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Buckeyes In The NBA (2012-13 Season)

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Posted: 10/29/2012 3:21 PM

Buckeyes In The NBA (2012-13 Season) 


the old thread sucks and died last season..... I figure I'd start a new one for this season that I'll keep updated with box scores of our guys....

just an overview of some of our guys in the NBA...


Evan Turner - He's going to start for the 76ers. Not quite sure what to make of him yet.  He needs the ball in his hands to be most effective.  Yet, he's not good enough with the ball in his hands to run the team and the offense.  If he was the #10 pick in the draft, people would be happy with him.  He's an elite rebounder for a guard, he can handle the ball and get to the basket for himself or create for someone else, and he defend.  But he still cant shoot and struggles finishing around the basket.  I think the first 20-30 games will be huge for him.  If he struggles, I wouldnt be surprised if he wasnt in their long term plans and even potentially moved Nick Young into the starting lineup for him to help space the floor.  This is a make or break season for ET in Philly.

Mike Conley - Has quietly become a really really nice player for the Grizzlies.  With OJ Mayo gone this year, I expect him to take even more shots this season.  He finished 2nd in the NBA with steals last year (2.19 per game) behind only Chris Paul.  He's Memphis' best 3 point shooter at 38% last season.  He shot 86% from the FT line.  He's really developed into a solid outside shooter where teams have to respect his shot, something that didnt happen early in his career.  I think he is going to have a really really good year for Memphis.

Byron Mullens - At this time last season, I didnt think he could play in the NBA.  Now, he is likely going to be the Bobcats #1 or #2 scorer and their starting power forward.  There is no other way to put this.  Mullens is a straight up chucker.  There is no shot he doesnt like.  He's added the 3 point shot to his game this offseason and shot over 40% this preseason from 3 despite chucking up probably 4 or 5 three-pointers per game.  His rebounding has improved, but still needs to get better.  His biggest problem is, he is just an awful defender.  Bad players have career nights vs him.  He needs to put in more effort on the defensive side of the floor.  But there is no doubt he has the ability to score the ball in the NBA.

Kosta Koufos - A guy I've been high on for the past 2 or 3 seasons, thinking he could be a solid starter or backup NBA center that gives you 20 to 25 minutes per game, but he just needed his chance.  He's finally getting that in Denver where he will likely start and be part of a 3 headed monster with Javale McGee and Timofey Mozgov.  He's also show he can play some PF next to McGee and Mozgov.  Koufos is a solid defender and rebounds the ball very well.  Last season, he averaged 5.4 rebounds in 16.5 minutes per game.  Bill Simmons called him the Nuggets most intriguing guy in this NBA season preview podcast when talking about the Nuggets.  John Hollinger had him as one of the best bargain players in the NBA ($3 million per season) and David Thorpe has him as a breakout player this season.  Still crazy to think he's only 23 years old.

Jared Sullinger - Potential starter for the Celtics this season, but will likely play around 17 to 20 minutes per game depending on matchups.  He'll be asked to do 1 thing - rebound the basketball (a weakness for Boston).  He's best playing next to a guy like Garnett, who can help Sully defensively by protecting the basket and will also draw the tougher/bigger defender on the offensive side of the ball.  He should get plenty of open looks around the basket or mid ranger jumpers with Rondo as his PG and KG/Pierce/Rondo drawing so much attention.

Daequan Cook - Just got traded to the Houston Rockets in the James Harden deal.  He was going to be buried on the bench in OKC this season and will probably be buried in Houston.  It's a shame too because 2 seasons ago, he was very good in the 2nd half of the season for OKC.  He was often on the court in crunch time and hit a ton of big 3 pointers.  Now he looks like an end of the bench guy for this season.  He'll be a free agent after the season.

Greg Oden - Still rehabbing his multiple knee injuries.  It sounds like he still wants to keep trying to play in the NBA.  It would be great to see him sign with a team this season, but expect him to sit out the entire season and try to make a comeback for the 2013-14 season.

Michael Redd - Currently an unsigned free agent, which surprises me.  I think he would be a solid bench player who can provide scoring every now and then when asked and could be a solid veteran guy in the locker room.  I'd like to know if he's had offers that he turned down or if there is just zero interest in him.

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Posted: 10/29/2012 3:24 PM

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would like to see those guys go against another schools NBA players, i think they would be top 5 in regards to that scenario
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Posted: 10/29/2012 4:03 PM

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Maker84 wrote: would like to see those guys go against another schools NBA players, i think they would be top 5 in regards to that scenario
off the top of my head, I'd take Texas if I had to pick a starting 5 from a college....

PG - DJ Augustin
SG - Avery Bradley
SF - Durant
Bigs - LaMarcus Aldridge and Tristen Thompson


although teams like UCLA, Florida, UNC, and Duke could put out some nice lineups as well


Kentucky also has a ridiculous amount of talent in the NBA, but so many of the guys are still so young and unproven in the NBA other than Rondo and maybe Tayshaun Prince... but Calipari has sent a ridiculous amount of lottery picks to the NBA since he's taken over, but so many of them are still unproven at that level

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Posted: 10/30/2012 10:54 AM

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I'd take Kentucky, UNC, Florida, Texas and UCLA over the Buckeyes.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:09 PM

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if Oden had stayed healthy then i would take the Buckeyes. but alas, no.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 8:18 PM

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Sully about to check into the game and make his NBA debut vs Miami....

game is on TNT for anyone interested

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Posted: 10/30/2012 8:21 PM

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and.... a foul.  Guess Boston is playing Indiana.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 10:50 PM

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10/30/2012


Jared Sullinger - (Heat beat Celtics 120-107)
8 Minutes, 2 Points (1-2 shooting), 1 Rebound

Kosta Koufos - DNP
Mike Conley - DNP
Byron Mullens - DNP
Evan Turner - DNP
Daequan Cook - DNP


here's a video of Sullinger's first career NBA points..... a 2 handed dunk trailing on a fast break

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJnSGj6q-vQ

Last edited 10/30/2012 10:51 PM by BuckeyeBash22

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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:35 PM

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ET - the guys i like to listen to on the nba either love him or hate him - starting to get to the point where he's a stud or, some year's the #2 pick's kevin durant, other years it's evan turner
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Conley - in a golden era of pgs in the nba, he's just a step behind the top group
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mullens and kk - if you're tall and can run a litte you're the nba's answer to baseball's 40 year old southpaw
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Sully - gonna have to work hard - teams dont draft to develop - contracts dont allow for it - gotta get going now
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Cook - cant belive dq's still in the league - he'll get traded again before the deadline in 2013
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oden - bummer
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redd - first 2nd round draft pick to get a max -- and was never heard from again - would love to have seen lbj assisting him
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Posted: 11/1/2012 1:21 AM

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10/31/2012


Daequan Cook - (Rockets beat Pistons 105-96)
6 Minutes, 0 Points (0-2 shooting, 0-1 from 3)

Kosta Koufos - (76ers beat Nuggets 84-75)
30 Minutes, 6 Points (2-3 shooting, 2-4 FTs), 9 Rebounds, 1 Steal, 1 Block

Mike Conley - (Clippers beat Grizzlies 101-92)
34 Minutes, 7 Points (2-10 shooting, 1-4 from 3, 2-2 FTs), 3 Rebounds, 5 Assists, 3 Steals

Evan Turner - (76ers beat Nuggets 84-75)
28 Minutes, 5 Points (2-7 shooting, 0-1 from 3, 1-1 FTs), 6 Rebounds, 2 Assists


Jared Sullinger - DNP
Byron Mullens - DNP

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Posted: 11/1/2012 1:27 AM

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a couple picture of Koufos vs Turner in action and Cook with his new team....


http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=media%2Fgettyphoto%2F2012%5C10%5C31%5C155080131.jpg&w=699&h=899


http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=media%2Fgettyphoto%2F2012%5C10%5C31%5C155083374.jpg&w=598&h=898

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Posted: 11/1/2012 8:23 AM

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cmasbuck wrote: 
Sully - gonna have to work hard - teams dont draft to develop - contracts dont allow for it - gotta get going now

Couldnt you argue that the new contract rules (tiered by pick) actually promote drafting to develop?  In the past teams were paying sky high bonuses and salaries to rookier bench-level players.  So you either force minutes, or let them sulk.  

Sully is making just north of $1M.   Glen Davis, who hes often compared to, fair or not, is making $6M per.  

Davis isnt really fair comparison.  I guess you have to compare sully vs. a FA.  And guys are currently FA's because they want too much $$$, or arent good. 

Teams would be hard pressed to find a vet post player for that cheap (everyone overpays for post guys), and because of tiered salaries, no one is trading their young posts.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 11:19 AM

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that pic of Turner trying to block Koufos is weird on so many levels.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 11:24 AM

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Couldnt you argue that the new contract rules (tiered by pick) actually promote
drafting to develop?  In the past teams were paying sky high bonuses and
salaries to rookier bench-level players.  So you either force minutes, or let
them sulk.  they also had longer contract terms than today assuring them of more time to develop

Sully is making just north of $1M.   Glen Davis, who hes
often compared to, fair or not, is making $6M per. 

Davis isnt really
fair comparison.  I guess you have to compare sully vs. a FA.  And guys are
currently FA's because they want too much $$$, or arent good. agree - not sure that davis is the right comparison - though sully's career would do well to match davis - he's on his 4th team in 8 years or so, isnt he? but still 6 mil aint bad

Teams
would be hard pressed to find a vet post player for that cheap (everyone
overpays for post guys), and because of tiered salaries, no one is trading their
young posts. nope - there are any number of post/minutes guys in the nba making less than sullinger - jason collins (on the celtics) - pyrzbilla is another - given that the celtics are still built for this season i'd give (a healthy) chris wilcox' sully's minutes come april as he would certainly be better defensively - much more important in the playoffs - and would probably be no worse offensively than sullinger (which could stunt sullinger development)

probably each situation is different according to the player and team - sullinger would be assured of getting more minutes with a team that doesnt have the nba championship as a realistic goal
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Posted: 11/1/2012 2:10 PM

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cmasbuck wrote: sullinger would be assured of getting more minutes with a team that doesnt have the nba championship as a realistic goal
Isnt that the very definition of drafting to develop?  Hornets dont expect Davis and his band of misfits to contend with LA this season...
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Posted: 11/1/2012 7:05 PM

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let me play polemics too - your point is that davis is a developmental player?!
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Posted: 11/2/2012 5:00 PM

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cmasbuck wrote: let me play polemics too - your point is that davis is a developmental player?!
No.  They drafted the best guy available, knowing he will be even better in 4 years.  

EVERY rookie is drafted for development in some way/shape/form.  Otherwise teams would just trade the pick.
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Posted: 11/3/2012 1:12 AM

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11/2/2012


Kosta Koufos - (Magic beat Nuggets 102-89)
27 Minutes, 7 Points (3-6 shooting, 1-3 FTs), 6 Rebounds, 1 Assist, 1 Steal, 1 Block

Mike Conley - (Grizzlies beat Warriors 104-94)
33 Minutes, 21 Points (5-9 shooting, 3-5 from 3, 8-8 FTs), 3 Rebounds, 7 Assists, 5 Steals

Jared Sullinger - (Bucks beat Celtics 99-88)
18 Minutes, 6 Points (2-5 shooting, 2-2 FTs), 7 Rebounds, 1 Steal, 1 Block

Byron Mullens - (Bobcats beat Pacers 90-89)
31 Minutes, 6 Points (3-10 shooting, 0-6 from 3, 1-3 FTs), 7 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 2 Steals, 2 Blocks

Daequan Cook - (Rockets beat Hawks 109-102)
DNP - Coaches Decision


Evan Turner - DNP

Last edited 11/3/2012 1:13 AM by BuckeyeBash22

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Posted: 11/3/2012 9:55 PM

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Sully got the start tonight
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Posted: 11/3/2012 10:51 PM

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11/3/2012


Kosta Koufos - (Heat beat Nuggets 119-116)
14 Minutes, 2 Points (1-4 shooting), 4 Rebounds

Jared Sullinger - (Celtics beat Wizards 89-86)
30 Minutes, 4 Points (2-3 shooting, 2-2 FTs), 7 Rebounds, 1 Steal, 1 Block

Byron Mullens - (Mavs beat Bobcats 126-99)
32 Minutes, 16 Points (7-18 shooting, 2-8 from 3), 10 Rebounds, 1 Assist

Daequan Cook - (Blazers beat Rockets 95-85)
DNP - Coaches Decision


Evan Turner - DNP
Mike Conley - DNP

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