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Re: Mad Max

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Posted: 1/16/2013 9:46 PM

Re: Mad Max 



redright wrote: Snowball's chance?  I talked to Hoover. He says Flacco is moving on...50/50 with a double digit loss to the Pats

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Blt has the oldest roster in the NFL and needs a rebuild. Ray, Reed, Boldin, Birk, Leach, McKinnee, Suggs...all 10 year men...all have seen better days...all are CAP unfriendly. That is the core of the Ravens.  After that group they have Rice, Ngata and Smith. There are a lot of holes that have to be filled and very little money. The Ravens payroll for this upcoming season is 108 million.

http://www.altiusdirectory.com...s-salaries.html

Baltimore Ravens Player Salaries

PlayerPos.2012-13 Salary2013-14 SalarySalary CapTeam
Ray Rice RB $7,700,000 $0 $7,700,000 Baltimore Ravens
Ed Reed S $7,200,000 $0 $10,025,000 Baltimore Ravens
Joe Flacco QB $6,760,000 $0 $8,860,000 Baltimore Ravens
Anquan Boldin WR $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 Baltimore Ravens
Ray Lewis LB $4,950,000 $5,400,000 $4,950,000 Baltimore Ravens
Terrell Suggs DT $4,900,000 $4,900,000 $11,183,333 Baltimore Ravens
Marshal Yanda G $4,500,000 $4,500,000 $6,500,000 Baltimore Ravens
Bryant McKinnie T $3,200,000 $0 $4,200,000 Baltimore Ravens
Vonta Leach FB $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $4,333,333 Baltimore Ravens
Haloti Ngata DT $2,900,000 $4,000,000 $17,900,000 Baltimore Ravens
Chris Carr (Buyout) CB $2,850,000 $0 $2,850,000 Baltimore Ravens
Domonique Foxworth (Buyout) CB $2,700,000 $0 $2,700,000 Baltimore Ravens
Billy Cundiff K $2,200,000 $2,300,000 $2,800,000 Baltimore Ravens
Sam Koch P $1,600,000 $1,900,000 $2,000,000 Baltimore Ravens
Bernard Pollard S $1,250,000 $0 $1,750,000 Baltimore Ravens
Michael Oher T $865,000 $1,685,000 $2,040,000
 
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Ozzy has his work cut out. If Flacco's pay is to double and where does he go to build out the team? If Ozzy is not sold on Flacco and the fanbase is not sold on Flacco, will he be willing to go all in money wise to sign a QB who wants more?

Wouldnt the fun part be a team floating a proposed 20million year deal for Flacco? It is what Brees got and if Blt has to come up with that kind of money...do you keep Flacco keep your money and get a first round pick?  You know what? I would be willing to trade Colt McCoy for Flacco.biggrin

Blt is in a bind if Flacco keeps to his guns and wants the big bucks. Playing in Blt has not been kind. He is treated as Fran Tarkenton was by the Giants' fans. Big money and a friendley fan base...yeah, Joe would like to move on.

ETA....THE BROWNS 2013 payroll is 89 million. We are nearly 20 million under the Ravens and have some 48+ million in CAP space. Ravens salary is 107 million without Joe Flacco cashing in.
SD:

Cmon man , don't make me slap you , just wake the eff up and ask yourself .

Who starts a rebuild  by dumping the only person on the roster that can play QB .

With Lewis gone , this will be Flaccos' team .

The rats don't have a high draft pick courtesy of fleecing some smuck outta their lunch , and dependent on the weekend will pick no higher than 28 and if Lucky could be picking last.

Worse , there isn't a single QB in the draft who grades out as a first round pick although desperate teams will still pick one or two from this substandard class and try and spin it to their fan base .

Better for us they get squeezed in the re-signing and we steal their lunch , by signing Ellerbe away from them .

No way they let Flacco walk , sign him and trade him after they franchise him if they had too , but no effin way he walks , and I don't care who told ya otherwise.

That dream must die my friend.


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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:51 AM

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Soul,  C'mon man post ......  Rackable......  Prevailing wisdom.

BUT

 I was talking to Hoover.  You know after the movie he left school he went to Baltimore Worked defending the guilty through the Public Defenders office. One more chance.  we really need one more chance . It will work.  I. Left Mass ,Now In the land of the Flacco right now and Hoover says

Flacco is the best F A Q B.  For two years he has said top 5 money or I am out of here.  Ravens Won't pay top 5 .  Flaccid vs Brady . Flacco out played Brady 4 out  of 5  Pats won 3 of 5  everyone blames Flacco.  Flacco leaving is as Cutler or Tarkenton. Ozzy can't get better but the fans want someone else . In the world of Ray it is all Flaccos fault

 Ozzy can break the bank for Joe or get our #6, stay well under the Cap, and 'rebuild with younger players and the draft.

Silly? Only if you have more faith in Banner than I do. Banner is the guy who broke the bank in Philly bringing in big name high priced D bs who never produced on field.  Banner was the guy who blew a wad on Vick.

Someone posts herein of S F . Q B Smith.  not bad.  Anderson coming back behind Weeds. A lot of talk. Imo Flacco Smith, Anderson make better sense than Weeds / McCoy.  And IF, IF, Flacco has a Flaccid day in Foxborough, we have an interesting off-season.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 12:01 PM

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redright wrote: Soul,  C'mon man post ......  Rackable......  Prevailing wisdom.

BUT

 I was talking to Hoover.  You know after the movie he left school he went to Baltimore Worked defending the guilty through the Public Defenders office. One more chance.  we really need one more chance . It will work.  I. Left Mass ,Now In the land of the Flacco right now and Hoover says

Flacco is the best F A Q B.  For two years he has said top 5 money or I am out of here.  Ravens Won't pay top 5 .  Flaccid vs Brady . Flacco out played Brady 4 out  of 5  Pats won 3 of 5  everyone blames Flacco.  Flacco leaving is as Cutler or Tarkenton. Ozzy can't get better but the fans want someone else . In the world of Ray it is all Flaccos fault

 Ozzy can break the bank for Joe or get our #6, stay well under the Cap, and 'rebuild with younger players and the draft.

Silly? Only if you have more faith in Banner than I do. Banner is the guy who broke the bank in Philly bringing in big name high priced D bs who never produced on field.  Banner was the guy who blew a wad on Vick.

Someone posts herein of S F . Q B Smith.  not bad.  Anderson coming back behind Weeds. A lot of talk. Imo Flacco Smith, Anderson make better sense than Weeds / McCoy.  And IF, IF, Flacco has a Flaccid day in Foxborough, we have an interesting off-season.
SD:

Nothing wrong with your rating Flacco as a top five QB in my book, in todays game , because he can spin the bottle  ungainly awkward dull personality not withstanding that's the ink on the money in today 's game.

However where your logic drops off the clifft into fantasy land , is how you gonna convince Ozzie to take that blue pill down the rabbit hole and channel his inner most Josh McDaniels stooopid demon and utterly destroy and setback his franchise with such and ignorant blatant retarded mistake .

You got a way for him to drink that cup of poop and turn Ted Stepien stoopid , I'm witcha.



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Posted: 1/19/2013 3:09 PM

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SoulDawg74 wrote:
redright wrote: Soul,  C'mon man post ......  Rackable......  Prevailing wisdom.

BUT

 I was talking to Hoover.  You know after the movie he left school he went to Baltimore Worked defending the guilty through the Public Defenders office. One more chance.  we really need one more chance . It will work.  I. Left Mass ,Now In the land of the Flacco right now and Hoover says

Flacco is the best F A Q B.  For two years he has said top 5 money or I am out of here.  Ravens Won't pay top 5 .  Flaccid vs Brady . Flacco out played Brady 4 out  of 5  Pats won 3 of 5  everyone blames Flacco.  Flacco leaving is as Cutler or Tarkenton. Ozzy can't get better but the fans want someone else . In the world of Ray it is all Flaccos fault

 Ozzy can break the bank for Joe or get our #6, stay well under the Cap, and 'rebuild with younger players and the draft.

Silly? Only if you have more faith in Banner than I do. Banner is the guy who broke the bank in Philly bringing in big name high priced D bs who never produced on field.  Banner was the guy who blew a wad on Vick.

Someone posts herein of S F . Q B Smith.  not bad.  Anderson coming back behind Weeds. A lot of talk. Imo Flacco Smith, Anderson make better sense than Weeds / McCoy.  And IF, IF, Flacco has a Flaccid day in Foxborough, we have an interesting off-season.
SD:

Nothing wrong with your rating Flacco as a top five QB in my book, in todays game , because he can spin the bottle  ungainly awkward dull personality not withstanding that's the ink on the money in today 's game.

However where your logic drops off the clifft into fantasy land , is how you gonna convince Ozzie to take that blue pill down the rabbit hole and channel his inner most Josh McDaniels stooopid demon and utterly destroy and setback his franchise with such and ignorant blatant retarded mistake .

You got a way for him to drink that cup of poop and turn Ted Stepien stoopid , I'm witcha.



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Heard Oz will foolishly trade his bright shines Nicole for Banners dull tiny dime. Banner gets his splash. Oz gets his rebuild...draft pick, cash, Cap all in hand.

More real interest is the book.  Pats came out at 10 or favorites. The smart people'll e said crazy. Pats haven't won by seven in the past five.  70+ percent of the money is on the Ravens.  That NEVER happens. Pats win by double digits and Vegas rakes in a ton of cash.  Spread is now 8 - 8 1/2 .  That makes no sense. Game should come down to a field goal. Somebody knows something.

Part 'll
 If Brady toasts the old Ravens D and Flacco can't keep up, then what?  does Oz go pistol? New O C ? can Flacco be anything other than an AIR Correal Q B ? Pitchforks and torches on 40?  all the balls are in the air.

Again,

If and only If, Vegas is right and the smart football people are wrong .... Brady shines .... Flacco ... fails.... does any of this come into play.  Smith and Flacco become the talk and neither get Manning money.
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