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Re: Attacking D = Reboot

Posted: 1/14/2013 8:57 AM

Re: Attacking D = Reboot 


The good news, if you can call it that, is the back 7 has been so devoid of talent that the positions had to be filled anyway, no matter what the scheme.  At least there you avoid the problem of whether a Taylor or Sheard can be reconfigured (hoping Jabal ends up as even a poor man's Willie McGinest).

The cap space will come in awfully handy.  Guard, lbers, free safety, real fb, blocking te.

If the Browns stay at 6, the pass rush olb. 

If gone, the second cb, or trade down to pick up the second rounder.

A year in transition might see more blowouts than this past season, but the defense wasn't as good as many believed anyway.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 9:44 AM

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Vark- A year in transition might see more blowouts than this past season, but the defense wasn't as good as many believed anyway.

- It's premature to predict blowouts based on a defensive scheme change. At worst I would expect high scoring loses, not blowouts.

I believe our own ability to score will again increase this coming year under Chud. No more of the ridiculous 1 yard outs to the FB/TE.

The only thing I've heard since Chud was hire that brothers me is the rumor that DA will be coming back with Chudzinski. Although I can see value in it as DA could help BW learn the offense, the part that brothers me is it seems that Anderson believes he could earn a starting role again with the team. I just as soon not go there.

In the end I realize the need for another down field passing QB, I just perfer it be someone else. Either way it pretty much means the end for McCoy. That, I'm ok with.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 10:28 AM

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Aardvark wrote: The good news, if you can call it that, is the back 7 has been so devoid of talent that the positions had to be filled anyway, no matter what the scheme.  At least there you avoid the problem of whether a Taylor or Sheard can be reconfigured (hoping Jabal ends up as even a poor man's Willie McGinest).

The cap space will come in awfully handy.  Guard, lbers, free safety, real fb, blocking te.

If the Browns stay at 6, the pass rush olb. 

If gone, the second cb, or trade down to pick up the second rounder.

A year in transition might see more blowouts than this past season, but the defense wasn't as good as many believed anyway.
good points

We have been so devoid of high quality talent and production for so long, we have come to accept mediocre as excellence.  Ward is a good in the box run stuffing safety, at least when he maintains scheme integrity and Haden is quality. DQ has been missing so often it is hard to count on him. Indeed we do need an influx of quality and dependable.

Defense wasn't all that good. Suffering close loses by a thousand paper cuts isn't winning. Jauron did well with what he had, but the D couldn't get off the field and rarely delivered a knock-out blow. Hard to think of them as dominating.

Chud will undeservedly suffer slings and arrows.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 8:10 AM

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POPPA:

It's premature to predict blowouts based on a defensive scheme change.

AA:

When I wrote "a year in transition," I was talking about change on both sides of the ball.  We "MIGHT see more blowouts" as both the offense and defense take time to readjust given new schemes and, presumably, a fair amount of turnover (likely more on the defensive side).

POPPA:

I believe our own ability to score will again increase this coming year under Chud. No more of the ridiculous 1 yard outs to the FB/TE.

AA:

How quickly they forget Steve Heiden. 

POPPA:

The only thing I've heard since Chud was hire that brothers me is the rumor that DA will be coming back with Chudzinski. Although I can see value in it as DA could help BW learn the offense, the part that brothers me is it seems that Anderson believes he could earn a starting role again with the team. I just as soon not go there.

AA:

No kidding.  And the only thing more ridiculous than the idea of Anderson returning to Cleveland would be the idea that he could help Weeden learn the offense.  Derek would neither be ready, willing nor able.

POPPA:

In the end I realize the need for another down field passing QB, I just perfer it be someone else. Either way it pretty much means the end for McCoy. That, I'm ok with.

AA:

That makes sense on the surface of it, and for more than just that reason, McCoy is likely gone.  But it makes me think that other teams don't necessarily have backups who have the same style as starters.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 3:23 PM

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New Chargers coach Mike McCoy reportedly wants to keep holdover John Pagano on board as defensive coordinator.

Pagano is under contract for one more year after improving the Bolts' defense from 22nd in 2011 to 16th in 2012. Pagano's unit surrendered fewer big plays, created more turnovers, and rushed the passer more consistently than Greg Manusky's defense the year before


No Pagano means no 3-4?

What defense does Mel Tucker like? He seems to be the next man up.
Would Lovie stoop to being a DC again?

Wake me up when we are 10 and 6...

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