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Re: Modell misses Hall of Fame vote again

  • redright
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Posted: 2/11/2013 7:42 PM

Re: Modell misses Hall of Fame vote again 


Peter,

Two feet of Cleveland in my back yard and power returned today, so I am a little late in responding.

Not concerned about who is the bigger slime ball, neither owner is hail fellow well met. The difference is in the cities. I am not nor have I ever been a resident of Ohio or Maryland.  I don't have a bias in this view of the cities.  Here is the difference.

Cleveland gave Modell a stadium for one dollar and a promise to build a new stadium in 20 years. Twenty years as they had to build a basket ball arena, a baseball park, science museum, rock and roll hall of fame, etc. Fine says Modell and I will have the Browns play all of their games at the Muni until the new stadium can be built on the adjoining parking lot. In year 17, Modell breaks his lease and bolts to Baltimore. The ONLY owner in the NFL to not honor his comittments to a city. 

Please don't think I am going to cry a river over Baltimore not getting a team for  years. The only reason Cleveland got team in three  years, they had the NFL over a barrel...no team..no colors, then the Baltimore Browns can play the next three in the empty mistake by the lake in Cleveland Ohio.

OK, You take some comfort in Irsay being a Chi-town carpet bagger. Modell was a NYC carpetbagger. Irsay had no ties to the community??? Hello""" maybe the town farthers should have a clue. If cities are begging for franchises and throwing money at an owner without ties to the community, perhaps arrogance and high handed treatment is not the way to go. Baltimore and Maryland gave the Colts short-shrift. Irsay did nothing more than you or I or any sane person would do... go to where you are wanted. How wanted? Indiana and Indianapolis threw millions at him to come. Baltimore and MD gave Irsay the finger and he returned the same.  Can you say comeuppance?

Can you find any outreach, inducement, willingness of the City of Baltimore to make the retention of the Colts attractive?  I know of none. Never heard of any effort on behalf of the people or city to spend millions to keep the Colts in Baltimore. Cleveland had the construction, bond for building the stadium, on the ballot when Art left.

And just in case you think I am unaware of the difficulties a community has in building a stadium or retaining a franchise in a community, Boston had a terrible time and failed in building stadiums or arenas for the Red Sox, Bruins, Celtics and Patriots. The Red Sox got a re-make, the Celtics and Bruins gotg a new arena, the Patriots got a new stadium half-way between Boston and Providence.

Please go to square one. Review the happenings that forced the move out of Baltimore. I gave you a starting point. With a little research, you will discover how shabbily the City of Baltimore treated the NFL and Irsay and how disingenuous the politicians have been.

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Posted: 3/5/2013 8:49 PM

Re: Modell misses Hall of Fame vote again 


"Please go to square one. Review the happenings that forced the move out of Baltimore. I gave you a starting point. With a little research, you will discover how shabbily the City of Baltimore treated the NFL and Irsay and how disingenuous the politicians have been."

-- Hey, the Rats just got handed- I mean won- a Super Bowl! Don't confuse the argument with facts.

This sort of debate just underscores to me how moneyed fools should be taken out of the ownership equation and communities that actually support and pay for a team should have control. They should take a "less is more" approach and aim to have a good team at a reasonable price. Overpaid prima donnas, corporations and faceless bureaucratics need not apply.

That's a possible situation that can only come about if things as they are really change.
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