the line between FS and SS is blurred anyways - just seeing if people think he is a good positional fit for this attacking style defense.   I would think having good safeties is a very high priority.

I really don't have an opinion on Shamarko as a potential Safety in the Browns new defense,  but I did want to comment on your post. It is very well reasoned and expressed, thank you for sharing.
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Posted: 3/6/2013 8:30 AM

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I came to a similar conclusion regarding Thomas the other day while doing one of our games.

I tend to think he's a perfect combination of what both Horton and Lombardi seek. He's a "little guy that can hit" like Horton prefers, while he hits most of the metrics Lombardi will be looking for as an athlete.

Thomas isn't an ideal free safety to pair with Ward, but his ability to play in the box at a similar level could make them interchangeable pieces within the defense. It simply would come down to how Horton could fully utilize both.

With that said, Thomas may be a very good option for the team early in the third without a second round pick -- if he's even available.

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Posted: 3/6/2013 8:55 AM

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SOBOdawg wrote: I came to a similar conclusion regarding Thomas the other day while doing one of our games.

I tend to think he's a perfect combination of what both Horton and Lombardi seek. He's a "little guy that can hit" like Horton prefers, while he hits most of the metrics Lombardi will be looking for as an athlete.

Thomas isn't an ideal free safety to pair with Ward, but his ability to play in the box at a similar level could make them interchangeable pieces within the defense. It simply would come down to how Horton could fully utilize both.

With that said, Thomas may be a very good option for the team early in the third without a second round pick -- if he's even available.
As you say, Thomas fits perfectly Horton's "little guy that can hit" philosophy. However, with Ward already established as our SS it is debatable whether or not Thomas would be a good fit.

I could certainly see him fitting in somewhere like Dallas, performing a kind of 'Bob Sanders' role in new DC Monte Kiffin's Tampa 2. There is a Combine comparison between Sanders & Thomas here:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2013/3/5/406775 0/2013-nfl-draft-scouting-report-shamarko-thomas-s -syracuse
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Posted: 3/6/2013 9:20 AM

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Thomas just isn't strong in pass coverage. Bad angles, slow initial reactions.

I think he's better off playing closer to the LOS.
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Posted: 3/6/2013 2:14 PM

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Hey Browns fans. Im new to the forum. Im a huge browns fan, and i live for all Cleveland sports. I figured my first post should be regarding one of my favorite players in this draft.

To me Shamarko Thomas is the top safety in this class. I think he is a much more fluid player than Vaccaro, he is much better in pass coverage than Elam and has better ball skills than Reid.

However, as far as playing in the Browns system i feel like he and T.J. Ward are too similar of players. A player that i feel would mesh better with Ward would be Phillip Thomas out of Fresno State. He could have ran a faster 40 time but his first 10 looked explosive and he looks quicker in pads. Hes 6-1 so he has good size. I've watched tape on him but has anyone else disected his game and think he could be in contention to get picked by the Browns in the 3rd?
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Posted: 3/6/2013 3:32 PM

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DawgPound1992 wrote: Hey Browns fans. Im new to the forum. Im a huge browns fan, and i live for all Cleveland sports. I figured my first post should be regarding one of my favorite players in this draft.

To me Shamarko Thomas is the top safety in this class. I think he is a much more fluid player than Vaccaro, he is much better in pass coverage than Elam and has better ball skills than Reid.

However, as far as playing in the Browns system i feel like he and T.J. Ward are too similar of players. A player that i feel would mesh better with Ward would be Phillip Thomas out of Fresno State. He could have ran a faster 40 time but his first 10 looked explosive and he looks quicker in pads. Hes 6-1 so he has good size. I've watched tape on him but has anyone else disected his game and think he could be in contention to get picked by the Browns in the 3rd?
Welcome to the forum. You can check out three video cut-ups of Phillip Thomas from last season here:
http://draftbreakdown.com/players/phillip-thomas

Thomas has made a great comeback after missing 2011 due to injury and recorded plenty of impact plays. He mostly played close to the line of scrimmage in these videos, and was often exposed when he was put into coverage. IMHO, he's not really the kind of 'rangy' free safety that would be the ideal compliment to TJ Ward. From what I see, he is more a SS than a FS and for that reason, although he is regarded as a 3rd rd pick by many good judges, I wouldn't take him in the 3rd rd for the Browns. Others may well feel differently.

Last edited 3/6/2013 3:33 PM by BritDawg

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