OSUtopia wrote: One of the most overrated coaches in college football. He left TTech because he knew his firing was coming one year from now. He extended his coaching career by another 3+ years with this move.

Mayb but I dont think so.

His wife was involved in a traffice accident that resulted in a death of an elderly man.

I think they wanted out of Lubbock and Cincy was the first good option.

LordBuckeye wrote: The guy is a legit coach and a pretty big name. Obviously Cincy is going after a different caliber recruit than we are. The Cincinatti area has always been the area of the state where our presence is the weakest. Any chance he steals a couple guys from us every few years?

No. Cincinnati is a MAC caliber program. They play in a stadium that about the same size as Toledo and Bowling Green. They lost to Toledo this season. The school is located in a crime infested part of Cincinnati. All of their coaches jump at the first chance to move on to bigger and better things.

The media in Cincy(namely Ken Broo) have this delusion that Cincinnati was on the same level as OSU. They point out that that two years ago Cincinnati and OSU were in BCS games. However, the Bearcats were destroyed by Florida and the Buckeyes won their game.  Brian Kelly, who was coach of Cincinnati even admitted at that time that UC could not beat Ohio State and Notre Dame for recruits, but would aim to beat Michigan and other B10 for recruits.

UC will fall even further into obscurity without big time conference affiliation. TT will have no effect on tOSU, Urban Meyer or really any B1G school. Cincy is not going to be able to offer anything to recruits without being in one of the major conferences.

          Not yet.  

ryecatcher773 wrote: Is his wife sleeping with a lot of Ohio High School AD's?

BuckeyeDaJuiceMan wrote:

Maker84 wrote: no, he has no Midwest connections and it's still Cincinnati.

His wife is from the area.

LordBuckeye wrote: The guy is a legit coach and a pretty big name. Obviously Cincy is going after a different caliber recruit than we are. The Cincinatti area has always been the area of the state where our presence is the weakest. Any chance he steals a couple guys from us every few years?

Cincinnati has never stolen a Cincinnati area recruit from tOSU or ND or an SEC school.

I'll say this. I believe that there was a coach that UC could have hired that would have made them reasonably competitive in recruiting with OSU.

That coach would be Jim Tressel.

UC, more than any other school, should have put on the full-court press to try and hire Tressel. That move, and that move alone, might have been transformative, bringing UC permanently into the ranks of the top teams in the country.

They blew it.

no tuberville won't, sorry

As a Cincinnati fan, I'd love to say yes but I just don't believe that to be true in my heart. The conference situation will hold us back from recruiting at that level. But I also don't think that he needs to beat out OSU for recruits in order to be successful. You could put together a damn fine team consisting of Ohio guys that OSU didn't offer who ultimately went to Illinois, Michigan St., Nebraska, Wisconsin, etc. over the last several years. With Tuberville's ties to the south and the hiring of Eddie gran from Florida St. to join the staff, I'm sure they'll also recruit the south very hard.

As a fan of both universities, I lack the big brother/little brother syndrome that the majority of others who are only a fan of one do.

Having said that, I don't think TT will beat out Urb for many, if any, head to head battles for recruits, but he doesn't have to in order to be successful.

Urb is a different guy when it comes to recruiting. JT was the type that would rather take the Ohio 3* or 4* rather than take a bigger chance on going OOS. Urb will go anywhere and everywhere to find the elite players.

This will open up a lot of players, and while there are plenty of other programs who will battle UC for these types, TT has the name recognition to sway his share of kids to stay home.

Last night's TTech/Minny game illustrated why Tuberville left. Tech was a senior heavy team that had considerable trouble beating MINNESOTA in what was a semi home game for Tech. The cupboard has been left bare because of Tuberville's poor recruiting. He got out because he knew what was coming.

Not to mention the fact that I saw a Tech team low on self-discipline. Kingsbury has a tough job ahead of him.

OSUtopia wrote: Last night's TTech/Minny game illustrated why Tuberville left. Tech was a senior heavy team that had considerable trouble beating MINNESOTA in what was a semi home game for Tech. The cupboard has been left bare because of Tuberville's poor recruiting. He got out because he knew what was coming.

Not to mention the fact that I saw a Tech team low on self-discipline. Kingsbury has a tough job ahead of him.

Ummmmmm...

Scout rankings the last 3 years

2012: 24
2011: 13
2010: 36

Tommy T had the 3 best recruiting rankings in TT history.

Didn't see the young talent last night or earlier this season. That must be the same ranking service that has had Texas so high every year......

However, lets say he does have the talent. What did he do with it?

NO not the top kids N.D. is the threat in that area.

ryecatcher773 wrote: Is his wife sleeping with a lot of Ohio High School AD's?

BuckeyeDaJuiceMan wrote:

Maker84 wrote: no, he has no Midwest connections and it's still Cincinnati.

His wife is from the area.

Good point.

OSUtopia wrote: Didn't see the young talent last night or earlier this season. That must be the same ranking service that has had Texas so high every year......

However, lets say he does have the talent. What did he do with it?

So TP didn't have talent when he was sitting on the bench behind Todd Boeckman?

BM didn't have talent when he was sitting on the bench behind Joe Bauserman?

Just because a guy isn't starting doesn't mean he's not talented.

I'll assume if some underclassmen that Tommy recruited step up big for Texas Tech in the next couple of years, you'll give all of the credit to Kingsbury for coaching them up. 

Huh? Any and all Texas Tech success traces back to Leach.

Just like I give Dantonio most of the credit for resurrecting the UC program, something that people like you probably can't understand......

OSUtopia wrote: Huh? Any and all Texas Tech success traces back to Leach.

Just like I give Dantonio most of the credit for resurrecting the UC program, something that people like you probably can't understand......

Being a fan of the school for more than 25 years, I'll give some props to Rick Minter for really getting it going. 

Dantonio did great work with the defense, but the program didn't really take off until Kelly came to town.

When did I say anything about Leach not deserving any credit???

Thats the point. You didn't bring up Leach at all. Kingsbury hasn't even coached a game yet.

I don't see Tuberville having much of an impact on recruiting.  Conference realignment I think will have more of an impact on Cincy recruiting than anything else.  Big East football is now nothing more than a mid major conference.  Not that it was ever that great to begin with, but it is absolutely nothing now.  That will have the biggest impact on recruiting in my opinion.  OSU and Cincy will not be competing for the same recruits anytime in the near future.

OSUtopia wrote: Thats the point. You didn't bring up Leach at all. Kingsbury hasn't even coached a game yet.

I don't see a point here.

Your first argument was that Tommy didn't recruit anyone and is leaving the cupboard bare...and then when that was proven false, you moved on to some moronic drivel about how Leach laid the groundwork, which was never even argued by me to begin with.

Try to stay on target.