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Raheem Morris, Mel Tucker, and Ray Horton

Posted: 1/17/2013 12:34 PM

Raheem Morris, Mel Tucker, and Ray Horton 


I'm assuming the DC is down to Morris and Tucker now that Jacksonville's HC spot has been filled by a defensive guy and word is Pagano is being kept in SD.

Tucker's run a 43 and a 34 and worked with Chud in 07/08.   He was considered an early favorite but Jacksonville was looking at him as a HC.   He'd match what Chud talked about not necessarily bringing in a 3-4 or 4-3 guy but a guy who would be able to either use both or use the best for personell.

Plus - He's from Cleveland. 
Minus - If he's any good this year he'll probably be a HC candidate over the next couple years

Morris was brought up in the 43 Tampa-2 system but moved the Bucs away from it when he took over to a man-to-man/heavy blitz scheme.  He reportedly did a pretty decent job on the Skins DBs this year although their defense as a whole was pretty bad most of the year.   Browns are  FS and CB away from having the personell capable of fitting well in the Tampa-2.   Maybe a DE too although I think Sheard would actually fit well in a Tampa 2.

Plus - He has experience as a HC even if it wasn't a very good experience
Minus - The farther up he got in Tampa the worst their defense got

Horton I have no idea about but the Zona defense was considered really good at the start of the season before their entire franchise crumbled to nothingness.  But I'm adding him in since he would seem to be someone Banner/Haslem was interested in even if he does not have a connection to Chud (that I know of).  Apparantly Horton is another guy that has run both 43 (Zona) and 34 (Pittspuke) so he'd bring a similar skillset to Tucker.  Both have also been in the mix for HC positions.  And both have managed quality D's although I'd argue Jacksonville's been one of the best defenses for a while.

Last edited 1/18/2013 1:24 PM by 0tter

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Posted: 1/17/2013 2:15 PM

Re: Raheem Morris and Mel Tucker 


I like all the candidates.
I wouldn't dismiss Pagano quite yet either...he and Chud have a good relationship.

Morris is young (i think 35?) and wants to get into a position where he can make things happen.
Tucker seems to have more options...similar to Pagano.

I'd take any of the 3.

We'll probably end up with Elmer Fudd or someone like that however.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 7:01 AM

Re: Raheem Morris and Mel Tucker or Horton 



0tter wrote: I'm assuming the DC is down to Morris and Tucker now that Jacksonville's HC spot has been filled by a defensive guy and word is Pagano is being kept in SD.

Tucker's run a 43 and a 34 and worked with Chud in 07/08.   He was considered an early favorite but Jacksonville was looking at him as a HC.   He'd match what Chud talked about not necessarily bringing in a 3-4 or 4-3 guy but a guy who would be able to either use both or use the best for personell.

Plus - He's from Cleveland. 
Minus - If he's any good this year he'll probably be a HC candidate over the next couple years

Morris was brought up in the 43 Tampa-2 system but moved the Bucs away from it when he took over to a man-to-man/heavy blitz scheme.  He reportedly did a pretty decent job on the Skins DBs this year although their defense as a whole was pretty bad most of the year.   Browns are  FS and CB away from having the personell capable of fitting well in the Tampa-2.   Maybe a DE too although I think Sheard would actually fit well in a Tampa 2.

Plus - He has experience as a HC even if it wasn't a very good experience
Minus - The farther up he got in Tampa the worst their defense got

SD:

Personaly , I'd like to see us stick with the 43 , but if we were to go 34 , then gime a younger more aggressive approach  more in line with how the inbred play it .

Tucker is now in play .

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Posted: 1/18/2013 7:41 AM

Re: Raheem Morris and Mel Tucker 


I'm pretty excited by the prospect of Radio Raheem. Great fit & the DE from A&M plus a vet CB gets us what he needs to run a potentially good D.

Mother Tucker? Meh. Awe ite.

John Strong & a reboot to a 3-4? I really hope not.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 7:48 AM

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I believed before the search began that Horton would be the HC of the Cleveland Browns. He spent 6 years with the Pukes and is known an being aggressive and innovative on his side of the ball. Both of those made me think he would be a Haslam guy due to the time he spent as a minority owner for the Pukes. It didn't turn out to be correct however I do believe that Haslam was being honest when he said he came away very impressed with Horton. 

Horton understands the division, he took a group in Arizona and turned them into a nasty defense playing tough up the middle and his zone blitz schemes will work with our personnel. 

The only problem now is if we end up with anyone other than Horton as DC I'm going to be admittedly disappointed. 

Sign me up!

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Posted: 1/18/2013 8:28 AM

Re: Raheem Morris and Mel Tucker or Horton 


MHill- I'm on the Horton bandwagon as well.  I think he'd be great fit for our D.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 4:23 PM

Re: Raheem Morris and Mel Tucker or Horton 


Per Shefter, Horton officially hired as DC.

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