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What are SFO's odds?

Posted: 1/20/2013 11:02 PM

What are SFO's odds? 


I know it is early.
Balt beat a finesse defense in the AFC with passing.

Can they beat a rugged NFC team molded in the Giants/Cowboys/Skins? (Ironically, said team is the 49ers, traditionally NOT known for being a rugged NFC Beast powerhouse).

Balt's O reminds me of a Marchibroda/Moore/Polian Bills team--

Kelly-Flacco

Thurminator-Rice
McKeller/Metzelaars-Pitta/Dickson
Reed-Smith
Lofton-Boldin (strong vet on 2nd team)

Beebe-Jones

Rats have McKinnie at LT and Oher at RT, Birk at C; the Bills had Will Wolford, Kent Hull and Howard Ballard, respectively at LT, C and RT. Very good OLs for both teams.

Defensively, they are a hybrid, so not a 3-4 like the Bills ran, but fast and aggressive. They had Mark Kelso and Shane Conlan and Bennett; the Rats have Ed Reed and Ray Lewis and Suggs.

49ers D is on another level vs. NE, but their O isn't as good. Gore, meet Lewis.

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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:18 AM

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I believe the initial line is in favor of Baltimore, say 5 points.

SF game plan was interesting.  We knew that SF's QB could run, but, they did not have him run.  It did open the running game for other players.

Looking at Baltimore's results against Indianapolis and New England, maybe the declining of the AFC North is only a rumor not a fact.

It seemed that there were better games between AFC North teams than against these playoff teams.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:24 AM

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Lines exist to drive betting dollars & protect the house. So IDK from them.

What I do know is that flag football be damned, the two most balanced teams are playing for all the marbles.

The ones who put talented but not drafted as elite QBs in great positions to succeed not rushed them as saviors. The ones that can still run the ball. The ones with D back 7s worth a damn.

Meanwhile, the so called elite QBs are reduced to cruises, the links, & the studios. And porking thrie Brazillan super model wives, so that's not a bad consolation prize.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:36 AM

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Ram - I believe the initial line is in favor of Baltimore, say 5 points


- 49er's by 4.5 is what I read this morning.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:48 AM

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poppa9601 wrote: Ram - I believe the initial line is in favor of Baltimore, say 5 points


- 49er's by 4.5 is what I read this morning.
I guessed 49'ers - 5 last night.

This morning, I'm a half point off.  I'd give the points no problem.

If the 49'ers win they are 6-0 in the Super Bowl and now Pitt has company in the 6 club.  I'd like that.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 11:31 AM

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--- kosartoslaughter wrote:

I know it is early.
Balt beat a finesse defense in the AFC with passing.

Can they beat a rugged NFC team molded in the Giants/Cowboys/Skins? (Ironically, said team is the 49ers, traditionally NOT known for being a rugged NFC Beast powerhouse).

Balt's O reminds me of a Marchibroda/Moore/Polian Bills team--

Kelly-Flacco

Thurminator-Rice
McKeller/Metzelaars-Pitta/Dickson
Reed-Smith
Lofton-Boldin (strong vet on 2nd team)

Beebe-Jones

Rats have McKinnie at LT and Oher at RT, Birk at C; the Bills had Will Wolford, Kent Hull and Howard Ballard, respectively at LT, C and RT. Very good OLs for both teams.



Defensively, they are a hybrid, so not a 3-4 like the Bills ran, but fast and aggressive. They had Mark Kelso and Shane Conlan and Bennett; the Rats have Ed Reed and Ray Lewis and Suggs.

49ers D is on another level vs. NE, but their O isn't as good. Gore, meet Lewis.



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They beat? Many saw it as the Pats beat themselves with drops and sloppy play. I watched the game with a bunch rooting for the Ravens. I wanted a double digit Pats win and collapse of the Ravens. By half time I was sure the Pats were going to lose. They were that bad. Many 3 rd and 2 were not converted The only good play in the first half was the Ravens drive. Ravens won fair and square, but the Pats offense stunk.

S F favored 4.5 to 5.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 12:02 PM

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Ravens won fair and square, but the Pats offense stunk.  

Well the offense stunk due to the defense of the Ravens.  Drops and sloppy play was not the reason they got BEAT.

Where is that Ravens troll anyways?  The one that's always showing up here, making up dumb excuses for Spygate and their patsy schedule?
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Posted: 1/21/2013 12:38 PM

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"I know it is early.
Balt beat a finesse defense in the AFC with passing."

-- 2 comments that have limited relevance :

- The Harbaugh parents, I understand, spent a portion of their "honeymoon" watching the Browns and the Giants at the old Cleveland stadium. So the Browns are in this SB. Sort of. Yippee.

- BB hasn't won an SB since Spygate. That is a fact that can be interpreted however one wants to. 
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Posted: 1/21/2013 3:07 PM

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HeadHole wrote: "I know it is early.
Balt beat a finesse defense in the AFC with passing."

-- 2 comments that have limited relevance :

- The Harbaugh parents, I understand, spent a portion of their "honeymoon" watching the Browns and the Giants at the old Cleveland stadium. So the Browns are in this SB. Sort of. Yippee.

- BB hasn't won an SB since Spygate. That is a fact that can be interpreted however one wants to. 
Link? Giants played here in '91 and '94 and lost both games in tight contests. First game was Ray Handley and the next game was Dan Reeves I think. Perkins and Parcells had moved on.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 3:49 PM

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"Link?"

-- Let's see:

Link? I don't have no link. I don't need no stinkin' link!

Or:

No thanks, I'm really not hungry.

Or:

This was said/spoken on a TV show talking about how the Harbaugh boys come from a football family. No links were verbally provided at that time. Sorry.

Are we sure that the Browns and Giants never ever played each other in Cleveland before '91? Not impossible, but I find it less than probable considering their histories.

In fact, a quick perusal of their records seems to indicate they first played in Cleveland in 1950. So....

Edit- Okay, this time- this one time- I will grasp the crutch of a "link" and lay it on you. Baby.

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_22371584/harb augh-parents-will-be-watching-sons-from-living

"The Harbaughs, who have been married for 51 years, have always had a good game plan. (They spent their honeymoon attending a Giants-Browns game at Cleveland Municipal
Stadium.)"

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Posted: 1/21/2013 5:01 PM

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SFO's odds of winning - Zero.  Zip.  Nada.  Zilch.

The striped shirts give the game to the Ravens to honor Ray Ray and Art.  Per the NFL owners, of course.  Not that I'm inferring the game will be fixed; I'm just about guaranteeing it will be.

I may just have to give up football altogether.  This game will make the Steelers / Seahawks Super Bowl game look legitimate.

This will be an opportunity for the Modell into the HOF propaganda machine to get it's momentum.  For that reason alone, I won't be watching the game or be in the slightest bit interested in it.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 5:38 PM

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YankeeBigDog wrote: SFO's odds of winning - Zero.  Zip.  Nada.  Zilch.

The striped shirts give the game to the Ravens to honor Ray Ray and Art.  Per the NFL owners, of course.  Not that I'm inferring the game will be fixed; I'm just about guaranteeing it will be.

I may just have to give up football altogether.  This game will make the Steelers / Seahawks Super Bowl game look legitimate.

This will be an opportunity for the Modell into the HOF propaganda machine to get it's momentum.  For that reason alone, I won't be watching the game or be in the slightest bit interested in it.
Yep....^^^^

I refuse to watch this game

Just like they gave one to Bettis, this one goes to the biggest pile of steaming excrement in the NFL

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Posted: 1/21/2013 6:43 PM

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YankeeBigDog wrote: SFO's odds of winning - Zero.  Zip.  Nada.  Zilch.

The striped shirts give the game to the Ravens to honor Ray Ray and Art.  Per the NFL owners, of course.  Not that I'm inferring the game will be fixed; I'm just about guaranteeing it will be.

I may just have to give up football altogether.  This game will make the Steelers / Seahawks Super Bowl game look legitimate.

This will be an opportunity for the Modell into the HOF propaganda machine to get it's momentum.  For that reason alone, I won't be watching the game or be in the slightest bit interested in it.

You knew it was all over in Denver...Balt beating Indy at home is reasonable, but the Denver fiasco was the big hump, and now it's smooth sailing.

Only chance is the 49ers defense and those Ted Johnsesque linebackers.

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Posted: 1/21/2013 7:05 PM

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Not sure if you are asking this question literally KOS, but the current markets say:

49ers:  62.5%
Ravens:  37.5%

When you take out the juice.

That's based on best available prices (on Oddschecker) of:
49ers:  $1 wagered wins $0.57
and
Ravens:  $1 wagered earns $1.65

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Posted: 1/21/2013 7:15 PM

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I'm gonna try and hold onto my naivete till halftime but if I see Sehawks deux I'm gonna be pissed.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 7:29 PM

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Filmstudy wrote:

Not sure if you are asking this question literally KOS, but the current markets say:

49ers:  62.5%
Ravens:  37.5%

When you take out the juice.

That's based on best available prices (on Oddschecker) of:
49ers:  $1 wagered wins $0.57
and
Ravens:  $1 wagered earns $1.65

Really? I think that means the Rats will win again. I figured a push.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 8:36 AM

No personal attacks on the forum. 



HeadHole wrote: "Link?"

-- Let's see:

Link? I don't have no link. I don't need no stinkin' link!

Or:

No thanks, I'm really not hungry.

Or:

This was said/spoken on a TV show talking about how the Harbaugh boys come from a football family. No links were verbally provided at that time. Sorry.

Are we sure that the Browns and Giants never ever played each other in Cleveland before '91? Not impossible, but I find it less than probable considering their histories.

In fact, a quick perusal of their records seems to indicate they first played in Cleveland in 1950. So....

Edit- Okay, this time- this one time- I will grasp the crutch of a "link" and lay it on you. Baby.

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_22371584/harb augh-parents-will-be-watching-sons-from-living

"The Harbaughs, who have been married for 51 years, have always had a good game plan. (They spent their honeymoon attending a Giants-Browns game at Cleveland Municipal
Stadium.)"

Thanks for the link, but no personal attacks!

Last edited 1/22/2013 8:37 AM by kosartoslaughter

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Posted: 1/22/2013 10:30 AM

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"Thanks for the link, but no personal attacks!"

-- You are welcome.

Link requests/demands are funny things.

Some requests for a link appear to be a belief that the statement made is questionable at best and any information supplied will be used to suit whatever agenda the requester has as he undercuts the original statement. To that extent, a request for a link can be seen as a "personal attack". 

Some requests for a link are even-handed and merely an honest attempt to gather information so it can be evaluated and objectively judged. That contains no "personal attack" at that level.

So I tend to be suspicious of any link request during the course of any conversation. But all things are dependent on their context and there are, in fact, times when additional information can serve the greater good and link requests are not merely a sign of intellectual laziness or devious intentions.

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Posted: 1/22/2013 6:39 PM

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Lumpy wrote: Ravens won fair and square, but the Pats offense stunk.  

Well the offense stunk due to the defense of the Ravens.  Drops and sloppy play was not the reason they got BEAT.

Where is that Ravens troll anyways?  The one that's always showing up here, making up dumb excuses for Spygate and their patsy schedule?
cool

THE Ravens beat the Pats at their own game. The pats won the SB  by beating on and up and everywhich way on the Rams. Later the Pats did the same to the Colts, eliminating them and going on to another SB. Last Sunday the Ravens beat up the Pats receivers. The refs threw the book away and let them play.Without Gronk and another tough guy they were doomed.

That is the way I saw the game and am confident it is a correct view having listened to Blt radio on the way home today and further, I listened to Eric Mangini on Mike and Mike say the Pats were unfairly  treated by the refs, but the refs called it the same for both sides.  5 yard chuck???hold??? what?? not being called today. (nice that Eric agrees with me)biggrin

So Lumpy you are spot on. It was the rough defense that won the game. No complaints from me and thee should be none from Pats fans. They got what they gave out in prior games. This time they were left short in the muscle department and when their tough guy DB went down, Anquan Boldin had his way out muscleing the smaller less physical patriot DBs.

Now San Fran is in trouble. they have no pass rush. Flacco will pick them apart. The ravens WRs can play hard ball, can Smith and Jones play with the big boys? Doubt it, if the refs let the game be played as the ravens/pats game.

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Posted: 1/22/2013 6:56 PM

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Lumpy,

 The one that's always showing up here, making up dumb excuses for Spygate and their patsy schedule

rr
Listened to Shaughnesy on MIke Francesa. There to pump the book on Francona, but started on the game. One of Dan's points was the Pats have six lay up games every year...jets, dolphins, bills. Given a bye they get a weak sister. Then they play a tough team and is it close game or at least one in which the match-ups don't favor them. The ravens play in the AFCN and are accustomed to a tougher brand of ball.  

rr  IMO, most defenses play at 90% during the season. In the playoffs they bring their best. I could be wrong, but it allows me to think a stout defense in needed in the playoffs and teams that first time meet a tough defense are at a disadvantage. The old iron sharpens iron..  While the Pats are the tough guys in the AFCE, it is the AFCE.

aside... I do think I will like our new DC.  Bring it...
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