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U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:23 PM
U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
Please give us your OU top 10 based on this criteria--What impact the back had on the the program while he was here, talent, WOW! factor, dependability, reliability, pre OU and post OU success, Big time performances--I can only speak for the backs I saw play and I am 45 so...
Here's my list...
1) Billy Sims- It's difficult to imagine a more dynamic back, he had it all, shouldve been a 2x Heisman winner
2) AD - What can you say? Incredible talent, before, during, after his OU years, he is incredible.
3) Lil Joe- Just go watch his highlights-He made plays that couldnt be made-
4) Greg Pruitt- He was fast, and he was a playmaker-
5) Demarco Murray- Talented, fast, great-
6) Lil Q- Big gamer, lil guy--
7) Mike Gaddis- Ballyhooed HS recruit battled through injuries to out duel Barry Sanders
8) Demond Parker- Some tremendous games on bad teams
9) Marcus Dupree- Had some great games-what could have been-
10) James Allen- Super recruit had flashes of brilliance--
My apologies to Steve Owens, Billy Vessels, Clendon Thomas, so many other Sooner greats I never saw play...
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:42 PM
Re: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
LEXUSOONER wrote:
Please give us your OU top 10 based on this criteria--What impact the back had on the the program while he was here, talent, WOW! factor, dependability, reliability, pre OU and post OU success, Big time performances--I can only speak for the backs I saw play and I am 45 so...
Here's my list...
1) Billy Sims- It's difficult to imagine a more dynamic back, he had it all, shouldve been a 2x Heisman winner
2) AD - What can you say? Incredible talent, before, during, after his OU years, he is incredible.
3) Lil Joe- Just go watch his highlights-He made plays that couldnt be made-
4) Greg Pruitt- He was fast, and he was a playmaker-
5) Demarco Murray- Talented, fast, great-
6) Lil Q- Big gamer, lil guy--
7) Mike Gaddis- Ballyhooed HS recruit battled through injuries to out duel Barry Sanders
8) Demond Parker- Some tremendous games on bad teams
9) Marcus Dupree- Had some great games-what could have been-
10) James Allen- Super recruit had flashes of brilliance--
My apologies to Steve Owens, Billy Vessels, Clendon Thomas, so many other Sooner greats I never saw play... The Title of your thread should be changed to: Top 10 RB's that you have seen play |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:43 PM
RE: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
Peterson
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:56 PM
Re: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
I’m going to pick on your list. While the NFL draft is not always a good indicator of a college career it does have some relevance. Here’s some you missed. Beside the two you mentioned you left off there are three first round picks not on your list:
Peacock (you can pitch him because played more than one position)
Overstreet (top 10)
Sewell (probably not top 10, but should get votes)
Beside these you left off (NFL draft pick) Wylie (4), Ivory (2), King (3), Moore (3) and Fazande (2). Of these at least Ivory and King deserve some top 10 votes. Besides Vessels there are several 1950s era players that should be considered in any top 10 discussion.
You left off a probable top 5 in Joe Don Looney. Griffin, Gaddis, Parker and Allen are not top 10.
Last edited 2/18/2013 3:12 PM by SoCalSoonerOriginal
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Posted: 2/18/2013 3:04 PM
Re: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
1. Peterson
2. Sims
3. Dupree
4. Washington
5. Pruit
6. Looney
7. Owens
8. Overstreet
9. Vessels
10. Murray
I could easily replace Murray with King or Sewell, but he's on my list because of the scoring record. Horace Ivory was a hell of a player too. I aways liked Roy Bell.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 3:38 PM
RE: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
EagleGrowl3 wrote: Peterson
Everyone else agree 1000%
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Posted: 2/18/2013 3:52 PM
RE: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
1. Peterson
2. Sims
3. Washington
4. Pruitt
5. Owens
6. Vessels
7. Tommy McDonald
8. Murray
9. Overstreet
10.Griffin
No one else mentioned McDonald, but he was an All American, winner of the Maxwell and Sporting News Player of the Year Awards and a member of the Football Hall of Fame. McDonald never played in a losing game while at OU (31-0). He was a WR in the NFL, but primarily a RB at OU.
I didn't include either Dupree or Looney. Can't see how an all time top 10 list should include a player who quit the team early in his second year, or one who was literally voted off the team by his teammates in his second year. Potential is, by definition, what someone has not yet accomplished. Both players had tremendous potential, but only minimal accomplishments. Could they have been among the all time greats at OU? Probably, but no one knows for sure.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:00 PM
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Statisticaly...at OU....IT is Q! Best receiver ever. Refused to go back in against Wash. St. in order to break season rushing record. Score the only TD in the NC game against Fla. St. Burned his redshirt when the starter went down in 1999. I think most would give the crown to AD. Demond Parker anyone. He should have came back. Might have won the Heisman.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:04 PM
RE: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
1. Sims
2. Owens
3. AD
4. Dupree
5. Washington
and the rest.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:04 PM
Re: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
I'm specifically asking for YOUR list not your critique of mine- lets see yours---ooops let me get my foot out of my mouth, I just read yours--
My apologies!!
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--- SoCalSoonerOriginal wrote:
I’m going to pick on your list. While the NFL draft is not always a good indicator of a college career it does have some relevance. Here’s some you missed.
Beside the two you mentioned you left off there are three first round picks not on your list:
Peacock (you can pitch him because played more than one position)
Overstreet (top 10)
Sewell (probably not top 10, but should get votes)
Beside these you left off (NFL draft pick) Wylie (4), Ivory (2), King (3), Moore (3) and Fazande (2). Of these at least Ivory and King deserve some top 10 votes. Besides Vessels there are several 1950s era players that should be considered in any top 10 discussion.
You left off a probable top 5 in Joe Don Looney.
Griffin, Gaddis, Parker and Allen are not top 10.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:06 PM
RE: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
1A. Sims
1B. AD
3. Dupree
4. Pruitt
5. Lil' Joe
6. Gaddis
7. Owens
8. Q
9. Murray
10. Vessels
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:11 PM
RE: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
EagleGrowl3 wrote: Peterson
Everyone else I am going to argue with you for Billy Sims,despite playing hardly any at all his freshman year and not much his sophomore year and he played in an offense that featured 3 other backs Billy rushed for 4,023 yards on 578 carries for a career and a 7.0 average per attempt.AD was always the featured back when he played and didn't share many carries at all when he was healthy.AD rushed for 4,045 yards on 747 carries and a 5.4 average per attempt. Billy's stats at OU | Rushing | Receiving |
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| 1976 | 3 | 44 | 14.7 | 18 | 0 | — | — | — | — | — | | 1977 | 71 | 413 | 5.9 | 43 | 6 | — | — | — | — | — | | 1978 | 256 | 1,896 | 7.4 | 63 | 22 | 1 | 35 | 35.0 | 25 | 0 | | 1979 | 248 | 1,670 | 6.7 | 71 | 23 | 1 | 42 | 42.0 | 42 | 0 | | Totals | 578 | 4,023 | 7.0 | 71 | 51 | 2 | 77 | 38.5 | 42 | 0 |
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AD's stats Rushing & Receiving Rushing Receiving Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD | 2004 | Oklahoma | Big 12 | FR | RB | 339 | 1925 | 5.7 | 15 | 5 | 12 | 2.4 | 0 | 344 | 1937 | 5.6 | 15 | | 2005 | Oklahoma | Big 12 | SO | RB | 220 | 1108 | 5.0 | 14 | 9 | 50 | 5.6 | 0 | 229 | 1158 | 5.1 | 14 | | 2006 | Oklahoma | Big 12 | JR | RB | 188 | 1012 | 5.4 | 12 | 10 | 136 | 13.6 | 1 | 198 | 1148 | 5.8 | 13 | Career Oklahoma 747 4045 5.4 41 24 198 8.3 1 771 4243 5.5 42 Both were very dynamic backs and we were lucky to have had both of them play at OU,but to say AD and then everybody else is not realistic in my opinion.Billy's career got cut short in the NFL,as they didn't have the medical technology that they do today,and Billy played on some really horrific Lions teams in the early 80s.Despite that he still made it to the Pro Bowl 3 straight years his first three seasons.Had Billy had the chance to play a full career like the Walter Paytons,Emmit Smiths and Barry Sanders of the world I have no doubt Billy would have been right up there among the elite. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:21 PM
Re: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
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--- LEXUSOONER wrote:
I'm specifically asking for YOUR list not your critique of mine- lets see yours---
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--- SoCalSoonerOriginal wrote:
I’m going to pick on your list. While the NFL draft is not always a good indicator of a college career it does have some relevance. Here’s some you missed.
Beside the two you mentioned you left off there are three first round picks not on your list:
Peacock (you can pitch him because played more than one position)
Overstreet (top 10)
Sewell (probably not top 10, but should get votes)
Beside these you left off (NFL draft pick) Wylie (4), Ivory (2), King (3), Moore (3) and Fazande (2). Of these at least Ivory and King deserve some top 10 votes. Besides Vessels there are several 1950s era players that should be considered in any top 10 discussion.
You left off a probable top 5 in Joe Don Looney.
Griffin, Gaddis, Parker and Allen are not top 10.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:25 PM
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IF Dupree had not wasted his gifts, he would be number 1. For what time he played he is the best I have ever seen....What a shame  |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:26 PM
RE: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
Since this is opinion anything is valid, but I think one should explain a little -
I think the world of Q for what he did at OU. I thought Overstreet was very good. I see the point about Looney, but he was an AA and Q and Overstreet were not.
So, I can leave off Looney for his attitude and keep Q in the top ten, but Clendon Thomas was also an AA and probably would have been more than once, but he played with Tommie McDonald.
And going on absolute accomplishments (including, but not limited to stats) at OU and not PRO career or what ifs -
Billy Sims (more yards and better Y/attempt)
Adrian Peterson (just wonder if he had no injuries and a better QB, but that is if...)
Joe Washington
Tommy McDonald
Billy Vessels
Greg Pruitt
Clendon Thomas
Steve Owens
Demarco Murray
Quintin Griffin
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:37 PM
RE: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
Not top 10 but I wanna give an honorable mention to Demond Parker. Grossly underrated because he played on bad teams.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:44 PM
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RK | Player | Pos | Seasons | Yards | Att | TD | Y/A | 100Y | 200Y | 1. | Billy Sims | RB | 1975-79 | 4,118 | 593 | 53 | 6.94 | 20 | 7 | 2. | Joe Washington | RB | 1972-75 | 4,071 | 675 | 39 | 6.03 | 19 | 1 | 3. | Adrian Peterson | RB | 2004-06 | 4,045 | 747 | 41 | 5.41 | 22 | 6 | 4. | Steve Owens | RB | 1967-69 | 4,041 | 958 | 57 | 4.22 | 23 | 3 | 5. | Quentin Griffin | RB | 1999-02 | 3,938 | 744 | 44 | 5.29 | 16 | 4 | 6. | DeMarco Murray | RB | 2006-10 | 3,685 | 759 | 50 | 4.86 | 15 | 1 | 7. | De'Mond Parker | RB | 1995-98 | 3,403 | 579 | 21 | 5.88 | 16 | 5 | 8. | Stanley Wilson | RB | 1979-82 | 3,198 | 567 | 15 | 5.64 | 6 | 0 | 9. | Greg Pruitt | RB | 1970-72 | 3,122 | 422 | 38 | 7.40 | 12 | 3 | 10. | Chris Brown | RB | 2006-09 | 2,923 | 627 | 42 | 4.66 | 7 | 0 |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:45 PM
Re: U rank em ur Top 10 RBs in OU history
The RBs I saw play. I did not see Vessels or Clendon Thomas, but they have historical significance and legacy as OU greats. So, the top 10 I SAW PLAY:
1. Dupree
2. Sims
3. Peterson
4. Washington
5. Pruitt
6. Owens
7. McDonald
8. Overstreet
9. Ivory
10. Gaddis
But, when you talk a out the 10 greatest at OU, you have a formidable task. I don't know any other program that has this history!! Maybe, maybe Southern Cal....maybe!!
I can tell you this, Looney was unbelievable at points in his career as was Peacock (Elvis Peacock-he should get in just on his name), King, Brewer, Parker, Wylie,....shoot, even Earl Johnson before he broke his knee cap and Demarco Murray before he broke his knee cap and ruptured his patella tendon could have been a top 5! See, just too many great ones!
I'll go with my 10!
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:47 PM
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RK | Player | Pos | Seasons | Yards | Rec | TD | Y/R | 1. | Ryan Broyles | WR | 2007-11 | 4,586 | 349 | 45 | 13.14 | 2. | Mark Clayton | WR | 2000-04 | 3,241 | 221 | 31 | 14.67 | 3. | Juaquin Iglesias | WR | 2005-08 | 2,803 | 197 | 19 | 14.23 | 4. | Kenny Stills | WR | 2010-12 | 2,594 | 204 | 24 | 12.72 | 5. | Malcolm Kelly | WR | 2005-07 | 2,285 | 144 | 21 | 15.87 | 6. | Antwone Savage | WR | 1999-02 | 2,009 | 157 | 13 | 12.80 | 7. | Eddie Hinton | WR | 1966-68 | 1,894 | 123 | 12 | 15.40 | 8. | Corey Warren | WR | 1990-93 | 1,785 | 106 | 13 | 16.84 | 9. | Curtis Fagan | WR | 1998-02 | 1,689 | 135 | 13 | 12.51 | 10. | Manuel Johnson | WR | 2005-08 | 1,681 | 115 | 17 | 14.62 | 11. | Jermaine Gresham | TE | 2006-09 | 1,629 | 111 | 26 | 14.68 | 12. | Tinker Owens | WR | 1972-75 | 1,619 | 70 | 11 | 23.13 | 13. | Keith Jackson | TE | 1984-87 | 1,609 | 68 | 15 | 23.66 | 14. | Stephen Alexander | TE | 1994-97 | 1,591 | 104 | 6 | 15.30 | 15. | DeMarco Murray | RB | 2006-10 | 1,571 | 157 | 13 | 10.01 | 16. | Trent Smith | TE | 1998-02 | 1,525 | 164 | 16 | 9.30 | 17. | P. J. Mills | WR | 1992-95 | 1,520 | 87 | 9 | 17.47 | 18. | Albert Hall | WR | 1991-94 | 1,396 | 96 | 7 | 14.54 | 19. | Quentin Griffin | RB | 1999-02 | 1,337 | 169 | 7 | 7.91 | 20. | Travis Wilson | WR | 2002-05 | 1,300 | 104 | 17 | 12.50 | 21. | Derrick Shepard | WR | 1983-86 | 1,237 | 76 | 8 | 16.28 | 22. | Josh Norman | WR | 1998-01 | 1,177 | 103 | 7 | 11.43 | 23. | Brandon Jones | WR | 2001-04 | 1,174 | 80 | 14 | 14.68 | 24. | Buster Rhymes | WR | 1980-84 | 1,118 | 50 | 6 | 22.36 | 25. | Ben Hart | TE | 1964-66 | 1,080 | 59 | 7 | 18.31 | 26. | Will Peoples | WR | 2000-04 | 1,076 | 82 | | 13.12 | 27. | Jarrail Jackson | WR | 1995-99 | 1,040 | 77 | 8 | 13.51 | NR. | Jaz Reynolds | WR | 2009-11 | 971 | 54 | 5 | 17.98 | NR. | Jalen Saunders | WR | 2012 | 829 | 62 | 3 | 13.37 | NR. | Sterling Shepard | WR | 2012 | 621 | 45 | 3 | 13.80 | NR. | Trey Millard | RB | 2010-12 | 599 | 59 | 6 | 10.15 |  |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:50 PM
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1. | Landry Jones | 2008-12 | 16,271 | 2315 | 7.03 | 126 | - 375 | 16,646 | | 2. | Sam Bradford | 2006-09 | 8,439 | 938 | 9.00 | 93 | 36 | 8,403 | | 3. | Jason White | 1999-04 | 7,877 | 1114 | 7.07 | 83 | - 45 | 7,922 | | 4. | Josh Heupel | 1999-00 | 7,522 | 1162 | 6.47 | 65 | 66 | 7,456 | | 5. | Cale Gundy | 1990-93 | 6,909 | 1112 | 6.21 | 56 | 223 | 6,686 | | 6. | Jamelle Holieway | 1985-88 | 5,143 | 796 | 6.46 | 54 | 2,713 | 2,430 | | 7. | Jack Mildren | 1969-71 | 5,117 | 899 | 5.69 | 56 | 2,025 | 3,092 | | 8. | Nate Hybl | 1999-02 | 5,074 | 942 | 5.39 | 45 | - 17 | 5,091 | | 9. | Bob Warmack | 1966-68 | 4,723 | 805 | 5.87 | 35 | 979 | 3,744 | | 10. | Steve Davis | 1972-75 | 4,160 | 749 | 5.55 | 55 | 2,124 | 2,036 | | 11. | Billy Sims | 1975-79 | 4,118 | 593 | 6.94 | 53 | 4,118 | 0 | | 12. | Joe Washington | 1972-75 | 4,111 | 680 | 6.05 | 40 | 4,071 | 40 | | 13. | Steve Owens | 1967-69 | 4,109 | 964 | 4.26 | 60 | 4,041 | 68 | | 14. | Adrian Peterson | 2004-06 | 4,045 | 749 | 5.40 | 41 | 4,045 | 0 | | 15. | Quentin Griffin | 1999-02 | 3,938 | 744 | 5.29 | 44 | 3,938 | 0 | | 16. | DeMarco Murray | 2006-10 | 3,685 | 759 | 4.86 | 50 | 3,685 | 0 | | 17. | J. C. Watts | 1976-80 | 3,605 | 583 | 6.18 | 44 | 1,524 | 2,081 | | 18. | Eric Moore | 1994-98 | 3,444 | 615 | 5.60 | 22 | 769 | 2,675 | | 19. | Paul Thompson | 2002-06 | 3,430 | 515 | 6.66 | 29 | 335 | 3,095 | |
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