EagleGrowl3 wrote: You'll almost always have at least 2 coaches per recruit. Area and position. Sometimes it's one in the same.

12233 wrote: I think the coaches pretty much recruit the position they coach. Norvell recruits WR's. Gundy recruits RB's. Heupel recruits QB's, etc., etc. However, some coaches are also assigned certain geographical areas. I believe I read where Kish has been assigned the Houston area. Since he came from Arizona, he may also have some west coast assignments, but I don't know that for sure.

being of this area, and knowing the young men whi strap on the pads at the HS level in Houston... Kish is a horrible coach to assign to that area imo.  No way, if true, would a a coach like Kish pull the 5thward talent needed from Houston's Big Easy feel!  If true, may wanna re-evaluate that Arizona stuff in Houston... it's phony and wont work.

Boomer Sooner

soonerswede wrote: I guess the sacrifice of three members of the coaching staff is not enough to satisfy the monster and his apetite must be quelled.  Yes, Kish must go.  The monster demands it and you must feed the monster.  The angry mob rules.  Someone must pay dearly for not meeting the feral needs of the crowd.  We offer no proof or knowledge about the subject, but we demand that someone must pay.  Kish is the source of all our problems.  He must be because the gurus of recruitment the godlike Murdoch and those of his ilk have not been singing the praises of Kish's accomplishments.  We should all be singing songs of joy and celebration to the destroying of the heretic as he is sacrificed to the angry mob to appease the monster.  Yes, it is Kish who is the source of our pain.  If it turns out that it is not Kish, we still have Wright to offer to the monster.  Surely our commitment to the monster will be recognized and we will in turn be blessed.

boomerdsooner wrote:

soonerswede wrote: I guess the sacrifice of three members of the coaching staff is not enough to satisfy the monster and his apetite must be quelled.  Yes, Kish must go.  The monster demands it and you must feed the monster.  The angry mob rules.  Someone must pay dearly for not meeting the feral needs of the crowd.  We offer no proof or knowledge about the subject, but we demand that someone must pay.  Kish is the source of all our problems.  He must be because the gurus of recruitment the godlike Murdoch and those of his ilk have not been singing the praises of Kish's accomplishments.  We should all be singing songs of joy and celebration to the destroying of the heretic as he is sacrificed to the angry mob to appease the monster.  Yes, it is Kish who is the source of our pain.  If it turns out that it is not Kish, we still have Wright to offer to the monster.  Surely our commitment to the monster will be recognized and we will in turn be blessed.

Wasn't that a little over the top, Tim?

soonerswede wrote: I guess the sacrifice of three members of the coaching staff is not enough to satisfy the monster and his apetite must be quelled.  Yes, Kish must go.  The monster demands it and you must feed the monster.  The angry mob rules.  Someone must pay dearly for not meeting the feral needs of the crowd.  We offer no proof or knowledge about the subject, but we demand that someone must pay.  Kish is the source of all our problems.  He must be because the gurus of recruitment the godlike Murdoch and those of his ilk have not been singing the praises of Kish's accomplishments.  We should all be singing songs of joy and celebration to the destroying of the heretic as he is sacrificed to the angry mob to appease the monster.  Yes, it is Kish who is the source of our pain.  If it turns out that it is not Kish, we still have Wright to offer to the monster.  Surely our commitment to the monster will be recognized and we will in turn be blessed.

WhiskyKilo wrote:

soonerswede wrote: I guess the sacrifice of three members of the coaching staff is not enough to satisfy the monster and his apetite must be quelled.  Yes, Kish must go.  The monster demands it and you must feed the monster.  The angry mob rules.  Someone must pay dearly for not meeting the feral needs of the crowd.  We offer no proof or knowledge about the subject, but we demand that someone must pay.  Kish is the source of all our problems.  He must be because the gurus of recruitment the godlike Murdoch and those of his ilk have not been singing the praises of Kish's accomplishments.  We should all be singing songs of joy and celebration to the destroying of the heretic as he is sacrificed to the angry mob to appease the monster.  Yes, it is Kish who is the source of our pain.  If it turns out that it is not Kish, we still have Wright to offer to the monster.  Surely our commitment to the monster will be recognized and we will in turn be blessed.

To heck with accountability!  No matter how many games of 700+ yardage and 40+ points given up in the future, I hope Kish will always be guaranteed a job at OU.  Because it's the right thing to do.  I'm tired of these guys who are firing coaches just because of inconsequential things such as getting blown off the field in the Cotton Bowl.

Soonerswede, I'm with you.

soonerswede wrote:

WhiskyKilo wrote:

soonerswede wrote: I guess the sacrifice of three members of the coaching staff is not enough to satisfy the monster and his apetite must be quelled.  Yes, Kish must go.  The monster demands it and you must feed the monster.  The angry mob rules.  Someone must pay dearly for not meeting the feral needs of the crowd.  We offer no proof or knowledge about the subject, but we demand that someone must pay.  Kish is the source of all our problems.  He must be because the gurus of recruitment the godlike Murdoch and those of his ilk have not been singing the praises of Kish's accomplishments.  We should all be singing songs of joy and celebration to the destroying of the heretic as he is sacrificed to the angry mob to appease the monster.  Yes, it is Kish who is the source of our pain.  If it turns out that it is not Kish, we still have Wright to offer to the monster.  Surely our commitment to the monster will be recognized and we will in turn be blessed.

To heck with accountability!  No matter how many games of 700+ yardage and 40+ points given up in the future, I hope Kish will always be guaranteed a job at OU.  Because it's the right thing to do.  I'm tired of these guys who are firing coaches just because of inconsequential things such as getting blown off the field in the Cotton Bowl.

Soonerswede, I'm with you.

No, I don't think you are at all with me.  I never once mentioned anything about accountability.  I simply pointed out that just because some yahoos on the internet have determined that one coach is to blame for the poor performance does not make it a fact.  When are some of you going to hold the players accountable for their performances.  Missed tackles, assignments, class attendance, attending meetings, more interested in the after game party than the game itself, blowing off off season workouts.  I don't think any coach deserves a guareenteed life time employment, but I would like to see some evidence that any coach is totally responsible for the Cotton Bowl performance prior to making a judgement.  Some of you need to grow up and leave your entitled dream world.  The Cotton Bowl was the result of one factor only.  A&M had a better team. Much better!  Some of you guys complain that the players and coaching staff feel like they should win just because they are OU, then you are guilty of the same type of belief system.  If you don't want to see repeat perfomances like the Cotton Bowl and/or the defensive meltdowns the solution is pretty simple really.  Get Better.

WhiskyKilo wrote:

soonerswede wrote:

WhiskyKilo wrote:

soonerswede wrote: I guess the sacrifice of three members of the coaching staff is not enough to satisfy the monster and his apetite must be quelled.  Yes, Kish must go.  The monster demands it and you must feed the monster.  The angry mob rules.  Someone must pay dearly for not meeting the feral needs of the crowd.  We offer no proof or knowledge about the subject, but we demand that someone must pay.  Kish is the source of all our problems.  He must be because the gurus of recruitment the godlike Murdoch and those of his ilk have not been singing the praises of Kish's accomplishments.  We should all be singing songs of joy and celebration to the destroying of the heretic as he is sacrificed to the angry mob to appease the monster.  Yes, it is Kish who is the source of our pain.  If it turns out that it is not Kish, we still have Wright to offer to the monster.  Surely our commitment to the monster will be recognized and we will in turn be blessed.

To heck with accountability!  No matter how many games of 700+ yardage and 40+ points given up in the future, I hope Kish will always be guaranteed a job at OU.  Because it's the right thing to do.  I'm tired of these guys who are firing coaches just because of inconsequential things such as getting blown off the field in the Cotton Bowl.

Soonerswede, I'm with you.

No, I don't think you are at all with me.  I never once mentioned anything about accountability.  I simply pointed out that just because some yahoos on the internet have determined that one coach is to blame for the poor performance does not make it a fact.  When are some of you going to hold the players accountable for their performances.  Missed tackles, assignments, class attendance, attending meetings, more interested in the after game party than the game itself, blowing off off season workouts.  I don't think any coach deserves a guareenteed life time employment, but I would like to see some evidence that any coach is totally responsible for the Cotton Bowl performance prior to making a judgement.  Some of you need to grow up and leave your entitled dream world.  The Cotton Bowl was the result of one factor only.  A&M had a better team. Much better!  Some of you guys complain that the players and coaching staff feel like they should win just because they are OU, then you are guilty of the same type of belief system.  If you don't want to see repeat perfomances like the Cotton Bowl and/or the defensive meltdowns the solution is pretty simple really.  Get Better.

I'm confused by this response.  Are you saying that the players are the reason they got blown out in the Cotton Bowl and not the coaches who called the plays and came up with the scheme?

Not saying I disagree, but which players were they?  Which coaches called a good game and had a good scheme vs. A&M, but were let down by the players?

soonerswede wrote:

WhiskyKilo wrote:

soonerswede wrote:

WhiskyKilo wrote:

soonerswede wrote: I guess the sacrifice of three members of the coaching staff is not enough to satisfy the monster and his apetite must be quelled.  Yes, Kish must go.  The monster demands it and you must feed the monster.  The angry mob rules.  Someone must pay dearly for not meeting the feral needs of the crowd.  We offer no proof or knowledge about the subject, but we demand that someone must pay.  Kish is the source of all our problems.  He must be because the gurus of recruitment the godlike Murdoch and those of his ilk have not been singing the praises of Kish's accomplishments.  We should all be singing songs of joy and celebration to the destroying of the heretic as he is sacrificed to the angry mob to appease the monster.  Yes, it is Kish who is the source of our pain.  If it turns out that it is not Kish, we still have Wright to offer to the monster.  Surely our commitment to the monster will be recognized and we will in turn be blessed.

To heck with accountability!  No matter how many games of 700+ yardage and 40+ points given up in the future, I hope Kish will always be guaranteed a job at OU.  Because it's the right thing to do.  I'm tired of these guys who are firing coaches just because of inconsequential things such as getting blown off the field in the Cotton Bowl.

Soonerswede, I'm with you.

No, I don't think you are at all with me.  I never once mentioned anything about accountability.  I simply pointed out that just because some yahoos on the internet have determined that one coach is to blame for the poor performance does not make it a fact.  When are some of you going to hold the players accountable for their performances.  Missed tackles, assignments, class attendance, attending meetings, more interested in the after game party than the game itself, blowing off off season workouts.  I don't think any coach deserves a guareenteed life time employment, but I would like to see some evidence that any coach is totally responsible for the Cotton Bowl performance prior to making a judgement.  Some of you need to grow up and leave your entitled dream world.  The Cotton Bowl was the result of one factor only.  A&M had a better team. Much better!  Some of you guys complain that the players and coaching staff feel like they should win just because they are OU, then you are guilty of the same type of belief system.  If you don't want to see repeat perfomances like the Cotton Bowl and/or the defensive meltdowns the solution is pretty simple really.  Get Better.

I'm confused by this response.  Are you saying that the players are the reason they got blown out in the Cotton Bowl and not the coaches who called the plays and came up with the scheme?

Not saying I disagree, but which players were they?  Which coaches called a good game and had a good scheme vs. A&M, but were let down by the players?

Don't know why you would be confused.   A&M had a better team than OU.  Better players and better coaching on that day.  If you can identify which coach or group of coaches did not game plan right, than give us that information.  So yes, I would say the players are more responsible for the loss.  After all, they are the ones who played in the game.  I watched our defensive ends continually get sucked inside and then get beaten on the edge by Manziel.  I watched our secondary miss numerous tackles and get beat deep.  The players failed to execute and got beat badly as a result.  I am not defending the coaching staff one bit, but usually a coach is only as good as the players on the field.  We have numerous players who would rather smoke a little weed than be commited to the team.  We have numerous players who evidently aren't dedicated enough to condition during the off season.  We have a lot of players who can talk a good game, but don't back up the talk on the field.  We had three senior defensive tackles that did not improve their game a bit in four years.  We had linebackers who continually disappeared from view.   When your front seven either can't or won't do the job then that indicates the playing talent and dedication is not there.   Before you jump on well it's the coaching staffs job to get them ready consider that we had third and fourth year starters at defensive tackle and linebacker positions who did not demonstrate desire, effort, and toughness on the field.