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Re: So let's reset on Haslam.

Posted: 1/18/2013 12:02 PM

Re: So let's reset on Haslam. 


P:

I don't care about the uniforms as long as they don't put an elf on the helmet. Or a "B". Or an ugly dog. 

AA:

Don't care much about it on the surface.  But I care about the underlying principle.

And that is that more than most other franchises, Browns fans value their history and tradition (and for outsiders:  if you had a team that performed like it has in this century, you'd be yearning for the past as well).  And part of that is don't screw with the uni.  Giants, Packers, Bears, Steelers, Lions, etc.  many of the old school teams make very subtle changes, nothing over the top. 

And I do think the helmets would be a deal breaker.  Haslam would be looked upon as some sort of reverse carpetbagger.

P:

I don't care what they call the stadium.

AA:

Victor's House of Barbecued Bats Stadium?  Massengale Disposable Park?

Okay, nothing wrong with the name other than it's generic (and they don't even supply energy to their namesake).  

But the irony is that the guy fans viewed as the foppish diletante got it.  The name was traditional.  It couldn't be bought.  When ESPN announcers said "... to Cleveland Browns Stadium..." fans across the country didn't have to think twice "is that Buffalo?  Atlanta?").
Then the owner who's more involved and with whom more fans seem to identify, the guy who they thought was more likely to get it... doesn't get it.  At least that part of it.
Thankfully, he's not big on cheerleaders, and hopefully he's not big on Keebler Elves on the helmet.  Just don't think that because he's the Truck Stop King that he gets the fans more than the Soccer Dad.

P:

Were there better HC choices that would have been offered the job and accepted if not for their dislike of Banner? Who knows? 

AA:

That's the solace we can take after intimations that the new guy wanted to make a big splash.  I just hope that if Chud takes off as a real winner, we won't be hearing revisionist tales about how Jimmy Slim Jim had his eye on the Chudster from the start.

P:

I like that Haslem was personally involved in the interview and selection process for the head coach and now for the head personnel guy, rather than just turn everything over to Banner like Randy did with Holmgren. 

AA:

And yet when Lerner WAS involved in the interview and selection process (Romeo), people were upset that he didn't hire a real football guy to do it instead.  They seemed far more satisfied when Holmgren was hired to in turn hire everybody else on the football side...
and we ended up with the contrite AF pilot staying at the Hanoi Hilton.

As said many times over the years, there's a thin line between the disengaged owner and the meddler.  Different owners doing the same thing shouldn't yield different reactions.
 
PROS:

I don't have a problem with Haslem and I'm glad to have an engaged owner for a change. 

AA:

I agree that he's engaged.  Randy tried, but was ultimately just biding time until his ten years was up.

But being engaged may be overrated if the hires are questionable.  It's one thing when the hires look encouraging, but ultimately don't pan out.  It's another when they don't look that great from day one.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 2:44 PM

Re: So let's reset on Haslam. 


Lane says Lombardi was a backstabbing MF'er when he was here with the old Browns. That was 18-22 years ago. Maybe something has changed over the years. 

The question is whether he can hire and/or retain good scouts and can he put in place an evaluation system that consistently brings in talent in the draft and free agency. He hasn't worked in the league in five years. In some cases the person could have had his pick of jobs but decided to stay in broadcasting (e.g. Cowher). In Lombardi's case, I think it was more like nobody wanted to hire him. 

Until now.

But, having just read MKC's column on the hiring announcement, I don't feel as pessimistic about it. Supposedly Lombardi has more "self-awareness" now and is no longer driven by ambition. Says if he was the same guy as he was in the 90s he would not have been hired. Just have to wait and see, as usual.

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Posted: 1/18/2013 3:43 PM

Re: So let's reset on Haslam. 


Says if he was the same guy as he was in the 90s he would not have been hired.     

Come on Pros...what'd ya expect him to say.

On the flip side of the coin...I hope he's right.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:53 PM

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But, having just read MKC's column on the hiring announcement, I don't feel as pessimistic about it. Supposedly Lombardi has more "self-awareness" now and is no longer driven by ambition. Says if he was the same guy as he was in the 90s he would not have been hired. Just have to wait and see, as usual.

MKC is good for two things.  1.) Summing up other peoples stories on the Browns and 2.) pushing forward whatever agenda they have on the docket over in Berea. 

Pugsley probably typed the story up for her to make sure she got in all the parts of how he is a "changed man". 

Listening to that presser I swear to God I thought the Mafia Lawyer left his vineyard and was back behind the curtain working the text on the teleprompter.
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