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Re: Lombardi couldn't find steel in a bag of Hammers

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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:41 PM

Re: Lombardi couldn't find steel in a bag of Hammers 



poppa9601 wrote:

However if we do trade for someone I rather it be Mallet than a guy with no future like A.Smith.


I'm starting to feel like Alex Smith's lawyer. But "no future", really? Like what, he's going to get cut and be out of the league within two years?

He's got a future. It may be undetermined at to what level, but he's going to play in the league for awhile.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 3:19 PM

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Gameface64 wrote:
poppa9601 wrote:

However if we do trade for someone I rather it be Mallet than a guy with no future like A.Smith.


I'm starting to feel like Alex Smith's lawyer. But "no future", really? Like what, he's going to get cut and be out of the league within two years?

He's got a future. It may be undetermined at to what level, but he's going to play in the league for awhile.

Great line there Game. You and that crazy SD have kept me in stitches today.

Bad choice of words on my part, more like no upside.

Alex Smith isn't leading any team to a championship. We can fail with who we already have, that's my point. No need to waste resourses signing or trading for what we already have.

The difference between Smith and Weeden is we know Smith can't get it done. His own HC benched him with his team leading the division. If they don't want him, why should we?

What we don't know is how good Weeden could be in an offense designed to take advantage of his skill set. I hope we get a chance to see.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:21 PM

Re: Lombardi couldn't find steel in a bag of Hammers 



Gameface64 wrote:
poppa9601 wrote:

However if we do trade for someone I rather it be Mallet than a guy with no future like A.Smith.


I'm starting to feel like Alex Smith's lawyer. But "no future", really? Like what, he's going to get cut and be out of the league within two years?

He's got a future. It may be undetermined at to what level, but he's going to play in the league for awhile.
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Smith does have a future, Indeed he is better than  what most teams have as a starting QB.  If the talk of big arm downfield QB is just smoke and mirrors, he could be Chuds guy and if he is the "fit" he is a good choice. He has become and NFL quality QB.  IMO, the discussion of Smith being unacceptable is largely based on what we are supposed to have as an offense. Smith doesn't sparkle and shine, but he is solid if in a stable offense.

I don't see him as a fit with our challenged offense, nor as a fit in what Turner has run as an offense, still Lombardi??? Chud???  who knows?
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Posted: 2/19/2013 12:04 PM

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"I'm starting to feel like Alex Smith's lawyer. But "no future", really?"

-- Smith has some experience and has a good relationship with Turner as far as I can see. If he can be gotten for the right price, the Browns could do worse. But where can he take them with his skill set and his age?

Weeden is a bit more of an unknown. But he also is the same age as Smith. His time for any learning curve is a bit constricted. That was down-played last year, but is perhaps a bit more on the radar now. 

Both guys have some good and some bad. Both are limited as far as being "franchise QBs". If the Browns can get Smith for the right price, there's little down-side and at least the upside of having some experience and depth at that position.

Not sure what to make of Lombardi at this point. It will be interesting to see how the new guys do.

As far as Haslam, the new owner still gets a C at this point. It's funny how owners attract criticism and praise. However that is masked by "evaluation". 

Lerner had the image of being a Cleveland guy who wore Browns PJs in his youth. His Cleveland "connections" were counted on by some, even though he spent more time in Long Island and bought a soccer team in England. But the team's lack of consistency and the team's record under him tell the final truth about his era.

Now we have Haslam. There are some who praise his persona and experience and looks and some who criticize his FO and his Knoxville ties and truck-stop experience. What will really matter is the team's record in his era. Until then, however, the scene is open for dog fights of any shape. 

My dog so far distrusts the Banner/Lombardi connection but likes the Chud/Turner connection. A definite C. Which is reliably unreliable and disputably indisputable. 



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