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Re: Attacking D = Reboot

Posted: 1/27/2013 8:01 PM

Re: Attacking D = Reboot 


This thread is informative.

What is going to happen.

Arizona, San Diego, Dallas and maybe others are going from the 34 to the 43.  There is a good chance the Browns make a trade or two to switch some of the extra 43 players for some of these teams 34 players.

Now, I could see two to three 34 type players added to the team through free agency.  They may not be high priced free agents.  I don't see a $100 million dollar type contract.  I could see one or two good players added.

I noticed a member mentioned the first three players selected in the draft are defensive.  I could see them going OLB, CB and S.

Some players names could be added later.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 10:08 PM

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who freaking cares who we draft.. I am writing the draft off as long as Lombardi is here.. I mean he can not draft... not a single decent pick ever..
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:23 AM

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RAM:

Now, I could see two to three 34 type players added to the team through free agency.  They may not be high priced free agents.  I don't see a $100 million dollar type contract.  I could see one or two good players added.

AA:

Some front 7 pickups for previous 3-4's.

With Romeo & Todd Grantham..

2005:  Jason Fisk, Matt Stewart, Ethan Kelley, Simon Frazier
2006:  Willie McGinest, Ted Washington.

With Mangini and Rob Ryan...

2009:  Kenyon Coleman, Eric Barton, Matt Roth, David Bowens, CJ Mosley, Brian Schaefering, Jason Trusnik
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Posted: 1/28/2013 10:05 AM

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Aardvark wrote: RAM:

Now, I could see two to three 34 type players added to the team through free agency.  They may not be high priced free agents.  I don't see a $100 million dollar type contract.  I could see one or two good players added.

AA:

Some front 7 pickups for previous 3-4's.

With Romeo & Todd Grantham..

2005:  Jason Fisk, Matt Stewart, Ethan Kelley, Simon Frazier
2006:  Willie McGinest, Ted Washington.

With Mangini and Rob Ryan...

2009:  Kenyon Coleman, Eric Barton, Matt Roth, David Bowens, CJ Mosley, Brian Schaefering, Jason Trusnik
Overall a pretty motley crew.

McGinest, Roth and Washington were the only decent ones.

And one would expect the same calling from our current FO?
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Posted: 1/28/2013 1:15 PM

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LUMP:

Overall a pretty motley crew.

McGinest, Roth and Washington were the only decent ones.

AA:

Willie and Ted were decent ones in their prime, and their prime wasn't in Cleveland. 

LUMP:

And one would expect the same calling from our current FO?

AA:

Dunno.  They certainly have money to spend, but a lot of it has to do with connections to the new coaching staff, whether a player wants to get in on the ground floor, or whether they can be the missing link for a playoff contender.  Some players may have toiled with mediocre teams much of their career and don't want to put in another year or two with yet another team to see if things pan out.

When a prospective fa visits a team, he sees a lot more of the GM and Prez, and maybe a cursory lunch or dinner with the owner.  Me thinks with Cleveland, they'll be seeing a bit more of Haslam, and a bit less of Banner.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 9:12 PM

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Lumpy wrote:
Aardvark wrote: RAM:

Now, I could see two to three 34 type players added to the team through free agency.  They may not be high priced free agents.  I don't see a $100 million dollar type contract.  I could see one or two good players added.

AA:

Some front 7 pickups for previous 3-4's.

With Romeo & Todd Grantham..

2005:  Jason Fisk, Matt Stewart, Ethan Kelley, Simon Frazier
2006:  Willie McGinest, Ted Washington.

With Mangini and Rob Ryan...

2009:  Kenyon Coleman, Eric Barton, Matt Roth, David Bowens, CJ Mosley, Brian Schaefering, Jason Trusnik
Overall a pretty motley crew.

McGinest, Roth and Washington were the only decent ones.

And one would expect the same calling from our current FO?
Lumpy

 A big difference could be the input from Chud and Norval on offensive players . They know what they want and have a history of success.  Horton by a measure of pro football system had the second best defense in 2012   If the coaches have a say we could and should get solid additions .  Romeo and Eric brought in aged retreads .  I expect better . Doubt they raid Zona, San Diego, or Tenn for old guys
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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:55 AM

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I don't know....

There isn't much of a track record to guess what's going to happen until it occurs.

IMO, the offense is pretty well set with the addtion of a QB to compete with Weedon, and another solid OL and TE.

On defense, the switch may be a sore spot for some players.  Most likely are Sheard, Rubin, DQ, and all those db's that can't cover.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 3:23 PM

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Just me, but I've never cared much for D B s that can't cover or can't tackle

Minn had a safety with the most INTs ever and it took him 20+ years to get to the hall. It was said all he could do was play center field while others had to tackle dion never tackled and went first ballot. Then again tackling is only appreciated by us old guys. Lol. And I must be an old guy. I can picture him but can't think of his name. Paul something
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Posted: 1/29/2013 3:27 PM

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redright wrote: Just me, but I've never cared much for D B s that can't cover or can't tackle

Minn had a safety with the most INTs ever and it took him 20+ years to get to the hall. It was said all he could do was play center field while others had to tackle dion never tackled and went first ballot. Then again tackling is only appreciated by us old guys. Lol. And I must be an old guy. I can picture him but can't think of his name. Paul something
Paul Krause, he had 81 int's.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 3:29 PM

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Paul Krause. 81 INTs Picked 45 Q B s
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Posted: 1/29/2013 7:36 PM

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Wardawg11 wrote:
redright wrote: Just me, but I've never cared much for D B s that can't cover or can't tackle

Minn had a safety with the most INTs ever and it took him 20+ years to get to the hall. It was said all he could do was play center field while others had to tackle dion never tackled and went first ballot. Then again tackling is only appreciated by us old guys. Lol. And I must be an old guy. I can picture him but can't think of his name. Paul something
Paul Krause, he had 81 int's.
thanks war dog  I think he had more tackles than Dion .   biggrin
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