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--- ForeignBockeye wrote:

No surprise on Bell.
That cat was gonna end up in the SEC no matter what.
Looks like Saban beat out Urban there.

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Yes he did

Weren't you the one with the report of an insider from the Vols board that had Bell to the Buckeyes like sometime around yesterday?

In case you forgot, I cut/pasted it from the Vonn Bell thread added it to the quote below.

Moral of this story: there are no 'insiders' on these forums.

ramatam wrote: All reports now are Bell to Bama...which if true is disturbing. 2 months ago it was Tenn.vrs OSU.

ramatam wrote (12/8/2012):

RE: *** Vonn Bell Update 

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Insider/mod on the Tennessee board says Vonn Bell to Ohio State on December 12th (his birthday). Says he has connections with the Bell family. I don't know much about the Tennessee insiders, but apparently this guy is pretty well respected on various Tennessee boards. 

 

FWIW

Imo Saban is the hottest coach in college football. He is playing in his 3rd NC in 4 years. I think you'll have some battles one by Saban and some by Meyer when they go head to head with recruits. Saban got the best of Meyer with Bell. I honestly don't think this kid ever wanted to leave the south though.

Urban better worry about Brady Hoke.

Now that is the joke of the year before New Year's Eve!  Nominated and won.
Hoke clogging up the visiting locker rooms toilets every other year is a bigger worry than his coaching ability, or lack there of as a 300 pound cheer leader on the sidelines.   Hoke is like 9 games above .500 as a coach. vs a coach with a 84% win percentage playing in the SEC a while, and FSU every year, and Miami twice as well.  Throw in two national titles, which is more than Michigan's or Hoke's .5 a national title combined in close to 70 years of football, good laugh.
You need to worry about Daddy Dantonio, he is going to spank Flounder Hoke's big lard back side again next year in East Lansing.
Now back to Ohio State recruiting.

zbforged wrote: Urban better worry about Brady Hoke.

Not, not good!!!!

zbforged wrote: Urban better worry about Brady Hoke.

Maker84 wrote:

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--- ForeignBockeye wrote:

No surprise on Bell.
That cat was gonna end up in the SEC no matter what.
Looks like Saban beat out Urban there.

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Yes he did

Don't see the basis for reaching any firm conclusion on Bell..... why not just take him at his word that he is waiting until after the Georgia HS playoffs to focus on recruiting?

its not always the head coaches.

kirby smart is sabans "ace" recruiter and is as good as anyone with the kids.

after watching both for several years down here in georgia i would rate meyer a better recruiter than saban and saban a better coach.

meyer one on one with a kid is tough to beat.

The players that urban won the NC were of questionable character. He can't recruit those kind of players at ohio because your on probation because of your ex coaches and players questionable character.

zbforged wrote: The players that urban won the NC were of questionable character. He can't recruit those kind of players at ohio because your on probation because of your ex coaches and players questionable character.

Looks like you learned a couple of new words and phrases today. Congrats!

zbforged wrote: The players that urban won the NC were of questionable character. He can't recruit those kind of players at ohio because your on probation because of your ex coaches and players questionable character.

why would you bother wasting your's and everyone else's time with that nonsense?

I think you shoud be on probation here for your questionable trolling

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The players that urban won the NC were of questionable character. He can't recruit those kind of players at ohio because your on probation because of your ex coaches and players questionable character.

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zbforged wrote: The players that urban won the NC were of questionable character. He can't recruit those kind of players at ohio because your on probation because of your ex coaches and players questionable character.

true, hope he doesn't recruit any more tebows in these parts. Guy is as shady as they come. Devil worshiper too

Let me play this game.  Fact no Urban Meyer led team has been placed on probation from any incident when he was head coach.  Fact a Brady Hoke team at Ball State was placed on probation.  Its only a matter of time that Hoke gets his team on probation again.

zbforged wrote: The players that urban won the NC were of questionable character. He can't recruit those kind of players at ohio because your on probation because of your ex coaches and players questionable character.

Hopefully that's understood by all participating in this discusiion. If not, this thread was doomed from the start.

stoptothink wrote: If coaches recruiting simply by opening up the Scout 300, this would be relevant. They are both excellent recruiters, obviously, to say Meyer is superior because he has a higher overall * average per player doesn't mean he got a larger percentage of the guys he wanted. 

QCBUCK wrote:

USMCBUCK wrote:

QCBUCK wrote:

It is fallacy/myth that Alabama hand picks their recruits. They have nice classes most years, but their average * (star) per player is not eye popping, in the least. Most of the last few years they are at or near the top, but by no stretch of the imagination do they separate themselves from other top programs.........including OSU.

Matter of fact, this year we are leading them by a pretty good margin, as are many other teams.

I went back over the last 5 years of recruiting, and found that OSU has had, on average, a higher quality player than Alabama, although just slightly. Also, our highest rated class during that period has been better than Bamas highest.

Last 5 years:
OSU = 3.71/recruit

Bama = 3.67/recruit



When I get time, I will do Meyer vs Saban, head to head and see what I find.

Interesting information.  I look forward to the comparison.  It certainly seems on gut reaction like Alabama just hand picks 5 star and 4 star players.  I probably just don't hear much about it when they add a new three star.

I went all of the way back to when Saban started at Alabama to this present recruiting class. First recruiting class was 2008. What I found was pretty much what I expected. Meyer's average recruit had a 3.80 star (*) average, and Saban's had a 3.67 star (*) average.

Take all of the different variables out (location, weather, etc), and Meyer is the better recruiter. Add them, and you can come to any conclusion you want.

Bottom line, Saban doesn't out recruit Meyer, but they're both very, very good.

Than what was the point of your post?

QCBUCK wrote: Hopefully that's understood by all participating in this discusiion. If not, this thread was doomed from the start.

stoptothink wrote: If coaches recruiting simply by opening up the Scout 300, this would be relevant. They are both excellent recruiters, obviously, to say Meyer is superior because he has a higher overall * average per player doesn't mean he got a larger percentage of the guys he wanted. 

QCBUCK wrote:

USMCBUCK wrote:

QCBUCK wrote:

It is fallacy/myth that Alabama hand picks their recruits. They have nice classes most years, but their average * (star) per player is not eye popping, in the least. Most of the last few years they are at or near the top, but by no stretch of the imagination do they separate themselves from other top programs.........including OSU.

Matter of fact, this year we are leading them by a pretty good margin, as are many other teams.

I went back over the last 5 years of recruiting, and found that OSU has had, on average, a higher quality player than Alabama, although just slightly. Also, our highest rated class during that period has been better than Bamas highest.

Last 5 years:
OSU = 3.71/recruit

Bama = 3.67/recruit



When I get time, I will do Meyer vs Saban, head to head and see what I find.

Interesting information.  I look forward to the comparison.  It certainly seems on gut reaction like Alabama just hand picks 5 star and 4 star players.  I probably just don't hear much about it when they add a new three star.

I went all of the way back to when Saban started at Alabama to this present recruiting class. First recruiting class was 2008. What I found was pretty much what I expected. Meyer's average recruit had a 3.80 star (*) average, and Saban's had a 3.67 star (*) average.

Take all of the different variables out (location, weather, etc), and Meyer is the better recruiter. Add them, and you can come to any conclusion you want.

Bottom line, Saban doesn't out recruit Meyer, but they're both very, very good.

OSU84 wrote:
Don't see the basis for reaching any firm conclusion on Bell..... why not just take him at his word that he is waiting until after the Georgia HS playoffs to focus on recruiting?

He what do you know, pal?  ESPN now has Bama "in the driver's seat."  Hopefully, this will last as long as when we were in the driver's seat.

LMAO  I'm seeing a trend....The very same posters who take Nevada's info and make it thier own are also the first to BASH him when things change with a recruit in real time.

Carry On Drama Queens.

Speaking of Nevada, is Jaron Dukes still with Michigan?

zbforged wrote: Urban better worry about Brady Hoke.

Why, is he covered in meat?