brutus79 wrote: Go check the first round DL and LB's Spurrier has had drafted in the NFL the last few years.
South Carolina was a top 4 defense in the country last year in total yards and points per game behind Bama, LSU and Georgia, and they are right there this year in every category as well in the top ten, and they play in the SEC and have Clemson on their schedule every year.
TAMU's defense is fast, real fast.  Everyone concentrated on Manziel in that Bama upset, TAMU's speed on defense gave Bama forced and forced a few turnovers as well.
There's a reason both South Carolina and TAMU are ranked in the top 10 and will open in the pre season top 10 next year, they are well rounded teams with speed on both sides of the ball.

87falcon44 wrote: Ya I wouldn't consider SC and TAMU elite SEC d's either.  They seem to have some good players on d here and there but both seem to have a lot of holes otherwise.

QCBUCK wrote:

brutus79 wrote: I would take Sanders in a second, watch his film, this kid can flat out fly for his size.  Incredible explosion, speed and closing speed.
SEC elite defenses like South Carolina and TAMU want him now, and Auburn is putting on a full court press.
If there is more attrition or transfers, and we can fit Sanders in and he enrolls in January and is here for spring ball, go for it.
He is a heat seaking missile, you cannot coach his speed or explosion.

JDBuckNuts wrote: Bill Greene ‏ @ BillBankGreene

Ohio State might be adding JUCO LB Tommy Sanders. He wants in, but things aren't done yet. Might take 24-48 hours, but he could be IN

South Carolina and TAMU is not what I would consider SEC elite defenses. They're no better than, and probably a tier below in most cases, than Penn St, scUM, Wisconsin, Mich St, and us. The B1G just doesn't look or sound as sexy as "SEC". Hell, the B1G has 9 teams rated ahead of TAMU in total defense.

brutus79 wrote: Go check the first round DL and LB's Spurrier has had drafted in the NFL the last few years.
South Carolina was a top 4 defense in the country last year in total yards and points per game behind Bama, LSU and Georgia, and they are right there this year in every category as well in the top ten, and they play in the SEC and have Clemson on their schedule every year.
TAMU's defense is fast, real fast.  Everyone concentrated on Manziel in that Bama upset, TAMU's speed on defense gave Bama forced and forced a few turnovers as well.
There's a reason both South Carolina and TAMU are ranked in the top 10 and will open in the pre season top 10 next year, they are well rounded teams with speed on both sides of the ball.

87falcon44 wrote: Ya I wouldn't consider SC and TAMU elite SEC d's either.  They seem to have some good players on d here and there but both seem to have a lot of holes otherwise.

QCBUCK wrote:

brutus79 wrote: I would take Sanders in a second, watch his film, this kid can flat out fly for his size.  Incredible explosion, speed and closing speed.
SEC elite defenses like South Carolina and TAMU want him now, and Auburn is putting on a full court press.
If there is more attrition or transfers, and we can fit Sanders in and he enrolls in January and is here for spring ball, go for it.
He is a heat seaking missile, you cannot coach his speed or explosion.

JDBuckNuts wrote: Bill Greene ‏ @ BillBankGreene

Ohio State might be adding JUCO LB Tommy Sanders. He wants in, but things aren't done yet. Might take 24-48 hours, but he could be IN

South Carolina and TAMU is not what I would consider SEC elite defenses. They're no better than, and probably a tier below in most cases, than Penn St, scUM, Wisconsin, Mich St, and us. The B1G just doesn't look or sound as sexy as "SEC". Hell, the B1G has 9 teams rated ahead of TAMU in total defense.

QCBUCK wrote: I checked South Carolinas first round DL & LB picks over the last 6 years (didn't go back any further), and found.....none. And while your facts about their defense the last couple of years are a little off, they have had a nice defense, so I will concede that to you, even though they're not noted as being an elite defense.

"TAMU's defense" and "elite" do not belong in the same paragraph, nevermind the same sentence. There's just nothing at all special about them.

My point, the SEC is not the end all/be all when it comes to college football, even though we can all agree that they are the best conference right now. A middle of the road SEC defense (TAMU) is no more impressive than a middle of the road B1G defense. The B1G has several more impressive defenses than TAMU.

Like I said in another post, I genuinely enjoy and appreciate your posts, but the SEC slobberfest has finally gotten the best of me, I suppose

edit: And, btw, your original point about T. Sanders is not lost on me. He's a great athlete that would be a nice pick up for us.

brutus79 wrote: Go check the first round DL and LB's Spurrier has had drafted in the NFL the last few years.
South Carolina was a top 4 defense in the country last year in total yards and points per game behind Bama, LSU and Georgia, and they are right there this year in every category as well in the top ten, and they play in the SEC and have Clemson on their schedule every year.
TAMU's defense is fast, real fast.  Everyone concentrated on Manziel in that Bama upset, TAMU's speed on defense gave Bama forced and forced a few turnovers as well.
There's a reason both South Carolina and TAMU are ranked in the top 10 and will open in the pre season top 10 next year, they are well rounded teams with speed on both sides of the ball.

87falcon44 wrote: Ya I wouldn't consider SC and TAMU elite SEC d's either.  They seem to have some good players on d here and there but both seem to have a lot of holes otherwise.

QCBUCK wrote:

brutus79 wrote: I would take Sanders in a second, watch his film, this kid can flat out fly for his size.  Incredible explosion, speed and closing speed.
SEC elite defenses like South Carolina and TAMU want him now, and Auburn is putting on a full court press.
If there is more attrition or transfers, and we can fit Sanders in and he enrolls in January and is here for spring ball, go for it.
He is a heat seaking missile, you cannot coach his speed or explosion.

JDBuckNuts wrote: Bill Greene ‏ @ BillBankGreene

Ohio State might be adding JUCO LB Tommy Sanders. He wants in, but things aren't done yet. Might take 24-48 hours, but he could be IN

South Carolina and TAMU is not what I would consider SEC elite defenses. They're no better than, and probably a tier below in most cases, than Penn St, scUM, Wisconsin, Mich St, and us. The B1G just doesn't look or sound as sexy as "SEC". Hell, the B1G has 9 teams rated ahead of TAMU in total defense.

Jeremy Birmingham ‏ @ RivalsBirm

RT  @ MarcGivlerBG:  # OhioState assistant coaches Luke Fickell and Mike Vrabel will be checking in on Tommy Sanders today  # buckeyes

Chidragon wrote:

Jeremy Birmingham ‏ @ RivalsBirm

RT  @ MarcGivlerBG:  # OhioState assistant coaches Luke Fickell and Mike Vrabel will be checking in on Tommy Sanders today  # buckeyes

QCBUCK wrote:

brutus79 wrote: I would take Sanders in a second, watch his film, this kid can flat out fly for his size.  Incredible explosion, speed and closing speed.
SEC elite defenses like South Carolina and TAMU want him now, and Auburn is putting on a full court press.
If there is more attrition or transfers, and we can fit Sanders in and he enrolls in January and is here for spring ball, go for it.
He is a heat seaking missile, you cannot coach his speed or explosion.

JDBuckNuts wrote: Bill Greene ‏ @ BillBankGreene

Ohio State might be adding JUCO LB Tommy Sanders. He wants in, but things aren't done yet. Might take 24-48 hours, but he could be IN

South Carolina and TAMU is not what I would consider SEC elite defenses. They're no better than, and probably a tier below in most cases, than Penn St, scUM, Wisconsin, Mich St, and us. The B1G just doesn't look or sound as sexy as "SEC". Hell, the B1G has 9 teams rated ahead of TAMU in total defense.

strandedbuck wrote:

QCBUCK wrote:

brutus79 wrote: I would take Sanders in a second, watch his film, this kid can flat out fly for his size.  Incredible explosion, speed and closing speed.
SEC elite defenses like South Carolina and TAMU want him now, and Auburn is putting on a full court press.
If there is more attrition or transfers, and we can fit Sanders in and he enrolls in January and is here for spring ball, go for it.
He is a heat seaking missile, you cannot coach his speed or explosion.

JDBuckNuts wrote: Bill Greene ‏ @ BillBankGreene

Ohio State might be adding JUCO LB Tommy Sanders. He wants in, but things aren't done yet. Might take 24-48 hours, but he could be IN

South Carolina and TAMU is not what I would consider SEC elite defenses. They're no better than, and probably a tier below in most cases, than Penn St, scUM, Wisconsin, Mich St, and us. The B1G just doesn't look or sound as sexy as "SEC". Hell, the B1G has 9 teams rated ahead of TAMU in total defense.

South Carolina is a pretty darn good defense.. certain better than Penn State & scUM... there are zero Clowneys on those teams.

brutus79 wrote: ESPN just reporting Sanders has OSU offer now, Fickell and Vrabel were at his home yesterday.
Interesting.

brutus79 wrote: ESPN just reporting Sanders has OSU offer now, Fickell and Vrabel were at his home yesterday.
Interesting.

csmittybuck wrote:

brutus79 wrote: ESPN just reporting Sanders has OSU offer now, Fickell and Vrabel were at his home yesterday.
Interesting.

May mean no Trey, but news seems good with Mitchell.

csmittybuck wrote:

brutus79 wrote: ESPN just reporting Sanders has OSU offer now, Fickell and Vrabel were at his home yesterday.
Interesting.

May mean no Trey, but news seems good with Mitchell.

csmittybuck wrote:

brutus79 wrote: ESPN just reporting Sanders has OSU offer now, Fickell and Vrabel were at his home yesterday.
Interesting.

May mean no Trey, but news seems good with Mitchell.

Ibetonart wrote: I say they take all three.  WHY NOT!

It is hard to tell where Mitchell ends up he is a 6'4 beast with SPEED and can line up in multiple positions.  MLB, OLB, DE, hard to tell.