eddyjizza wrote:

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--- soonersw wrote:

I'd take Keith Jackson over Chuck Long.

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You would take a guy without an ounce of coaching experience over a guy that has 16 years of experience, coached a Heisman winner QB, helped lead OU to two BCS title games and who recruited Bradford? That makes sense.

soonerBAS wrote: I don't know enough about most of those guys to have an opinion.... just cross Mangino and Long off, and I suppose any of the others would be ok.

If the Houston guy is a good coach and could help with recruiting the Houston area, that one might be an interesting choice.... lot of if's, maybe's and such in that choice though

soonerBAS wrote: I don't know enough about most of those guys to have an opinion.... just cross Mangino and Long off, and I suppose any of the others would be ok.

If the Houston guy is a good coach and could help with recruiting the Houston area, that one might be an interesting choice.... lot of if's, maybe's and such in that choice though

eddyjizza wrote: Yes, I wouod take a guy that has coached DBs, WRs and QBs, recruited multiple positions and actually coached over a guy that has never coached. Having played a position has zero bearing on ability to coach it too, that is a laughable assumption. BTW Shipp was a LB at OU, I guess that made him unqualified to coach DTs. Ridiculous.

soonerBAS wrote: I don't know enough about most of those guys to have an opinion.... just cross Mangino and Long off, and I suppose any of the others would be ok.

If the Houston guy is a good coach and could help with recruiting the Houston area, that one might be an interesting choice.... lot of if's, maybe's and such in that choice though

ZachSooners wrote:

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--- unosooner wrote:

soonerBAS wrote: I don't know enough about most of those guys to have an opinion.... just cross Mangino and Long off, and I suppose any of the others would be ok.

If the Houston guy is a good coach and could help with recruiting the Houston area, that one might be an interesting choice.... lot of if's, maybe's and such in that choice though

Mangino and Long were not good HC's.That doesn't mean they are not good position coaches.Both were pretty good recruiters at OU.Having said that,that "Houston guy",Jamie Christian,would make a great TE coach IMO.

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Mangino was an excellent HC.

Sans the one big year, Mangino's record at KU was 38-47. He had 3 winning seasons, 4 losing ones, & 1 .500 year, & like EJ said, they did not deserve that Orange Bowl bid. Missouri had a better win than KU did on their resume' (not hard, considering that the only team that KU beat during the regular season who won as many as 8 games were the mighty Central Michigan Chippewas) in Illinois, who went to the Rose Bowl, they beat KU on a neutral field, & won their division. The only reason KU went over MU was that MU lost a game to OU in San Antonio that KU couldn't even qualify for.

FWIW, I too know a former player for the 'hawks (played OL). The next positive thing I hear him say about his experience at KU (& specifically MM) will be the first, & yes, he did finish his eligibility there.

eddyjizza wrote: Long is a hell of a coach and a solid offensive mind. Maybe OU can do better, but we could also do a whole lot worse. Guy can recruit and he understands the importance of the run game, something this staff could use. The guy had a QB at the Heisman ceremony in 3 of his 6 years at OU and two players from his offense in '04. You could find worse résumés. Would probably be a bad dynamic with Heup having played under him and now being the boss though. I agree 100% on Mangino, he doesn't need to be near the program.

eddyjizza wrote: Long is a hell of a coach and a solid offensive mind. Maybe OU can do better, but we could also do a whole lot worse. Guy can recruit and he understands the importance of the run game, something this staff could use. The guy had a QB at the Heisman ceremony in 3 of his 6 years at OU and two players from his offense in '04. You could find worse résumés. Would probably be a bad dynamic with Heup having played under him and now being the boss though. I agree 100% on Mangino, he doesn't need to be near the program.

eddyjizza wrote:

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--- BleedingCrimson4Life wrote:

eddyjizza wrote: Long is a hell of a coach and a solid offensive mind. Maybe OU can do better, but we could also do a whole lot worse. Guy can recruit and he understands the importance of the run game, something this staff could use. The guy had a QB at the Heisman ceremony in 3 of his 6 years at OU and two players from his offense in '04. You could find worse résumés. Would probably be a bad dynamic with Heup having played under him and now being the boss though. I agree 100% on Mangino, he doesn't need to be near the program.

Yeah, I find it pretty darn funny how so many on this board talk so much trash about Long but would drink Mangino's bath water.  Long recruited well, and produced some great players.  We could do much worse. 

As you also touched on, he values the run.

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Which Mangino doesn't. That was one of the biggest reasons I didn't want him back at OU, besides the myriad of other obvious reasons. Lots of revisionist history on here when his name was being thrown around. As far as OCs he was easily the worst during Stoops' tenure.

ChickenWingKing wrote: Littrell.

soonerBAS wrote: has OU ever had a special teams coach since Stoops has been here?  for Stoops to hire one now wouldn't that be a pretty big change in the way he does things?