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Re: He likes Green

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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:39 PM

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Aardvark wrote: Kelly just likes green.

The fashion as well as the bucks.

And now brace yourselves as the Eagles unis enter the 21st century with 27 variations.

But really, never underestimate the power of a major market and the very high profile NFC East.

Had Lurie opted out and the Eagles were on the market when Haslam was shopping, it might have been no different. 

Had Banner remained a boat anchor at the Race Street Pier, it may have made not a bit of difference to Kelly.

Didn't want Kelly either, though seeing the Niners demolish the Packers may give me pause.

And agree.  Haslam is just a guy with an anchor. 

But if he was just a guy in Philadelphia, even with an anchor, he may have gotten his wish.

It can be more than just the personalities involved.
The winner defeats all obstacles. Haslam told us so at his PC when they fired Shurmer.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 6:16 PM

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Listen, I'm going to be upfront here. I've been drinking Dogfish since about 4:00.

With that out of the way, I'll get to my brilliant take.

I have a new respect for Haslam that I didn't have before this Kelly hire. Since we're all dropping our speculation, here's mine. Kelly was Haslams's "guy". Hands down. Haslam had a plan for how much he was willing to give within his business plan to get Kelly. This offer was offered to Kelly and there was some sort of verbal with regard to the proposal. Once Kelly pulled a Kelly and went all emo, Haslam pulled the offer and left town. Without his "guy". On purpose.

I think Haslam could have continued to go after Kelly and finally landed  his "guy" yet he chose not to. He offered what he was willing to offer within the business plan. Kelly is Kelly. Haslam moved on. The Eagles caved.

Battling through process since 99'

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Posted: 1/16/2013 6:25 PM

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GR:

The winner defeats all obstacles. Haslam told us so at his PC when they fired Shurmer.

AA:

Hey, you'll get no argument from me.  Owners have hubris out the ying-yang, and it doesn't help when fawning honeymooner fans have a collective tongue up his bung.

It may have been Jimmy's first time taken down a notch in the NFL, and it sure won't be his last.  I get it.

But timing is everything, especially when teams put out their For Sale signs when a Captain of Industry is looking for his ultimate new yacht.

Hey, if the Eagles and Browns both went on the block at the same time, ya think Jimmy would have looked at Cleveland twice?  Only if he was rebuffed in his effort to land in Philly.

But Cleveland was available, so Jimmy went with it and was determined to sprinkle it with his unique brand of entrepreneurial fairy dust.

And what happened to all those blue collar traditionalists who loved the fact that it was CLEVELAND BROWNS Stadium, and not just another [Insert your corporate name here] Field?   Turns out the effete snob kept it real, and Jimmy Slim Jim went for the quick bucks, even if it amounted to a civic joke. 

What stadium is named after a company that provides a basic service to buildings....

... just not the one that took its name?
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Posted: 1/16/2013 7:28 PM

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MHill wrote: Listen, I'm going to be upfront here. I've been drinking Dogfish since about 4:00.

With that out of the way, I'll get to my brilliant take.

I have a new respect for Haslam that I didn't have before this Kelly hire. Since we're all dropping our speculation, here's mine. Kelly was Haslams's "guy". Hands down. Haslam had a plan for how much he was willing to give within his business plan to get Kelly. This offer was offered to Kelly and there was some sort of verbal with regard to the proposal. Once Kelly pulled a Kelly and went all emo, Haslam pulled the offer and left town. Without his "guy". On purpose.

I think Haslam could have continued to go after Kelly and finally landed  his "guy" yet he chose not to. He offered what he was willing to offer within the business plan. Kelly is Kelly. Haslam moved on. The Eagles caved.
You have it partly right. Once Kelly began to show that he was considering not coming out and/or other offers, Haslam lost a lot of interest. You can, if you choose, to believe Haslam saw his instability and decided he needed to walk. If Kelly succeeds Haslam was childish. If Kelly fails, Haslam was briliiant after his initial stupidity of putting Kelly at the top of his list without ever having met him or interviewed him. Maybe at the suggestion of Lombardi...huh?

What I'm basically saying is you have to have talked yourself into a deluded state fueled by desperate desire to decide Haslam is the new Carnegie of the NFL. From that standpoint the only conclusion you can reach once Kelly wasn't hired was that it was some basic flaw in Kelly and not Haslam or Banner.

I'm arguing for a "Let's shut up and watch." because assuming Haslam is a winner or loser is stupid. The logical starting point is he's a rookie NFL owner and he may or may not **** this up.

After watching to this point, I would say you have to really go a long way to believe that Lurie "settled" for the guy both he and Haslam broke speed records to go talk to while Haslam showed great savvy and skill landing the prize catch of Chudzinski. A guy not mentioned for days after the search began.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 7:50 AM

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Dwight Clark was alot like Haslam then, right?

When Billick wouldn't sign right away he chucked that lack of commitment and we got our guy.

Dwight was therefore a savvy winner.

That's my takeaway from Mysterio's point.
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