Would you be opposed to Chuck Long as the TE/FB coach for the Sooners?

I would rather have someone with experience playing or coaching one of those positions.

Personally, I'd like us to comb the country and get the best, energetic coach that we can get with a great track record or both coaching and recruiting.

Whoever we get, it has to be someone that is comfortable and compatible with our system

shiftysooner wrote: Whoever we get, it has to be someone that is comfortable and compatible with our system

That sounds like Chuck Long

Please NO!!! Not chuck 3rdand Long. Bob "encouraged" him to take the sandiego st job. From which he was fired.
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Would you be opposed to Chuck Long as the TE/FB coach for the Sooners?

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bozzzz44 wrote: Please NO!!! Not chuck 3rdand Long. Bob "encouraged" him to take the sandiego st job. From which he was fired.
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Bob has a stellar record with ex-assistants that became head coaches and were fired.  Leach, Mangino, Long, and M. Stoops.  Wilson and Sumlin to follow?    Did I forget any?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

If I could majically bring one coach back to help us it would be http://www.bengals.com/team/co...ef-2a8868c3ca7d TES/Special teams were never better. I often wonder what kind of head coach/ recruiter he would be. Be sure and click MORE at bottom of page.

Tight Ends Experience: 10 Bio Jonathan Hayes, an NFL tight end for 12 seasons, returns for his 10th year as Bengals tight ends coach in 2012. Last season, Hayes continued the development of second-year tight end Jermaine Gresham, Cincinnati’s No. 1 draft pick in 2010, who immediately became one of QB Andy Dalton’s most reliable targets. He finished the season 56-for-595 receiving with six TDs, while also continuing to develop into a productive run-blocker. He earned a spot on the AFC roster in the Pro Bowl. Jonathan Hayes, an NFL tight end for 12 seasons, returns for his 10th year as Bengals tight ends coach in 2012. Last season, Hayes continued the development of second-year tight end Jermaine Gresham, Cincinnati’s No. 1 draft pick in 2010, who immediately became one of QB Andy Dalton’s most reliable targets. He finished the season 56-for-595 receiving with six TDs, while also continuing to develop into a productive run-blocker. He earned a spot on the AFC roster in the Pro Bowl. Despite battling injuries which caused him to miss two games, Gresham’s 2011 numbers topped those of his rookie season, when his 52 catches tied for the lead among AFC rookies and tied for third among NFL rookies. His 2010 total was a Bengals rookie TE record, besting the mark of 44 set by Tony McGee in 1993, and he tied teammate Jordan Shipley for the most catches by any Bengals rookie since 1985. Added to the mix at tight end in 2011 were veteran Donald Lee and rookie free agent Colin Cochart. Lee, who won a Super Bowl with Green Bay in 2010, made some significant contributions though he was limited by injuries. Cochart, from South Dakota State, was the only Bengals 2011 college free agent signee to make the opening day roster, and under Hayes he developed steadily throughout the season, playing in 10 games with three starts. Together, the TEs contributed to the run-blocking effort in 2011 that propelled RB Cedric Benson over 1000 yards rushing for the third straight season. Benson finished with 1067 yards on the ground. In addition, they aided a pass-blocking effort that ranked tied for fourth in the NFL in fewest sacks allowed (25). And twice since 2005, the tight ends’ blocking has helped Cincinnati set a club record for fewest sacks allowed. A record of 21 was set in 2005, and that mark was rewritten at 17 in ’07. Prior to joining the Bengals, Hayes spent four years (1999-2002) at the University of Oklahoma as tight ends coach and special teams coordinator. He helped the Sooners to a four-year record of 44-9, including a 13-0 mark in 2000 for the NCAA championship. Under Hayes’s tutelage, tight end Trent Smith finished his Oklahoma career in 2002 as the school’s No. 2 all-time receiver, with 148 catches. Also in 2002, Sooners special teams blocked seven kicks and had three punt returns for TDs. Hayes began his NFL playing career in 1985 with the Kansas City Chiefs, as a second-round draft pick out of Iowa. He played for the Chiefs through 1993, serving as a team captain, and closed his NFL career with three seasons in Pittsburgh (’94-96). He had 153 career receptions for 1718 yards with 13 TDs. He saw action in 184 NFL games with 122 starts, and he played all 16 games in each of his final six seasons. He played in three AFC Championship games and a Super Bowl (for Pittsburgh vs. Dallas in SB XXX). At the University of Iowa, he earned first-team All-America honors as a senior TE and was a team captain. He holds a degree from Iowa in general studies. Hayes’s older brother, Jay, is Bengals defensive line coach. Hayes’s hometown is South Fayette, Pa. He attended South Fayette High School. He and his wife have four children. PLAYING AND COACHING HISTORY - 1981-84: Played linebacker and tight end at Iowa. 1985-93: NFL tight end, Kansas City Chiefs. 1994-96: NFL tight end, Pittsburgh Steelers. 1999-2002: Assistant coach (AC), Univ. of Oklahoma. 2003-present: AC, Bengals.

cccasooner2 wrote:

bozzzz44 wrote: Please NO!!! Not chuck 3rdand Long. Bob "encouraged" him to take the sandiego st job. From which he was fired.
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--- KhalDrogo wrote:

Would you be opposed to Chuck Long as the TE/FB coach for the Sooners?

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Bob has a stellar record with ex-assistants that became head coaches and were fired.  Leach, Mangino, Long, and M. Stoops.  Wilson and Sumlin to follow?    Did I forget any?

Wilson will probably be added to that list because Indiana is the KU of the Big 10. Great BB, but dead end for FB coaches. Right now it sure as heck looks like Sumlin will be around for awhile

seems to me that if Heuple and Norvell are going to be in charge of the offense they don't need Long or Mangino anywhere close by and having people wondering.... if one of these guys was in charge I bet we'd be doing this or that instead of what we are doing.

Funny all of the people that would take Mangino back in a heart beat (even though he is running short of those), but would not even think about taking Long back.

Long does not have near the baggage that Mangino has.  Was also part of the 2000 NC staff.  Coached JH to a heisman runner up, made Hybl a decent QB, and coached JW to a heisman in Longs offense.  An offense that took OU to two NC games, set new records, saw AD run for a freshman record and a heisman runner up, etc.

Just saying.

I prefer a TE/special teams coach. BJW will retire Sooner than later, and he did a great job with OU's special teams this year, (his DE performance went south somewhat so DE/special teams coach, may ask too much from any one coach). However, after he's gone, OU should be able to find a great TE/special teams coach. IMO, FB should be Gundy's guys. All of them have running and pass receiving responsibilities.

Not only was he fired,his replacement actually had a winning season.Noooooooooo Chuck Long.

Would be great to find a young energetic TE coach who has some coaching experience and possibly some NFL playing experience.  A coach that has already served his GA time and is coaching somewhere else that can be brought in.  Fresh blood.  A guy who could relate to our guys and attract new recruits.  Experience playing and coaching, IMHO that's what we need.

jakebrakes wrote: Would be great to find a young energetic TE coach who has some coaching experience and possibly some NFL playing experience.  A coach that has already served his GA time and is coaching somewhere else that can be brought in.  Fresh blood.  A guy who could relate to our guys and attract new recruits.  Experience playing and coaching, IMHO that's what we need.

I just brought up Chuck Long because I think it would be a good fit.

However I think OU's TE/FB coach will be the guy at Houston currently holding the same position.

Jamie Christian

Houston Inside Receivers Coach & Spec. Teams Coordinator Years at School: 2 Bio   High School: Milpitas High School, 1990 College: Central Washington University , 1999

Let Bill Bedenbaugh do the picking..

I'd like to have cincys Dline coach.