zbforged wrote: LMAO.....Janin Marshall is not a WR. You ask anybody on this board and tell you he is an athlete playing QB. If you watched Jalin in the opening this year, you could see clearly he don't have the hands to play WR. Many passes went right through his hands the Shane Morris threw. Maybe Morris should have tossed the passes underhand I don't know, but the kid is not a WR period.

Shane under preformed at every camp.  Terrible at Grid Iron kings. Didn't get invite at Dallas (cried too lol).  Good 1st day at elite 11 the went to crap.  Shane has a strong arm...lacks accuracy.  Maybe under handed throwing can improve that.  Shall we remind you of the St Iggy game...hahaha.
 
7 on 7 drill  gives little insight on how a WR preforms in a real game.

Let us see how Marshall is in the slot with a bit of coaching.  He to my knowledge NEVER played WR before!  I am from the Dayton, Oh area btw.

OSUtopia wrote: UM still in it for Treadwell.

I could be wrong but I believe he dropped them in the past week.

Seriously, who cares?

It's them. Why are we even talking about them when it's still almost a year until the next time we play them? Talking about them just legitimizes their existence.

JohnCarrollBuckeye wrote:

OSUtopia wrote: UM still in it for Treadwell.

I could be wrong but I believe he dropped them in the past week.

Down to Ole Miss, Oklahoma & Oklahoma State.

BuckinDayton wrote:

JohnCarrollBuckeye wrote:

OSUtopia wrote: UM still in it for Treadwell.

I could be wrong but I believe he dropped them in the past week.

Down to Ole Miss, Oklahoma & Oklahoma State.

He saw Sugar Shane "throw" at the Grid Iron!

BuckinDayton wrote:

JohnCarrollBuckeye wrote:

OSUtopia wrote: UM still in it for Treadwell.

I could be wrong but I believe he dropped them in the past week.

Down to Ole Miss, Oklahoma & Oklahoma State.

Does Ole Miss just write out checks to prospective players? I have never seen a more mediocre program in on so many highly recruited players. I ususally don't throw the money/SEC rant around, but something is shady there.

BucksandReds wrote:

• They have a great OL class but the 247 Composite (All 4 big ranking sites combined) have their 5 lowest ranked commits after long snapper being mid to low 3 star recruits at WR or TE.  They will have a sick OL be decent on d but they can't get anyone at WR other than when they fight Akron, Bowling Green and Marshall for them.
• http://michigan.247sports.com/Season/2013-Football /Commits

Why is this a thread on this board?  Post this on Stadium & Main on scUM's Scout site or on the rivalry board.

You forgot that he also can walk on water.

Treadwell is still in the picture but i think the chances are low. The Elite 11 coaches were very impressed with Shane they said he needed to work on his checks downs and said he had the best arm. I'm sure just because your Ohio fans will you try to down play anything Michigan but thats okay thats something as a Michigan fan that i don't do i'll give credit when its due.

Yeah, I am sure that is why NFL coaches and elite 11 committee two days in a row picked the best 11 QB's, Morris did not make that list twice.
Nebraska QB Stanton was #1 both days on that list, and I will take that kid any day of the week.  Stanton helped guide his HS team to a national title last year against elite big boy California competition, he excelled against stellar California kids.  He was off to a fast start this year and had a big game at Brophy until injured.
Morris struggles against mediocre to weak Michigan HS talent, he cannot even dominate against mediocre Michigan HS talent, and was embarrassed against St. Iggy of Ohio.  Threw for a whopping 1400 yards last year, real impressive.
Go back and review the high 4/5 star QB flops from camps and the elite 11 the last decade, the list is endless.  OSU had one with Zwick,  Morris will be nothing more than another Anthony Morelli at Penn State at the next level, he will not be in a shorts/flag football camp environment with time to throw and no pass rush, that is the forum he excels in.  With pads, he cannot even dominate average Michigan HS talent.

MWolverines15 wrote: Treadwell is still in the picture but i think the chances are low. The Elite 11 coaches were very impressed with Shane they said he needed to work on his checks downs and said he had the best arm. I'm sure just because your Ohio fans will you try to down play anything Michigan but thats okay thats something as a Michigan fan that i don't do i'll give credit when its due.

OSU has every WR coming back Meshitagain fans....every freakin one of them and adds guys like Marshall, Gibson, and others.  Don't forget Marcus Baugh...nightmare for linebackers of the B10 down the road.

Look at the WR's we are in on next year....dayummmmmmmmmmm.  Don't forget we get 3 extra schollies back for the 2015 class.

2014 will be biggers than expected because of attrition.  There are 11-12 guys that could easily transfer.

If you Michigan College fans think we are recruiting well now just wait for the 2014 class. It's gonna be truly special.

Gotta love how scUM fans try to bash the Oline when we only lose one olineman from last season and had a very good oline class last year with another top 5 tackle being in this class.

zbforged wrote: What WR have you guys got lately that are so good? Combine that with no OL and you guys could be in trouble.....that is all.

          "that is all"?   Really?   You're never coming back to to spout your stupidity?   Drinks are on me guys!!!

zbforged wrote: LMAO.....Janin Marshall is not a WR. You ask anybody on this board and tell you he is an athlete playing QB. If you watched Jalin in the opening this year, you could see clearly he don't have the hands to play WR. Many passes went right through his hands the Shane Morris threw. Maybe Morris should have tossed the passes underhand I don't know, but the kid is not a WR period.

          Okay guys.   Sorry.   The drinks aren't on me.   Crap-for-brains is back.   I guess that isn't all.

LMAO didn't know the elite 11 was comparable to an actual game situation. Like Analzone says "some people are football players some people are camp stars"

MWolverines15 wrote: Treadwell is still in the picture but i think the chances are low. The Elite 11 coaches were very impressed with Shane they said he needed to work on his checks downs and said he had the best arm. I'm sure just because your Ohio fans will you try to down play anything Michigan but thats okay thats something as a Michigan fan that i don't do i'll give credit when its due.

LOL Brutus once again you show your ignorance. Morris missed 3 games and played the early part of the season b/c of mono. Yes he did struggle against St Iggy, but the talent gap between the two teams isn't even on the same planet. Its kind of hard to throw the ball when the defender is backfield during your drops. The team around him is terrible. Their is a reason that Shane earned his 5 star status based on his camp performances and potential. He has everything you are looking for in a pro-style set. It great that you continually write kids off before they even step foot on campus, receive real coaching, and mature. You claimed that DG was bust, but IMO he will be the best passer in the B10 next year. Continue making your delusional statements it will only continues to make you look foolish. 

See I can play this game too. EE you prize RB out of St, Louis will be a bust. Running around against beyond terrible white kids in the worst division in St. Louis. Yes, the workout warrior that can run a 4.4 in shorts that can't look over table will get snapped in half when he gets hit at the next level. See how easy it is to write a kid off before he steps foot on campus? The point is you nor me know how these kids are going to pan out at the next level. My guess is the QB (or any other player) that Michigan will grab in 2014 will be a bust in your eyes too. 

brutus79 wrote: Yeah, I am sure that is why NFL coaches and elite 11 committee two days in a row picked the best 11 QB's, Morris did not make that list twice.
Nebraska QB Stanton was #1 both days on that list, and I will take that kid any day of the week.  Stanton helped guide his HS team to a national title last year against elite big boy California competition, he excelled against stellar California kids.  He was off to a fast start this year and had a big game at Brophy until injured.
Morris struggles against mediocre to weak Michigan HS talent, he cannot even dominate against mediocre Michigan HS talent, and was embarrassed against St. Iggy of Ohio.  Threw for a whopping 1400 yards last year, real impressive.
Go back and review the high 4/5 star QB flops from camps and the elite 11 the last decade, the list is endless.  OSU had one with Zwick,  Morris will be nothing more than another Anthony Morelli at Penn State at the next level, he will not be in a shorts/flag football camp environment with time to throw and no pass rush, that is the forum he excels in.  With pads, he cannot even dominate average Michigan HS talent.

MWolverines15 wrote: Treadwell is still in the picture but i think the chances are low. The Elite 11 coaches were very impressed with Shane they said he needed to work on his checks downs and said he had the best arm. I'm sure just because your Ohio fans will you try to down play anything Michigan but thats okay thats something as a Michigan fan that i don't do i'll give credit when its due.

Sort of delusional like have a 1 besides MichiganNumnber1, you have not won a Big Ten title since 2003 and cannot even finish in the top 10 in a decade of years.
The 1400 yards passing was his junior year dufus, you do not even know his stats or ever seen him play like most Michigan fans.
Sorry, you cannot play any game, to use a line of Eddie Murphy from a 48 hours movie, "you are too stupid" to play games.
Go and google the last decade of elite 11 QB's and top 5 QB's each year across various data bases, most are flops and do not ever live up to their hype, the facts are right there dimwit.
Oh, the team around Shane is horrible mantra.  That is why they were ranked #3 in Michigan early on, kind of validates my Michigan HS football talent stinks in large part factoid, you just validated that with your igorance below.
Braxton Miller had no talent around him at all, and carried his team on his back his senior year to the D1 HS final against St. Ed's upsetting Ohio elite powers along they way, they almost beat St. Ed's late all due to Miller.  Morris could not carry his team across a bean bag relay team against mediocre Michigan HS talent.
Sorry, go look at Ezekial Elliott's offer list, BCS elites across every conference, that sort blows holes in your theory, due to the elite offers he had before committing to OSU over 12-0 Notre Dame, those other schools saw what OSU and Meyer did as well.
Elliott also had offers from Georgia, Kansas State, Penn State, Nebraska, Arkansas, Tennesse, UCLA, Wisconsin and those types from around 20 or more offers when he committed to OSU early on over Notre Dame, that blows your theory right out of the water.
Kansas State and Georgia competed for a BCS title game slot all year, and Notre Dame is in it, and they offered Ellliott early on and wanted him, those offers mean more than Michigan, who was never part of the BCS title game equation after getting embarrassed week one, and never been close to playing in one of them either.  Michigan does not count in BCS title talk issues, sorry.
Michigan is irrelevant and headed to five losses, and you have Chad Henne/Antony Morrelli part II headed to Michigan in cinderalla in pads Morris, congrats.
Three 3 current WR's Michigan has committed for 2013 you beat Central Michigan and Toledo for are slow and not athletic at all, no midwest legit BCS teams offered them, but somehow you will spin they are legit WR's. 
Meyer is slow playing kids like Corn Elder and the Stevens commit WR's, while he waits for James Quick's decision and has Shelton Gibson in the bag.  He told LaRue not to visit, he is playing chess with skilled athletes while Hoke is playing checkers with the rest of the Big Ten.

MichiganNumber1 wrote: LOL Brutus once again you show your ignorance. Morris missed 3 games and played the early part of the season b/c of mono. Yes he did struggle against St Iggy, but the talent gap between the two teams isn't even on the same planet. Its kind of hard to throw the ball when the defender is backfield during your drops. The team around him is terrible. Their is a reason that Shane earned his 5 star status based on his camp performances and potential. He has everything you are looking for in a pro-style set. It great that you continually write kids off before they even step foot on campus, receive real coaching, and mature. You claimed that DG was bust, but IMO he will be the best passer in the B10 next year. Continue making your delusional statements it will only continues to make you look foolish. 

See I can play this game too. EE you prize RB out of St, Louis will be a bust. Running around against beyond terrible white kids in the worst division in St. Louis. Yes, the workout warrior that can run a 4.4 in shorts that can't look over table will get snapped in half when he gets hit at the next level. See how easy it is to write a kid off before he steps foot on campus? The point is you nor me know how these kids are going to pan out at the next level. My guess is the QB (or any other player) that Michigan will grab in 2014 will be a bust in your eyes too. 

brutus79 wrote: Yeah, I am sure that is why NFL coaches and elite 11 committee two days in a row picked the best 11 QB's, Morris did not make that list twice.
Nebraska QB Stanton was #1 both days on that list, and I will take that kid any day of the week.  Stanton helped guide his HS team to a national title last year against elite big boy California competition, he excelled against stellar California kids.  He was off to a fast start this year and had a big game at Brophy until injured.
Morris struggles against mediocre to weak Michigan HS talent, he cannot even dominate against mediocre Michigan HS talent, and was embarrassed against St. Iggy of Ohio.  Threw for a whopping 1400 yards last year, real impressive.
Go back and review the high 4/5 star QB flops from camps and the elite 11 the last decade, the list is endless.  OSU had one with Zwick,  Morris will be nothing more than another Anthony Morelli at Penn State at the next level, he will not be in a shorts/flag football camp environment with time to throw and no pass rush, that is the forum he excels in.  With pads, he cannot even dominate average Michigan HS talent.

MWolverines15 wrote: Treadwell is still in the picture but i think the chances are low. The Elite 11 coaches were very impressed with Shane they said he needed to work on his checks downs and said he had the best arm. I'm sure just because your Ohio fans will you try to down play anything Michigan but thats okay thats something as a Michigan fan that i don't do i'll give credit when its due.

I agree with buckeyemark. The offense was all Denard the past three years and it is difficult to convince recruits that the offense will be different moving forward. Denard was a poor passer and terrible decision maker. Our WR could get separation this year, but Denard could not deliver the ball (or made the wrong read). 

The concern about WR is overblown. Darboh (from the 2012 class) will push for a spot in 2013. Funchess has already shown that he is a future all conference player and is more of a TE/WR hybrid. Gallon can run and really took off with Devin under center and should put together a solid senior campaign. 

buckeyemark wrote: Probably because their offense the past 3 years has been Denard Robinson.

Not really sure what the offense will look like now.

BucksandReds wrote:

• They have a great OL class but the 247 Composite (All 4 big ranking sites combined) have their 5 lowest ranked commits after long snapper being mid to low 3 star recruits at WR or TE.  They will have a sick OL be decent on d but they can't get anyone at WR other than when they fight Akron, Bowling Green and Marshall for them.
• http://michigan.247sports.com/Season/2013-Football /Commits

Again when you have no argument resort to name-calling. Obviously you are not too bright because your reading comprehension and writing is at a 5th grade level. Your posts involve typing random sentence fragments into a paragraph. Again I am going to type slowly so try to keep up.

I have repeatedly said that Ohio High School football is in another universe compared to Michigan. Comparing Braxton to Morris is apples to oranges. Braxton is a dual threat and dominates the college landscape with his legs, now imagine that in high school. Shane is not going to out run anyone. His WR other than the kid that has MAC offers, Jack Wrangler, can't catch. The talent gap between St Iggy and Warren De La Salle is not even close. You could put Michigan best HS team against Ohio HS team and the game would not be close. 

Again my point was that you can say anyone is going to be bust. As an example, I mentioned EE the RB out of St. Louis. I have seen him play probably more than anyone on this board. The competition he plays stinks. He has never been hit and is by far the best athlete in every game he has played in this year. How does that translate to college? No one knows, but he does have the measurables to play at the next level and with the proper coaching, maturation, and the right system he might turn into an All American. The point is that you have no idea what kids are going to perform at the next level. Lets wait until a kid steps on campus and gets an opportunity to prove himself before writing them off. 

brutus79 wrote: Sort of delusional like have a 1 besides MichiganNumnber1, you have not won a Big Ten title since 2003 and cannot even finish in the top 10 in a decade of years.
The 1400 yards passing was his junior year dufus, you do not even know his stats or ever seen him play like most Michigan fans.
Sorry, you cannot play any game, to use a line of Eddie Murphy from a 48 hours movie, "you are too stupid" to play games.
Go and google the last decade of elite 11 QB's and top 5 QB's each year across various data bases, most are flops and do not ever live up to their hype, the facts are right there dimwit.
Oh, the team around Shane is horrible mantra.  That is why they were ranked #3 in Michigan early on, kind of validates my Michigan HS football talent stinks in large part factoid, you just validated that with your igorance below.
Braxton Miller had no talent around him at all, and carried his team on his back his senior year to the D1 HS final against St. Ed's upsetting Ohio elite powers along they way, they almost beat St. Ed's late all due to Miller.  Morris could not carry his team across a bean bag relay team against mediocre Michigan HS talent.
Sorry, go look at Ezekial Elliott's offer list, BCS elites across every conference, that sort blows holes in your theory, due to the elite offers he had before committing to OSU over 12-0 Notre Dame, those other schools saw what OSU and Meyer did as well.
Elliott also had offers from Georgia, Kansas State, Penn State, Nebraska, Arkansas, Tennesse, UCLA, Wisconsin and those types from around 20 or more offers when he committed to OSU early on over Notre Dame, that blows your theory right out of the water.
Kansas State and Georgia competed for a BCS title game slot all year, and Notre Dame is in it, and they offered Ellliott early on and wanted him, those offers mean more than Michigan, who was never part of the BCS title game equation after getting embarrassed week one, and never been close to playing in one of them either.  Michigan does not count in BCS title talk issues, sorry.
Michigan is irrelevant and headed to five losses, and you have Chad Henne/Antony Morrelli part II headed to Michigan in cinderalla in pads Morris, congrats.

MichiganNumber1 wrote: LOL Brutus once again you show your ignorance. Morris missed 3 games and played the early part of the season b/c of mono. Yes he did struggle against St Iggy, but the talent gap between the two teams isn't even on the same planet. Its kind of hard to throw the ball when the defender is backfield during your drops. The team around him is terrible. Their is a reason that Shane earned his 5 star status based on his camp performances and potential. He has everything you are looking for in a pro-style set. It great that you continually write kids off before they even step foot on campus, receive real coaching, and mature. You claimed that DG was bust, but IMO he will be the best passer in the B10 next year. Continue making your delusional statements it will only continues to make you look foolish. 

See I can play this game too. EE you prize RB out of St, Louis will be a bust. Running around against beyond terrible white kids in the worst division in St. Louis. Yes, the workout warrior that can run a 4.4 in shorts that can't look over table will get snapped in half when he gets hit at the next level. See how easy it is to write a kid off before he steps foot on campus? The point is you nor me know how these kids are going to pan out at the next level. My guess is the QB (or any other player) that Michigan will grab in 2014 will be a bust in your eyes too. 

brutus79 wrote: Yeah, I am sure that is why NFL coaches and elite 11 committee two days in a row picked the best 11 QB's, Morris did not make that list twice.
Nebraska QB Stanton was #1 both days on that list, and I will take that kid any day of the week.  Stanton helped guide his HS team to a national title last year against elite big boy California competition, he excelled against stellar California kids.  He was off to a fast start this year and had a big game at Brophy until injured.
Morris struggles against mediocre to weak Michigan HS talent, he cannot even dominate against mediocre Michigan HS talent, and was embarrassed against St. Iggy of Ohio.  Threw for a whopping 1400 yards last year, real impressive.
Go back and review the high 4/5 star QB flops from camps and the elite 11 the last decade, the list is endless.  OSU had one with Zwick,  Morris will be nothing more than another Anthony Morelli at Penn State at the next level, he will not be in a shorts/flag football camp environment with time to throw and no pass rush, that is the forum he excels in.  With pads, he cannot even dominate average Michigan HS talent.

MWolverines15 wrote: Treadwell is still in the picture but i think the chances are low. The Elite 11 coaches were very impressed with Shane they said he needed to work on his checks downs and said he had the best arm. I'm sure just because your Ohio fans will you try to down play anything Michigan but thats okay thats something as a Michigan fan that i don't do i'll give credit when its due.

Never fear Sugar Shane is here!