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Nostalgia: OU Football Recession / Going into Football Cliff

Posted: 1/10/2013 9:50 AM

Nostalgia: OU Football Recession / Going into Football Cliff 


I am a grandparent now and kinda old I suppose

I remember as a kid listening to brooks and trips I think - the whole jimminy Christmas thing - on radio when I was a kid.

Hooked.

OU 63 - Kansas 7 / OU 50 - anyone 3


Just bought into the us against the world mentality.

Could not wait to figure out when the Sooners were playing, tune the radio (yes kids ESPN was not around)

They were rarely on TV. The OU /Texas and Nebraska and Orange bowl was pretty much it.

It was a rite of childhood. Good old fashioned OU *** whooping.

World has changed.

Blake years easy to tune out - wasn't much press back then.

Today? It's in your face.

This is what you call a recession going into an OU football clif.

Need top brass to bail us out somehow - kick this downturn can down the road - hell - if thisncongress can do it

Nothing is impossibel
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Posted: 1/10/2013 11:29 AM

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invitation wrote: I am a grandparent now and kinda old I suppose

I remember as a kid listening to brooks and trips I think - the whole jimminy Christmas thing - on radio when I was a kid.

Hooked.

OU 63 - Kansas 7 / OU 50 - anyone 3


Just bought into the us against the world mentality.

Could not wait to figure out when the Sooners were playing, tune the radio (yes kids ESPN was not around)

They were rarely on TV. The OU /Texas and Nebraska and Orange bowl was pretty much it.

It was a rite of childhood. Good old fashioned OU *** whooping.

World has changed.

Blake years easy to tune out - wasn't much press back then.

Today? It's in your face.

This is what you call a recession going into an OU football clif.

Need top brass to bail us out somehow - kick this downturn can down the road - hell - if thisncongress can do it

Nothing is impossibel
I came into OU football in that era also. In addition to Texas and Nebraska, you usually got to see OU play USC, Ohio State, or somebody like that most years also as a non conference opponent. We seemed to normally play 3 or 4 games a year on TV but I did really enjoy listening to the Sooners play when Brooks and Tripps were the announcers. Great times out on the new tractor with a cab and radio listening to OU or while we were out looking after cattle.


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Posted: 1/10/2013 11:30 AM

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I was also going to say that the Schnellenberger season was parallel to the Dallas TV series season where Bobby was dead. It never really happened, just a bad dream.


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. . .

 

J. Wade Harrell Fantasy World

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Posted: 1/10/2013 2:31 PM

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I was born and raised on OU Football.  I had an uncle who played for Wilkinson in the 50's, and was on Gomer's staff in the 60's.  I literally grew up with a radio pressed against my year, listening to Jack Ogle and Bob Berry describing runs by Jim Grisham, Ron Shotts and Steve Owens.  Or Touchdown passes from Gene Cagle or Bobby Warmack.

I later attended OU with Kenny King, Thomas Lott, George Cumby and the guys from the Freshmen class of '75.  What a great period ('75-'79) to be at OU.

Back in the day. a team could only be on TV (and only on ABC) twice in a year.  We usually got to watch OU play Texas and Nebraska.  If they went to a bowl game, we got that one too.  The rest of the time, it was listening to play by play.

In all that time, I have never seen a team that had to try to scheme around weaknesses like we did this year on defense.  We do not have the atheletes on the team to run the Mike Stoops Defense.  Did anyone see a Rocky Calmus, or a Torrence Marshall out there?  How about a Derrick Strait, or a Brandon Everage?  Forget a Tommy Harris, or a Dusty Dvorceck, I did not see a Korey Klein or Corey Callens?

Whether it was misses in recruiting, or injuries, or guys leaving ... this was the least talented (or the most underacheiving) defense that I can remember in many, many years.  And, while I respect the effort guys on defense gave ... they just did not have 11 guys talented enough to perform up to the standards that are expected at Oklahoma.  There is simply no nice way to say it.    

Most of the kids who played were not Mike's guys.  He gets a little more time from me.  But I do think this shows something about the direction Brent had taken the defense.  Brent went for small, quick players to defend the spread offenses ... and, as a result, we could not stop teams like UTEP from running all over us, muich less teams like West Virginia or Texas A&M.  This team gave up more rushing yards in 2012, than the 2004 and 2005 teams gave up combined.  This is, without question, the weakest OU Defense against the run in the Stoops era.

Oklahoma is going to have to find 11 players who can defend the run, rush the passer, and have a defensive back in the same zip code as a receiver ... if we are going to be able to win double digit games next year.  It is going to be a tough job to get done.  But, that is what the "Monster" requires. And it starts with this signing day.  

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Posted: 1/10/2013 2:42 PM

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tulsasooner111 wrote:

I was born and raised on OU Football.  I had an uncle who played for Wilkinson in the 50's, and was on Gomer's staff in the 60's.  I literally grew up with a radio pressed against my year, listening to Jack Ogle and Bob Berry describing runs by Jim Grisham, Ron Shotts and Steve Owens.  Or Touchdown passes from Gene Cagle or Bobby Warmack.

I later attended OU with Kenny King, Thomas Lott, George Cumby and the guys from the Freshmen class of '75.  What a great period ('75-'79) to be at OU.

Back in the day. a team could only be on TV (and only on ABC) twice in a year.  We usually got to watch OU play Texas and Nebraska.  If they went to a bowl game, we got that one too.  The rest of the time, it was listening to play by play.

In all that time, I have never seen a team that had to try to scheme around weaknesses like we did this year on defense.  We do not have the atheletes on the team to run the Mike Stoops Defense.  Did anyone see a Rocky Calmus, or a Torrence Marshall out there?  How about a Derrick Strait, or a Brandon Everage?  Forget a Tommy Harris, or a Dusty Dvorceck, I did not see a Korey Klein or Corey Callens?

Whether it was misses in recruiting, or injuries, or guys leaving ... this was the least talented (or the most underacheiving) defense that I can remember in many, many years.  And, while I respect the effort guys on defense gave ... they just did not have 11 guys talented enough to perform up to the standards that are expected at Oklahoma.  There is simply no nice way to say it.    

Most of the kids who played were not Mike's guys.  He gets a little more time from me.  But I do think this shows something about the direction Brent had taken the defense.  Brent went for small, quick players to defend the spread offenses ... and, as a result, we could not stop teams like UTEP from running all over us, muich less teams like West Virginia or Texas A&M.  This team gave up more rushing yards in 2012, than the 2004 and 2005 teams gave up combined.  This is, without question, the weakest OU Defense against the run in the Stoops era.

Oklahoma is going to have to find 11 players who can defend the run, rush the passer, and have a defensive back in the same zip code as a receiver ... if we are going to be able to win double digit games next year.  It is going to be a tough job to get done.  But, that is what the "Monster" requires. And it starts with this signing day.  



The rushing yards allowed were due to Mike's scheme.
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Posted: 1/10/2013 3:14 PM

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The problem is you have shut down players like Demontre Hurst and Aaron Colvin as good consistent players. The others on defense are inconsistant or out of position often times. Why are they that way? coaching? talent? taking plays off? im not entirley sure.
You are only as strong as your weakest player. Im confident we will get there. The defense needs alot of work though.
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Posted: 1/10/2013 3:19 PM

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We're the same age.
tulsasooner111 wrote:

I was born and raised on OU Football.  I had an uncle who played for Wilkinson in the 50's, and was on Gomer's staff in the 60's.  I literally grew up with a radio pressed against my year, listening to Jack Ogle and Bob Berry describing runs by Jim Grisham, Ron Shotts and Steve Owens.  Or Touchdown passes from Gene Cagle or Bobby Warmack.

I later attended OU with Kenny King, Thomas Lott, George Cumby and the guys from the Freshmen class of '75.  What a great period ('75-'79) to be at OU.

Back in the day. a team could only be on TV (and only on ABC) twice in a year.  We usually got to watch OU play Texas and Nebraska.  If they went to a bowl game, we got that one too.  The rest of the time, it was listening to play by play.

In all that time, I have never seen a team that had to try to scheme around weaknesses like we did this year on defense.  We do not have the atheletes on the team to run the Mike Stoops Defense.  Did anyone see a Rocky Calmus, or a Torrence Marshall out there?  How about a Derrick Strait, or a Brandon Everage?  Forget a Tommy Harris, or a Dusty Dvorceck, I did not see a Korey Klein or Corey Callens?

Whether it was misses in recruiting, or injuries, or guys leaving ... this was the least talented (or the most underacheiving) defense that I can remember in many, many years.  And, while I respect the effort guys on defense gave ... they just did not have 11 guys talented enough to perform up to the standards that are expected at Oklahoma.  There is simply no nice way to say it.    

Most of the kids who played were not Mike's guys.  He gets a little more time from me.  But I do think this shows something about the direction Brent had taken the defense.  Brent went for small, quick players to defend the spread offenses ... and, as a result, we could not stop teams like UTEP from running all over us, muich less teams like West Virginia or Texas A&M.  This team gave up more rushing yards in 2012, than the 2004 and 2005 teams gave up combined.  This is, without question, the weakest OU Defense against the run in the Stoops era.

Oklahoma is going to have to find 11 players who can defend the run, rush the passer, and have a defensive back in the same zip code as a receiver ... if we are going to be able to win double digit games next year.  It is going to be a tough job to get done.  But, that is what the "Monster" requires. And it starts with this signing day.  

"Oklahoma... there's only one"


 
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Posted: 2/16/2013 10:54 AM

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OKShooter wrote: I was also going to say that the Schnellenberger season was parallel to the Dallas TV series season where Bobby was dead. It never really happened, just a bad dream.


Oh It happened.  My first year on campus was Schnelly's.  And I and those who attended with me will all agree... it was those Schnelly/Blake years that laid the foundation for a coach like Bob Stoops to have players ready for hell and back.  What you are seeing now is an end to that run!  It is sad, but I know Bob is one of the most competitive men around and I have faith.  Although, the Arizona hires and players attitudes really concern me about our future.  Either way, I know Bob is still making a difference and laying his own foundation.. so it is all good.

 

I just really hope the men who work on that team figure out how dam lazy they look out there at times.  It is sad.  Last season if Blake or Scnelly was coaching we'd have went on a 4 win season probably.  That should tell you a lot about how good our coaching was last season.  I personally thought the coaches did a lot with a bunch of guys who could have cared less at times on the field.

 

Boomer Sooner

 

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Posted: 2/16/2013 11:17 AM

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I work on a fund raising event with the king a couple years back here in Dallas

Switzer just has charisma

On stage presence

Honesty

And controversial

He was the reason OU won so many games in the 80's


I have not dealt with Bob but my perception is he is competitive quietly.

Hope he can win it all again but I think as long as Sabin is in Alabama and the new media teams such as Oregon and Norte dame load up on talent, it is no longer our term.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 3:29 PM

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Voices of the Sooners

Calling OU football play-by-play has been described as a dream job
by dozens of sports broadcasters past and present.


By Jay C. Upchurch


Photo by OU Western History Collections

it began simply enough with a single strand of wire stretching from the bleachers at boyd field across campus for eight blocks to a rather rudimentary hand-built transmitter located in the basement of a house at 426 west eufaula street. the date was october 14, 1922, and the voices carried by that solitary line told the story of oklahoma’s 21-0 season-opening victory over central state teachers college.

this first-ever radio broadcast of a sooner football game signaled the start of a tradition that has endured for more than 85 years.

maurice l. prescott, a waurika native and 1924 graduate of ou’s electrical engineering school, could not have imagined that his simple voice transmission equipment would evolve first into wnad—which became the university’s official radio station in 1923—and eventually a nationwide broadcasting network featuring dozens of radio stations that deliver ou football to the masses on fall saturdays.

while prescott went on to become an authority on shortwave propagation for the general electric company in schenectady, new york, he left behind a legacy that remains alive and well today. the distinguished list of subsequent play-by-play announcers and color commentators individually and collectively has contributed to the magical aura surrounding ou football.

over the years, names like walter cronkite, curt gowdy, john brooks and mike treps have kept sooner fans on the edge of their seats with various narrative styles ranging from animated eloquence to more calculated articulation. of the two dozen or so men who have sat behind the sooner microphone, no voice graced the ou radio airwaves longer than that of bob barry sr.

initially handpicked for the job by legendary ou football coach bud wilkinson, barry served two stints as ou’s play-by-play man—the first from 1961 to 1972 and the second from 1991 through the 2010 season. his familiar call of each sooner touchdown—“he’s at the 45, 50, 45, 40, 35, 30 . . .”—painted an oral picture that captured the listener’s imagination and brought the action to life.

“it’s a little intimidating when you look at that list of names. it’s lofty company to be in, that’s for sure,” says toby rowland, who was named the current play-by-play voice of the sooners when barry announced his retirement. “to have the opportunity to follow in the footsteps of men like bob barry, john brooks, walter cronkite and curt gowdy is an amazing opportunity. to say i’m honored and humbled is an understatement.”

in 2009, rowland was hired as the sideline reporter for ou broadcasts, which allowed him to work with barry and color commentator merv johnson.

“that was a great experience for a number of reasons, mostly because it gave me a chance to watch bob and how he prepared and handled everything that went into each broadcast,” says rowland.

during his 31 seasons as the voice of oklahoma football, barry called the action for three heisman trophy winners, countless all americans and more than 260 ou victories, including every snap of the sooners’ perfect 2000 national championship run. he was there when the sooners initially installed the wishbone offense in 1971, and he was still calling the action some 40 years later when ou football reinvented itself under coach bob stoops and a string of strong-armed quarterbacks.

“bob brought a lot to every broadcast in the way he prepared and called the game with such enthusiasm. he was a total professional,” says johnson, the former assistant head coach who has served as ou’s director of football operations since 1998. “we had a lot of fun together over the years.”

a member of the ou coaching staff from 1979-97, johnson continues to add an insider’s expertise to rowland’s broadcasts. but he was only one of several color analysts who served along-side barry over the years. treps, bill bryan, jack ogle and johnny keith preceded johnson in the booth and delivered their own perspectives that uniquely complemented barry’s work.

barry’s two successful tours of duty as ou’s play-by-play announcer were sandwiched around an 18-year term in the same capacity at oklahoma state. there he called the action for running back greats like terry miller, barry sanders and thurman thomas.

jiminy christmas!

when station ktok outbid wky for the ou broadcasting rights prior to the 1973 season, contract obligations with wky ended barry’s first stint with the sooners. while barry wound up as the radio voice on the other side of the bedlam rivalry, it took five years for ktok management to settle on a duo that would provide some long-term consistency for ou.

treps took over sooner broadcasts in 1973 and teamed with local tv personalities brooks and ted leitner for one season each, and with john snyder for two seasons. gary johnson arrived from houston and was given the sooner microphone for the 1977 season, but he did not fit into ktok’s extended plans. the door was re-opened for brooks and treps to start a successful 12-season run together, beginning in 1979.

“john and i worked really well together. some people might call it chemistry, but i think we had a great camaraderie,” says treps, who served as ou’s sports information director for 13 years (1979-92). “john was a great play-by-play guy, and i was happy doing the color because i was a full-time employee at ou and didn’t have the time needed for the preparation that went into every broadcast.”

known for his signature call “jiminy christmas!” when something big happened during the game, brooks fondly recalls his partnership with treps as “an amazing period to be a sooner.”

“it’s pretty safe to say that we were there at the perfect time. the football program was winning tons of games, including a national championship, and billy tubbs had ou basketball playing in the national spotlight,” says brooks. “mike and i had a wonderful run together. we were very fortunate to be part of the sooner network at a time when radio played such a significant role in sports coverage.”

during the 1980s, ou had the second-largest radio network in the country, broadcasting coast-to-coast on 70 different stations spread over 11 states. although the evolution of cable and satellite tv networks over the past 20 years has led to an unprecedented increase of televised college football, ou games are still being broadcast on more than 30 stations across oklahoma, texas, kansas and arkansas. additionally, satellite radio and internet simulcasts provide access to fans around the globe.

the golden era

long before the first satellite was launched into space, fans relied solely on radio broadcasts to keep up with their favorite teams on saturdays. the vision of maurice prescott and others involved in ou’s electrical engineering department helped deliver sooner football to the masses dating back to the 1920s.

while many of the voices behind those early radio broadcasts were not well documented, some famous names have described ou football action—including cronkite and gowdy—who both went on to become legendary national television and radio personalities.

prior to the 1937 season, wky enthusiastically promoted its new radio broadcast team of cronkite, wray dudley and former ou all-sports star tom churchill. while cronkite, just 21 at the time, lasted only one season, he established a foundation for a career as the most distinguished news anchorman in television—even if he did not realize it then.

“i enjoyed that year at ou a great deal. it was just the beginning of oklahoma’s surge into national prominence. it was a very exciting season,” cronkite said in a 2003 interview. “but it never occurred to me to make a career out of sports reporting.”

another fledgling journalist on his way to fame, gowdy was hired in 1945 by station koma to call ou football and oklahoma a&m basketball for five seasons, making him the voice of the sooners when they burst into the national spotlight under wilkinson.

“oklahoma meant everything to me in my career. i can’t tell you how important those days were. they really set a great foundation for me,” said gowdy in a 2004 interview.

when gowdy took the job as the new york yankees radio announcer after the 1949 season, he left behind an ou football program that was one season away from its first national championship. even bigger and better things were ahead for ou radio broadcasts as sooner fever extended well beyond oklahoma’s borders.

wilkinson got it right

a handful of voices helped deliver the action of ou games during the 1950s, including hal o’halloran, john henry and tony george. bill bryan was the play-by-play man for both of the sooners’ national title seasons in 1955-56, and he remained in that position through the 1960 campaign when wilkinson opted to go a different direction.

the new man’s name was bob barry.

during the spring of 1961, barry and 13 other candidates auditioned for the play-by-play job during the sooners varsity-alumni game, each hopeful calling several series.

“to be honest, i didn’t think i had a chance,” says barry. “i applied because i wanted that experience, and i thought it might help me later on.”

but after evaluating the recorded broadcast, wilkinson called barry to tell him the good news.

“outside of ou winning the 2000 national championship, that’s probably my biggest thrill professionally. to have bud tell me that i was the man is pretty hard to top,” says barry.

all told, barry would hold the position for more than three decades. along the way, he was named oklahoma sportscaster of the year 15 times for his work as sports anchor at kfor-tv 4 and was inducted into the oklahoma journalism hall of fame and the oklahoma sports hall of fame.

“bob barry is an oklahoma treasure,” says ou director of athletics joe castiglione. “over this extraordinary era, millions of people have become familiar with our program and grown to love it more because of bob’s work and his fan-friendly style of describing the action.”

After serving a combined total of 51 years as the radio voice for the state’s two major universities, Barry turned over the microphone to someone else for the 2011 season.

“It’s been my dream job and my life for more than 50 years, and I wouldn’t change a thing,” says Barry, who turned 80 earlier this year. “Not very many people get the chance to truly do exactly what they want to do in life—and get paid for it. Of course, there have been ups and downs, but I can’t imagine doing anything else.”

There were, of course, some OU fans who found it difficult to “forgive” Barry for the time he spent at Oklahoma State. And like all radio play-by-play personalities, Barry had his critics. But through it all, there was one opinion that mattered the most—that of OU president David Boren.

“In my mind, there is no more outstanding broadcast journalist and sportscaster in the country,” says Boren. “No one represents the Sooner spirit better than Bob Barry. He has always had a unique ability to transmit excitement and enthusiasm to his listeners, and we are all grateful to Bob for his many years of dedicated service to this University and its supporters.”

Toby Time

Now the torch has been passed to Rowland, and while his hiring may have come as a surprise to some Sooner followers, OU officials have made it clear they believe he is the right man for the job.

“Toby’s spirit and enthusiasm for Oklahoma will make him an ideal successor to the legendary Bob Barry,” says Boren. “He understands our state, our fan base and our tradition of excellence, and I have confidence that he will uphold the values that make Oklahoma, our university and our athletics program so great.”

Castiglione also is confident of Rowland’s abilities.

“He is a talented broadcaster with a creative flare, and he has flourished in multiple media settings,” says Castiglione. “We expect him to flourish in this role as well.”

Rowland earned a scholarship to play basketball at Southern Nazarene, graduating in 1995. He has spent the past dozen years as a sportscaster at Oklahoma City’s KWTV-9 and hosts his own sport talk radio show on KREF in Norman. And while his previous play-by-play experience has been limited mostly to SNU sporting events, Rowland has thus far made a smooth transition into his new role, a fact that does not surprise Barry.

“Honestly, Toby was my choice all along. He’s a professional, and he’s talented, and I think he’s going to do a great job,” says Barry.

The biggest hurdle for Rowland as he further immerses himself in the play-by-play duties may be staying focused on the task at hand and not getting caught up in all the history and hoopla surrounding his new job.

“This has always been the No. 1 dream job for me. It’s the pinnacle, and that’s how I’m going to treat it,” says Rowland, a two-time Emmy Award-winner for his work in TV broadcasting. “I’m going to enjoy myself and do my absolute best to make Joe Castiglione, President Boren and all of the people who have put faith in me proud.”

Jay C. Upchurch is editor in chief of Sooner Spectator and writes freelance OU sports articles for Sooner Magazine.

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Posted: 2/16/2013 3:37 PM

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--- invitation wrote:

I am a grandparent now and kinda old I suppose

I remember as a kid listening to brooks and trips I think - the whole jimminy Christmas thing - on radio when I was a kid.

Hooked.

OU 63 - Kansas 7 / OU 50 - anyone 3


Just bought into the us against the world mentality.

Could not wait to figure out when the Sooners were playing, tune the radio (yes kids ESPN was not around)

They were rarely on TV. The OU /Texas and Nebraska and Orange bowl was pretty much it.

It was a rite of childhood. Good old fashioned OU *** whooping.

World has changed.

Blake years easy to tune out - wasn't much press back then.

Today? It's in your face.

This is what you call a recession going into an OU football clif.

Need top brass to bail us out somehow - kick this downturn can down the road - hell - if thisncongress can do it

Nothing is impossibel

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The first OU game I saw was in 1962. So, I guess you can call me Gramps; nevertheless, it was a loss to Texas, 9-6, and what made it worse, it came after losing to Notre Dame (media worshipped since the 1930s), 13-7; putrid, just putrid! I did not go to OU, but my brother did and, of course, HE WAS A SOONER! He got out in 1958, so you know what he got to witness for 4 years; 41-2 and 2 National Titles. And, of course, I got the brain washing and to this day, I love the Sooners.........it's legacy; I have NO CHOICE!
Although I'm an IU (Indiana) guy, I have a legacy to study the history of OU football, the phenomenal success of OU football and appreciate the unbelievable passion of OU's fan base. I recently responded to a question about who's the better coach.....Wilkinson, Switzer, or Stoops. As I was just a lad when I heard of OU football and it was bigger than life to me, I chose Bud Wilkinson. His record is magnificent, he recruited and trained players to practice hard, study hard and then enjoy the fruits of their labor on Saturday afternoons.
He was a true gentleman, a molder of men, and a genius on the offensive side of the ball. But, I'm going on and on non-sensically so forgive me.
I will say this as I end.....I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE OR WHERE YOU'RE FROM, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THE HISTORY AND THE LEGACY OF OKLAHOMA FOOTBALL, kids; Bob Stoops! In his very being, understands this and don't be surprised if he sets his face like a flint, now, and wins 3 or 4 more titles before he's finished!
Alias, PERSONAL EDGE,
Now, I'm McDonald 25!!
PERSONAL EDGE
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Posted: 2/16/2013 3:44 PM

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invitation wrote: I work on a fund raising event with the king a couple years back here in Dallas

Switzer just has charisma

On stage presence

Honesty

And controversial

He was the reason OU won so many games in the 80's


I have not dealt with Bob but my perception is he is competitive quietly.

Hope he can win it all again but I think as long as Sabin is in Alabama and the new media teams such as Oregon and Norte dame load up on talent, it is no longer our term.
No disrespect intended!...But you can't even compare Bob Stoops to Barry Switzer.
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