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FAcy and Draft

Posted: 2/8/2013 7:52 PM

FAcy and Draft 

There's been a lot of discussion as to how active the Browns will be in FAcy and what kind of FA's the team might bring in. So I thought I would compile a list for your discussion/destruction as to who I think would be solid FA signings and possible draft picks.

FA's
Matt Moore QB Miami
Vasquez OG SD
Keller TE NYJ
Barwin LB Hou/Groves LB SD
Johnson FS AZ/Landry FS NYJ

A lot of talk about Alex Smith and the Browns, and Smith did play 1 year with Norv as his OC. But in that year Smith completed 58% of his passes for 2890yds with 16 TD's and 16 int's. Those are McCoy numbers. Besides Moore would come cheaper and without costing a draft pick. SF has too much invested in Smith to let him just walk.

Vasquez is a plug-in and play OG who knows the Turner offense.
Keller is a replacemnet for Watson and averages 50 catches per year.
Barwin is 6'3" 260+ and Groves is the same. Either one or both would be a major upgrade.
Johnson is a FS who played for Horton the last 2 years. Landry is a FS who plays like a SS.

The draft

#6 Millner CB Alabama- Solid all around CB who's not afraid to help support against the run.
#68 Jenkins OLB Flordia St- Speed of the edge
#101 Tyler Bray Tennessee- Not my pick but if he's there in the 4th, Haslam jumps. Has the tools, needs work, and lots of it. Little doubt they draft a QB somewhere.
#132 Uzzi OG Georgia Tech- Those boys at tech can run block, this guys a road grader.
#165 Graham RB Pittsburgh- Nice compliment to the power of TRich.
#196 Sturgis PK Flordia- He's not Phil Dawson but he's made 85% of his FG's the last 2 years.

Having Landry on the backend pair with Ward and Millner who is very much like Haden would make a nice secondary. Barwin and/or Groves at OLB along with Jenkins plus our holdovers would make for a solid LBing corps.

Moore would be decent competition for Weeden at QB and be a solid backup. Vasquez at one guard spot with Lavuao, Pinky, Greco and Uzzi competing for the other really makes the o-line a strenght.

Keller at TE with Gordon and Little out wide and Cooper/Benjami in the slot and Weeden at the controls of a vertical passing/power running offense would be sweet. Wouldn't mind a vetrean WR in there somewhere. Edelman is a FA and a Welker clone. We'd really have a chance to make some noise.

Will we sign 5 FA's? Doubt it. But only Vasquez and Landry would cost decent money. The rest could be had at reasonable contracts. And with 45 million under the cap and having to spend 89% of it, it's got to go somewhere.

Well that's my list. Tear it apart if you must, just have the stones to put one up of your own.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 8:52 PM

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Tear it apart?

I like it. Would pass on Moore & just give Weeds a 2nd year but like the rest.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 9:27 PM

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I like the addition of Moore.  Doubt he is a start out replacement for Weeds, but see him as a replacement for McCoy. Further, Moore not only plays a similar game as Weeds, fits the reputed Norv offense, but if Weeds does fail, Moore steps in as the place holder while we search for a franchise Qb. I don't see a better choice of franchise QB than Weeds in this FA or draft.

Moore may want to  be a starter. He could compete and push Weeds. Imo, the decision would be to go with Weeds unless Moore is lights out better. I am looking for Moore to be signed as an incentive laden contract not franchise money. He gets a shot. He can earn the spot. It shouldn't be given to him. If he demands top dollar,well there is always Anderson.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:19 AM

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I like the Bray pickup. There's something about Weeds that I don't like. Seems like one of those kids who grins like he knows what's going on, but really doesn't. Hope I'm wrong, and I'm fine with finding out. Either way, having a young developmental guy behind the old rookie is a good idea. Another option here would be to nab lesser known prospects with vertical tools, but later in the draft or as UDFA's. It's a real challenge for the scouting staff, but finding those diamonds is what it's all about. What better place than Cleveland for the next Brady or Romo.

The draft mayhem will be interesting. Some QB will rise up. It will be interesting to see how the Browns respond.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:55 AM

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Offense
   TE
 Ben Watson .. Really think it would be a good idea to resign him .
1) still believe he is in football shape and can produce for another 2-3 years
2) Team player who really wants to be here .. not flashy but clutch and consistent
3) Knows the AFC North and how to attack them

Draft Kelce or Fauria

WR  
 There is a need here ... although I think Gordon and Little are on their way to becoming the core to this unit , a injury to either one would be a drastic hit ...

Brian Hartline ... I think he could be the steal of FA .. and would be a perfect fit in this offense
 Of course you could continue to build through the draft I think Keenan Davis  in later rnds that could be a sleeper

OG
Vasquez would be nice considering he knows Norvs system , I get the feeling that the Chargers resign him
 I would trade down in the first grab a second rnd pick and draft Chance Warmack .

With all the attention to the defensive side of the ball .. the Offense of recent years has been .... Well offensive ...
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Posted: 2/9/2013 10:39 AM

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Keller can't stay healthy.

LaRon Landry is a FS who plays like a SS, but unfortunately he covers like a SS. In a passing league, we should sign a true FS. Landry is a hard hard hitter though. Don't know the other guy.

Moore's allright, but if Weeden fails, he's just a stop gap, not a long term solution. I've made my QB case in other threads, its too important to keep trying half ass fixes. Go large or sit home again. Simple math; the Seahawks spent on Matt Flynn but also drafted Wilson. They doubled their chances of success. We have the resources to invest.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 11:54 AM

Better late than never 


poppa9601 wrote: There's been a lot of discussion as to how active the Browns will be in FAcy and what kind of FA's the team might bring in. So I thought I would compile a list for your discussion/destruction as to who I think would be solid FA signings and possible draft picks.

FA's
Matt Moore QB Miami
Vasquez OG SD
Keller TE NYJ
Barwin LB Hou/Groves LB SD
Johnson FS AZ/Landry FS NYJ

A lot of talk about Alex Smith and the Browns, and Smith did play 1 year with Norv as his OC. But in that year Smith completed 58% of his passes for 2890yds with 16 TD's and 16 int's. Those are McCoy numbers. Besides Moore would come cheaper and without costing a draft pick. SF has too much invested in Smith to let him just walk.

Vasquez is a plug-in and play OG who knows the Turner offense.
Keller is a replacemnet for Watson and averages 50 catches per year.
Barwin is 6'3" 260+ and Groves is the same. Either one or both would be a major upgrade.
Johnson is a FS who played for Horton the last 2 years. Landry is a FS who plays like a SS.

The draft

#6 Millner CB Alabama- Solid all around CB who's not afraid to help support against the run.
#68 Jenkins OLB Flordia St- Speed of the edge
#101 Tyler Bray Tennessee- Not my pick but if he's there in the 4th, Haslam jumps. Has the tools, needs work, and lots of it. Little doubt they draft a QB somewhere.
#132 Uzzi OG Georgia Tech- Those boys at tech can run block, this guys a road grader.
#165 Graham RB Pittsburgh- Nice compliment to the power of TRich.
#196 Sturgis PK Flordia- He's not Phil Dawson but he's made 85% of his FG's the last 2 years.

Having Landry on the backend pair with Ward and Millner who is very much like Haden would make a nice secondary. Barwin and/or Groves at OLB along with Jenkins plus our holdovers would make for a solid LBing corps.

Moore would be decent competition for Weeden at QB and be a solid backup. Vasquez at one guard spot with Lavuao, Pinky, Greco and Uzzi competing for the other really makes the o-line a strenght.

Keller at TE with Gordon and Little out wide and Cooper/Benjami in the slot and Weeden at the controls of a vertical passing/power running offense would be sweet. Wouldn't mind a vetrean WR in there somewhere. Edelman is a FA and a Welker clone. We'd really have a chance to make some noise.

Will we sign 5 FA's? Doubt it. But only Vasquez and Landry would cost decent money. The rest could be had at reasonable contracts. And with 45 million under the cap and having to spend 89% of it, it's got to go somewhere.

Well that's my list. Tear it apart if you must, just have the stones to put one up of your own.

SD:

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Posted: 2/9/2013 12:22 PM

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Gameface64 wrote: Keller can't stay healthy.

LaRon Landry is a FS who plays like a SS, but unfortunately he covers like a SS. In a passing league, we should sign a true FS. Landry is a hard hard hitter though. Don't know the other guy.

Moore's allright, but if Weeden fails, he's just a stop gap, not a long term solution. I've made my QB case in other threads, its too important to keep trying half ass fixes. Go large or sit home again. Simple math; the Seahawks spent on Matt Flynn but also drafted Wilson. They doubled their chances of success. We have the resources to invest.

SD:

Be specific Amigo , tell me who that someone might be , who represents a true upgrade short term or long term in this draft  or free agency .

I know that in the land of the blind the one eyed man is King , but gimme the fool with both eyes and twenty  twenty peepers which represents more than that ,Puhleeeze .

Kiper McShay and others have folowed suit , and have opinied as I did a month ago , there isn't a single QB worth a first round pick , even though we all know two or three will be picked by desperate teams grasping for the same threads  to pull out from their QB hole .

The value is a sleeper later IMO as there maynot be a single QB in this draft who develops past a career backup , which includes Barkley a once touted star or geno Smith who started out so promising .

I ain't mad at ya , but you just haven't made the case where I can sign off which deviates from my previous position to  challenge Weeds with a Moore or DA and draft a later prospect if you find a better arm than our Duke backup .

Myself , gimme the Florida kid , after we trade down in the first and add another draft pick to minimize even that risk.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 12:58 PM

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SD,

I'm no scout or professional evaluator. Don't follow college ball that closely. But I can't think of too many complete drafts that didn't produce at least one good QB. And Smith and Flynn may be out there.

There are no guarantees at any level. But the Browns are in a good spot to roll the dice. They have a ton of cap space if they want to pursue a free agent QB, and they have good draft position if they want to invest in the QB position there, low round or high. If they go the latter route, they can use the FA dollars to fill in a position that they might have drafted for instead of QB. Tons of flexibility.

I think our goals are aligned, but the methods and timing different. Surprised you don't support, if anyone has called for full investment in QB its you. There's talent out there somewhere, we just need to quit dicking around and start pulling the trigger. And to keep pulling it until we hit something.

Even if the pickings are slim, this team needs to start shopping and hope for the best. Even if we fail, we've got the deep pockets to reload and try again next year. Waiting only reduces our chances of finding what we need and getting good.

Go all out for a QB and don't worry so much about failing. It's not like we might mess up our great chemistry and stellar record of success.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 2:13 PM

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Gameface64 wrote: SD,

I'm no scout or professional evaluator. Don't follow college ball that closely. But I can't think of too many complete drafts that didn't produce at least one good QB. And Smith and Flynn may be out there.

There are no guarantees at any level. But the Browns are in a good spot to roll the dice. They have a ton of cap space if they want to pursue a free agent QB, and they have good draft position if they want to invest in the QB position there, low round or high. If they go the latter route, they can use the FA dollars to fill in a position that they might have drafted for instead of QB. Tons of flexibility.

I think our goals are aligned, but the methods and timing different. Surprised you don't support, if anyone has called for full investment in QB its you. There's talent out there somewhere, we just need to quit dicking around and start pulling the trigger. And to keep pulling it until we hit something.

Even if the pickings are slim, this team needs to start shopping and hope for the best. Even if we fail, we've got the deep pockets to reload and try again next year. Waiting only reduces our chances of finding what we need and getting good.

Go all out for a QB and don't worry so much about failing. It's not like we might mess up our great chemistry and stellar record of success.
SD:

I could  sign on to your stance so long as we'd continued  trotting out weak sisters of the poor like Calf humper McCoy  or the Lady Quinns of the World , backups to backups , with no real talent other than lockerroom cancers and caricature cartoon figures epitomizing walking talking little deeks without the balls or talent to be studs , just mouthy worthless ........ .

In Weeds , we have undiscovered Country , too soon to write off the region as thoroughly explored and found to be deplete of resources, and in Thadeus Lewis we have a three year study worth another training camp look .

In Norv Turner we have a premiere resource  to train and evaluate  and develop the QB position , and a proven HC in Chud who developed a scatterbrained hump like DA  into the limelight , while transforming  Cam Newton into a prolific QB threat  despite all the caterwauling by the so called ex spurts such a thing couldn't be done via a one read system QB .

So it is of my opinion , that between the two , that a much truer representative picture will emerge of Brandon Weedens talent , one which is more conduscive to the prospect we thought we drafted as these two men combined will devise and develop an offense more conducive to the talent he brings to the table .

Further I like the chemistry which developed late with the receiving corp as both Josh and Little came on late with Weeds finding a rhythm despite Shurms erratic schizo unfathomable  play calling, I see no reason to throw that away out of hand for a picture of greener grass on the other side of the fence .

Finally and foremost , the biggest problem as I see it , is there is not an immediate identifiable solution in this draft or free agency which upgrades the position , beyond the potential performance of a returning signal caller with immense talent to throw the pill who will be returning under the auspices of better coaching in a system theoretically projected to magnify and exploit his talents.

I'd rather utilize the talent at hand augment it thru the draft and or free agency and leave myself the option and resources to revisit 2014 , when more palatable talent presents itself as legitimate options should we be in need of or desire change .

In a defensive draft laden with what we need to build our front seven and replenish the secondary , it would border on criminal negligence to husband resources on second tier QB talent  just to scratch an itch , or make a self aggrandizing splash to mollify the masses with unproductive use of precious  draft Cheddar which is sorely needed elsewhere.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 4:37 PM

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Gameface64 wrote: Keller can't stay healthy.

LaRon Landry is a FS who plays like a SS, but unfortunately he covers like a SS. In a passing league, we should sign a true FS. Landry is a hard hard hitter though. Don't know the other guy.

Moore's allright, but if Weeden fails, he's just a stop gap, not a long term solution. I've made my QB case in other threads, its too important to keep trying half ass fixes. Go large or sit home again. Simple math; the Seahawks spent on Matt Flynn but also drafted Wilson. They doubled their chances of success. We have the resources to invest.

Wow Game, must have caught you on a bad day.

I realize that list isn't perfect and it could use some tweaking. But who would you have instead?

Yeah Keller's been knocked around some, but who hasn't? Cook from the Titans would work just as well and it's not as if Watson has been an iron man.

If I had my pick of anyone at FS it would be Byrd. But everyone will be after him and I was trying to be realistic with the my list

Sure Moore would be a stop gap, but then who wouldn't? Just b/c you want better doesn't mean there is better available. And really, who's out there that gives the team a better chance of winning this year than Weeden? No one that I can tell.

There's no one more sick of the losing than I am. But you just can't bring in just anyone to play QB and start winning. There will always be growing pains no matter who we bring in. It's just part of it. Besides, I'm fully convinced Weeds can get it done in a vertical passing attack. Whether LomBanner thinks so remains to be seen.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 5:30 PM

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Sorry, didn't mean to be dismissive. Too much NY snow to shovel today.

And being in the NY area, I know way too much about the Jets and Giants.

Keller was really good three years ago, but he's on the injury train downhill.

Landry's a really good player, just not sure he's a compliment to Ward. Just feeling we need a ballhawk safety who can bust on deep passes.

My POV on QBs has evolved to a pretty militant place. I wish Weeden had shown more last year, doesn't mean I'm writing him off. Just believe the team should explore every avenue to better QB play. Got to look under every rock, but look for an elite player, and stop thinking half measures will do.

Good OP, never mind my nit picking.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 7:05 PM

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FWIW I have high hopes for a Cameron with a coach the understands a TE belongs down the field & not as a 3rd OT. Keller is insurance.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 9:51 AM

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I do too, but Cameron is still a long shot to be a meaningful NFL TE. He will certainly get a chance. They need a vet and a draft pick at the position. Watson is underrated. He can still play at a high level as a receiver and he can block. His concussions are a concern. The fact that he dismisses them  is even more more a concern (for the man and his family). But Watson can ball. He makes tough play after tough play. He was also a team leader.

Nasdaq wrote: FWIW I have high hopes for a Cameron with a coach the understands a TE belongs down the field & not as a 3rd OT. Keller is insurance.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 1:25 PM

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Air Al wrote: I do too, but Cameron is still a long shot to be a meaningful NFL TE.

Iguess I'd be interested to know what you mean by "long shot".

JC shows repetedly that he seperates, he gets open, he catches the ball; often in open space, and what i like the best, he can run after the catch.  I really wonder how good of a run blocker a TE has to be to be a valid NFL TE. Can you be adaquate to chip a DE or shield a LBer instead of detroying him??
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Posted: 2/11/2013 5:11 PM

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Might want to think harder about Millner as definately being The Guy:


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/...04198--nfl.html

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Posted: 2/11/2013 6:35 PM

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I think SD and a few others were asking for specificity in the search for a developmental QB.  Interesting thoughts and discussion primer.  There are three I think may be worth a 3rd round, definitely a 4th.

http://bleacherreport.com/arti...fl-draft/page/3

Mike Glennon did really well in the Senior Bowl and will likely not make it out of the 2nd round but if he does, he is worthy.

Landry Jones is the same story.

E. J. Manuel has all the physical tools and will be there in the 4th if we go OLB or CB with our picks as they stand. 

Any of the above will reward us if coached up I think.  If we go the FA route, DA or Jason Campbell will likely be brought in.  DA is the risk/reward guy who already knows the offense and Campbell the solid vet.  Tavaris Jackson is interesting...
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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:21 PM

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Game is in NY. Doesn't have a high regard for Keller.  See Keller as Game does. Using this lead in for I have a hard time wrapping my head around the love for Watson. I get he is the best TE seen in Cleveland for a long time. BUT, he was the third TE on the Pats. He was let go. He never met expectation. Expectations are high for a guy who at the combine exceeds Kellen Winslow, comes to a perrenial winner and fails to perfdrm as a first round pick.

Watson is not 30. He has multiple concussions. Is a high risk player. Gets raves reviews (imo) only because he is a big fish in a small pond. Giving him his due, aren't there a dozen TEs who outperform him and on championship teams?

I like Watson. I just do not see him as a starting TE and many teams start two, on a championship team. He doesn't make the Patriots roster and BB like to have three TEs. So, I don't see the need to pay a high price for Watson. Veteran minimum or a very CAP friendly contract and I want him back. Payday?  Haven't we had enough of those over-the-hill payday guys?
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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:03 PM

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By meaningful, let's say 60 catches 800 yds. By long shot let's say, 33% chance he gets to that level. I do like him and he's shown some promise, but he's very inexperienced and there are so many ways a career gets derailed. The Browns would be much better off re-signing Watson than counting on Cameron to be the #1 this quickly. This is a TE friendly offense in a TE happy league. We might need to sign a vet and draft one even if Cameron surges this year.


Nasdaq wrote:
Air Al wrote: I do too, but Cameron is still a long shot to be a meaningful NFL TE.

Iguess I'd be interested to know what you mean by "long shot".

JC shows repetedly that he seperates, he gets open, he catches the ball; often in open space, and what i like the best, he can run after the catch.  I really wonder how good of a run blocker a TE has to be to be a valid NFL TE. Can you be adaquate to chip a DE or shield a LBer instead of detroying him??
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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:21 PM

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poppa9601 wrote: There's been a lot of discussion as to how active the Browns will be in FAcy and what kind of FA's the team might bring in. So I thought I would compile a list for your discussion/destruction as to who I think would be solid FA signings and possible draft picks.

FA's
Matt Moore QB Miami
Vasquez OG SD
Keller TE NYJ
Barwin LB Hou/Groves LB SD
Johnson FS AZ/Landry FS NYJ

A lot of talk about Alex Smith and the Browns, and Smith did play 1 year with Norv as his OC. But in that year Smith completed 58% of his passes for 2890yds with 16 TD's and 16 int's. Those are McCoy numbers. Besides Moore would come cheaper and without costing a draft pick. SF has too much invested in Smith to let him just walk.

Vasquez is a plug-in and play OG who knows the Turner offense.
Keller is a replacemnet for Watson and averages 50 catches per year.
Barwin is 6'3" 260+ and Groves is the same. Either one or both would be a major upgrade.
Johnson is a FS who played for Horton the last 2 years. Landry is a FS who plays like a SS.

The draft

#6 Millner CB Alabama- Solid all around CB who's not afraid to help support against the run.
#68 Jenkins OLB Flordia St- Speed of the edge
#101 Tyler Bray Tennessee- Not my pick but if he's there in the 4th, Haslam jumps. Has the tools, needs work, and lots of it. Little doubt they draft a QB somewhere.
#132 Uzzi OG Georgia Tech- Those boys at tech can run block, this guys a road grader.
#165 Graham RB Pittsburgh- Nice compliment to the power of TRich.
#196 Sturgis PK Flordia- He's not Phil Dawson but he's made 85% of his FG's the last 2 years.

Having Landry on the backend pair with Ward and Millner who is very much like Haden would make a nice secondary. Barwin and/or Groves at OLB along with Jenkins plus our holdovers would make for a solid LBing corps.

Moore would be decent competition for Weeden at QB and be a solid backup. Vasquez at one guard spot with Lavuao, Pinky, Greco and Uzzi competing for the other really makes the o-line a strenght.

Keller at TE with Gordon and Little out wide and Cooper/Benjami in the slot and Weeden at the controls of a vertical passing/power running offense would be sweet. Wouldn't mind a vetrean WR in there somewhere. Edelman is a FA and a Welker clone. We'd really have a chance to make some noise.

Will we sign 5 FA's? Doubt it. But only Vasquez and Landry would cost decent money. The rest could be had at reasonable contracts. And with 45 million under the cap and having to spend 89% of it, it's got to go somewhere.

Well that's my list. Tear it apart if you must, just have the stones to put one up of your own.
Matt Moore - Since you think this would be a solid signing I assume you're good with Weeden starting again?
Moore looks like a good teammate but he's strictly a back up-i'm not sure there would be much competition there.
His skillset is probably less then McCoy's.

Vasquez is not a great OG.
He's simply a decent starter who's better in the pass game then run game.
If we had a great big hole at OG, he'd be a solid signing, otherwise....puzzzzt

And I think our Oline situation is actually pretty good.
Greco stepped in and played much better then Pinkston, who still may be back.

Keller would be an ok signing. Before last season, he was a decent rec TE.
I think he's slightly better then Chud's former top TE, Greg Olsen, when healthy.
But there's a bunch of talented TE's potentially available in FA.
Delanie Walker, Martellus Bennett, Fred Davis, Jermichael Finley, Jared Cook.
Given the prominence of the position in the new offense, I think opening up some cash to a talented TE makes sense.

Barwin/Groves are decent depth at a position where it's needed.
Barwin might be pricey though. I'd add Vic Butler in there too.

Rashad Johnson is pretty terrible.
I'd hope we steer clear. Landry is intriguing. He played pretty well coming back from serious injury. He is more of a SS but I wouldn't complain. There's also a bunch of others potentially up for FA. Dashon Goldson, William Moore, Kenny Phillips, Louis Delmas.

Alex Smith - You're right, SF has too much invested...that's why they'll cut him loose.
But I want no more part of him in Clev as well. He's a marginal QB and only creates a controversy here.

Dee Milliner - The problem with going CB at #6 is it ignores our primary need..pass rusher. It's an even greater need now with the transition.
Is Milliner that much more talented then whatever pass rusher is available there?
Your FA list also left out a good bunch of pretty solid CBs potentially available in FA.

Keenan Lewis - Playing like a pro bowl CB until getting injured late in the season.
Drafted when Horton was in Pitt and just coming into his prime.
Steelers actually would be foolish to let him go but reportedly they'll let all their FAs test the open market.

Greg Toler/ARI, Brent Grimes/ATL, Cary Williams/BAL, Sean Smith/MIA, DRC/PHI, Antone Cason/SD, Bradley Fletcher/STL. All would be upgrades across from Haden.

Jenkins in the 3rd is as good as any, I guess.
But there is a history of underperforming pass rushers out of FSU of late.
I like all your other choices.

I'll channel some Lombardi and project what I see as solid moves:

First and foremost, I'll think long and hard about trading for Ryan Mallett.
What complicates a trade for him is that i'm missing a 13' 2nd round pick and BB wants more picks in this draft.
If I don't go that route, i'll need to find a QB that has special upside.
i've already pretty much written off Weeden.
My hope is that he shows marked improvement in his 2nd year and becomes a good bridge for the next guy, and gives me something of value to bargain with.
I'll keep a shred of hope for him though, as well.

At safety, I really like the potential of DB Johnson Bademosi.
We'll groom him for FS or the nickel DB. (the position i think is almost as important as ILB.) Gipson might also be a keeper as a depth guy. so...

FA

Keenan Lewis CB PITT
Danario Alexander WR SD
Fred Davis TE WAS
Victor Butler OLB DALL
Dominic Alford OL CAR ;
Jordan Norwood WR CLE
Phil Dawson K CLE


Draft

1. Dion Jordan OLB Oregon
2. E.J. Manuel QB FSU
3. Duke Williams FS Nevada
4. Bruce Taylor ILB Virgina Tech
5. Quinn Sharp P Okie State
6. Chris Thompson RB FSU
aka: BrownLeader

Last edited 2/11/2013 10:31 PM by JH360
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