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Re: So let's reset on Haslam.

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Posted: 1/18/2013 2:30 PM

Re: So let's reset on Haslam. 



0tter wrote:
Gary Reents wrote:
I've moved on to utter despair.  Its like knowing an asteroid is about to hit the earth and destroy it in 2 days. All you can do is laugh at fate and take it like a man...because screaming and crying is no way to meet your doom.

It's not that bad.  Unlike an asteroid even a poorly run organization can come up smelling like roses with a good head coach and a good QB.  Saints, St. Louis, Zona, etc.  Maybe this asteroid turns out to be pretty small and made out of gold, misses your house, hits your back yard, and now you're rich, bitch.

Or, it could really be an alien spaceship full of desperately horny women that all look like Angelina Jolie and they have a serious attraction to 56 year old 5'8" guys that live in Tipp City Ohio named Gary.

Yeah. I like those odds.

But seriously, it will probably only be women who look like Jessica Alba

But to really be serious, I fully understand that utter incompetence in the front office doesn't mean a winning team might not show up against all odds. Its just not likely to continue because stupid is as stupid does.

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Posted: 1/18/2013 5:11 PM

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Look at this way.  We've saved ourselves the grief that comes with the promise of something good... only to give way to the agonizingly slow realization that this... person... just... isn't... working... out.

People were generally encouraged by the promise that was embodied in the hiring of a Butch Davis or a Phil Savage, or a Romeo Crennel (okay, maybe not THAT encouraged) or a Mike Holmgren.  And slowly but surely, people saw it didn't work out.  And as the months passed, more of the optimistic took off their rose colored glasses and joined the league ot the disenchanted.  

Now we're starting out with expectations that could limbo under a possum's belly after dinner. 

They have nowhere to go but up, right?

Yikes, it's a good thing I didn't post this yesterday, BEFORE Mike Lombardi.

The Indian mystics would tell you that if you lower your wants and desires to virtually nothing, then ANYthing that comes your way is gravy.  Or, as I referenced way back, it's like the Siege of Stalingrad.  A horse caught shrapnel in the street, and now there's free horse meat for the first 30 people who can get to it with a good knife.  Yahoo!  And some will be lying in a burned out basement with full stomachs.  "Ummm, horse meat. I am LIVIN' LARGE!! 

Or as my father used to say after and especially good dinner.  He'd light up a cigar and say "I wonder what the poor people are doing?"

Besides, if the asteroid arrived in two days, it's time to go on a bender.  Feel free to drive 70 in reverse in a stolen Cadillac convertible.  We'll never pass this way again, so live it up!

And if the asteroid really is a spaceship, the one full of Jessica Albas will land in California.  The one landing in Ohio will be full of thousands of creatures who resemble Mike Lombardi coming to our doors and looking to sell us all term life insurance.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 5:20 PM

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Aardvark wrote: Look at this way.  We've saved ourselves the grief that comes with the promise of something good... only to give way to the agonizingly slow realization that this... person... just... isn't... working... out.

People were generally encouraged by the promise that was embodied in the hiring of a Butch Davis or a Phil Savage, or a Romeo Crennel (okay, maybe not THAT encouraged) or a Mike Holmgren.  And slowly but surely, people saw it didn't work out.  And as the months passed, more of the optimistic took off their rose colored glasses and joined the league ot the disenchanted.  

Now we're starting out with expectations that could limbo under a possum's belly after dinner. 

They have nowhere to go but up, right?

Yikes, it's a good thing I didn't post this yesterday, BEFORE Mike Lombardi.

The Indian mystics would tell you that if you lower your wants and desires to virtually nothing, then ANYthing that comes your way is gravy.  Or, as I referenced way back, it's like the Siege of Stalingrad.  A horse caught shrapnel in the street, and now there's free horse meat for the first 30 people who can get to it with a good knife.  Yahoo!  And some will be lying in a burned out basement with full stomachs.  "Ummm, horse meat. I am LIVIN' LARGE!! 

Or as my father used to say after and especially good dinner.  He'd light up a cigar and say "I wonder what the poor people are doing?"

Besides, if the asteroid arrived in two days, it's time to go on a bender.  Feel free to drive 70 in reverse in a stolen Cadillac convertible.  We'll never pass this way again, so live it up!

And if the asteroid really is a spaceship, the one full of Jessica Albas will land in California.  The one landing in Ohio will be full of thousands of creatures who resemble Mike Lombardi coming to our doors and looking to sell us all term life insurance.
Yes. One of my sayings is "I espouse pessimism as a way of life. That way you are only pleasantly surprised."

Unfortunately, I often slip up and hope. I'm weak.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 8:57 PM

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Unfortunately, I often slip up and hope. I'm weak.

I have a feeling this won't be one of those times you slip up.

Me, on the other hand, I might hope a little. I have to believe that if people around the league told Haslem that Lombardi is a backstabbing C-sucker who can't judge talent, he would not have signed off on the hire. Banner said something about having to be sure about Lombardi before he put him "in front of" Haslem and Chud, so this doens't appear to be a rubber-stamp job.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:43 PM

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Unfortunately I'm always optimistic about my sports teams.  Heck, I was optimistic about the Indians in the 60s-80s (for the most part).  Mostly it's because the alternative is either losing hope or looking for some other team to root for - and I can't do that.  So once again I'll convince myself to be optimistic although my brain tells me this stuff isn't good.  But they aren't making it easy, let me tell you.

1/6/04 Rest in peace "Daddy Wags." May perpetual light shine upon you.

"It's alright to have a hitch in your swing, but when you have a flaw in your hitch, you're in trouble." - Leon Wagner

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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:57 PM

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I'm looking at it this way.

I'm optimistic about Chud, Turner, Horton and the players on the field.

I'm Missouri on the front office, seriously trending to pessimistic.

I will say this, from a PR standpoint, they're off to a flubbing start. Can you spell c-l-u-s-t-e-r-f-u-c-k?

PR doesn't win games, coaches and players do. If they can manage not to cock up the draft, we might be aright.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:30 AM

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Gameface64 wrote: I'm looking at it this way.

I'm optimistic about Chud, Turner, Horton and the players on the field.

I'm Missouri on the front office, seriously trending to pessimistic.

I will say this, from a PR standpoint, they're off to a flubbing start. Can you spell c-l-u-s-t-e-r-f-u-c-k?

PR doesn't win games, coaches and players do. If they can manage not to cock up the draft, we might be aright.
Exactly GF.  The on field product is the important part. And we have a young team with developing players and good team of coaches (on paper).

Now if the FO can stay out of their way, it may work and the jerks in the FO can take all the credit.

Who cares?  And the press is eating it all up!

Well, who cares until a few years down the road and we have to rely on their draft picks. 

There is much open to debate on how the draft will go down and because there is a rather large group of us not sold on Banner and Lombardi, it leaves a lot of room to bitch and complain if it don't work.

A perfect place to be for a fan.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 11:08 AM

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PROSECUTOR wrote: Unfortunately, I often slip up and hope. I'm weak.

I have a feeling this won't be one of those times you slip up.

Me, on the other hand, I might hope a little. I have to believe that if people around the league told Haslem that Lombardi is a backstabbing C-sucker who can't judge talent, he would not have signed off on the hire. Banner said something about having to be sure about Lombardi before he put him "in front of" Haslem and Chud, so this doens't appear to be a rubber-stamp job.
I just want to make sure you understand what happened yesterday. You will hope or not hope, be pissed or not be pissed as you see fit.

From the get go when the word leaked of the sale of the Browns and Haslam was identified, Banner and Lombardi were leaked with it. Its been set that way for months.

So, your new owner just spent two months lying to the fans and the media. 

But hell, he did sit in the pound for a preseason game.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:33 PM

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daddywags wrote: Unfortunately I'm always optimistic about my sports teams.  Heck, I was optimistic about the Indians in the 60s-80s (for the most part).  Mostly it's because the alternative is either losing hope or looking for some other team to root for - and I can't do that.  So once again I'll convince myself to be optimistic although my brain tells me this stuff isn't good.  But they aren't making it easy, let me tell you.
If the Browns are sucking for 20-25 more years...they will have no Browns.

The Indians were bad for 41. Browns have been bad for 23 (for the most part).
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:16 AM

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PROSECUTOR wrote: Unfortunately, I often slip up and hope. I'm weak.

I have a feeling this won't be one of those times you slip up.

Me, on the other hand, I might hope a little. I have to believe that if people around the league told Haslem that Lombardi is a backstabbing C-sucker who can't judge talent, he would not have signed off on the hire. Banner said something about having to be sure about Lombardi before he put him "in front of" Haslem and Chud, so this doens't appear to be a rubber-stamp job.
Again who are these top people who recommended this person to Haslam??
And why didn't they recommend Lombardi to all the other teams who have hired GM's in the last 5 years?
Are they laughing now?
Banner's being sure was spoken about when he said the "two years they worked in Philly"..
Uh is that all?
Everywhere else he's failed miserably and undermined people and been sitting on NFLN like Tweetybird.
He was rumored to be a Cleveland hire since Banner was brought in so this wasn't done overnight.
It's been in the works for a long time.
And I believe like it's been written about,ML has been the mouth stirring the moves made..it just won't be made known to us.
"Chud can U work with Lomdardi?? He did recommend U"..
Wouldn't put it past him.
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