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Re: texas am just gets commit #34

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Posted: 12/15/2012 6:00 AM

Re: texas am just gets commit #34 



CalBayBuckeye wrote:
strandedbuck wrote: Texas needs to part ways with Mack Brown. The Vince Young honeymoon has to be over.
his buyout contract gets a lot cheaper Jan 1st

To be more specific:

Date of Termination. Total Compensation. Number of Annual Payments. 

1/26/12 - 12/31/12 $3,500,000 (5 x $700,000) 
1/1/13 - 12/31/14 $2,750,000 (4 x $687,500) 
1/1/15 - 12/31/16 $2,250,000 (3 x $741,667) 
1/1/17 - 12/31/17 $2,000,000 (3 x $666,667) 
1/1/18 - 12/31/18 $1,500,000 (2 x $750,000) 
1/1/19 - 12/31/19 $1,000,000 (2 x $500,000) 

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Posted: 12/18/2012 10:30 PM

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Make that 35...just got Juco LB Tommy Sanders..  Didn't take long for them to fit right into the SEC.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 11:03 PM

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Speaking of Texas, they've just landed a 3* OLB from Kansas.

Haha should've recruited Mitchell from the beginning.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 12:33 AM

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Hahaha...so wrong.

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My son applied to both UT Austin and Texas A&M. It was much easier to get accepted at A&M by far.

Their approach to academics was to let almost anyone in the door and weed them out after their freshman/sophomore years with a minimum GPA requirement to advance to upper level courses.
Looks like they apply the same thinking to their football recruiting!

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Posted: 12/19/2012 11:36 AM

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Amazing. It didn't take long for A&M to acculturate to the $EC.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 4:07 PM

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There on pace to have 140 players. There is not enough jersey numbers by my math.

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Posted: 12/23/2012 9:40 AM

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thugger wrote: There on pace to have 140 players. There is not enough jersey numbers by my math.
A lot of these kids have no hope of qualifying.  They're sign-and-place recruits.  A&M used to do this a lot back in the FedEx Sherrill days (we did it a little under Mackovic).  They would sign kids who they knew wouldn't qualify, place them at Blinn JC (where Cam Newton went) just south of College Station to keep an eye on them and then take them later if/when they got their grades up.  It's SOP in the SEC and I don't think there is anything wrong with it.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:43 AM

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coopercougar wrote:
thugger wrote: There on pace to have 140 players. There is not enough jersey numbers by my math.
A lot of these kids have no hope of qualifying.  They're sign-and-place recruits.  A&M used to do this a lot back in the FedEx Sherrill days (we did it a little under Mackovic).  They would sign kids who they knew wouldn't qualify, place them at Blinn JC (where Cam Newton went) just south of College Station to keep an eye on them and then take them later if/when they got their grades up.  It's SOP in the SEC and I don't think there is anything wrong with it.
if one accepts that it's ok for kids to get a crappy education in high school as long as they are good athletes because their athletic ability will bail them out, sure it's not a bad practice.

i can see both sides.  it helps a kid in a crummy situation.  but on the other hand, it just perpetuates a negative system.  

we've all seen the stories of NFL players who can barely read....well, there you go.

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Posted: 12/23/2012 12:46 PM

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Well, the first part is 100% correct. The second isn't very accurate.

DallasAggie87 wrote: Hahaha...so wrong.

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--- OSU81 wrote:

My son applied to both UT Austin and Texas A&M. It was much easier to get accepted at A&M by far.

Their approach to academics was to let almost anyone in the door and weed them out after their freshman/sophomore years with a minimum GPA requirement to advance to upper level courses.
Looks like they apply the same thinking to their football recruiting!

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Posted: 12/23/2012 2:16 PM

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dirtysouthbucks wrote: 
if one accepts that it's ok for kids to get a crappy education in high school as long as they are good athletes because their athletic ability will bail them out, sure it's not a bad practice.

i can see both sides.  it helps a kid in a crummy situation.  but on the other hand, it just perpetuates a negative system.  

we've all seen the stories of NFL players who can barely read....well, there you go.
Some kids are good, hard working kids that come from terrible homes and bad schools and just need a little time in at a JUCO to get caught up.  Others are losers who know they're good at football and think that will carry them for life and they just don't care enough about their grades to put forth the little effort required for a good athlete to get into school.  I don't know which kids fall into which group so I'll give them all the benefit of the doubt.  

Where the sign-and-place strategy becomes sketchy to me is when these big programs essentially use the JUCOs as a JV team or minor league if you will.  They place the kid there, see how they perform and then force current schollie players out to make way for the JUCOs that they now know can perform.  I have no reason to speculate A&M is doing anything like that because it was not Sumlin's practice at UH but it does happen in college football.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 7:11 PM

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coopercougar wrote:
thugger wrote: There on pace to have 140 players. There is not enough jersey numbers by my math.
A lot of these kids have no hope of qualifying.  They're sign-and-place recruits.  A&M used to do this a lot back in the FedEx Sherrill days (we did it a little under Mackovic).  They would sign kids who they knew wouldn't qualify, place them at Blinn JC (where Cam Newton went) just south of College Station to keep an eye on them and then take them later if/when they got their grades up.  It's SOP in the SEC and I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

John Cooper had this down to a science w/ Fork Union in the 90s.

There's a certain kind of reassuring white rock....and some people do well with that.....
                                             Iggy Pop

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Posted: 12/23/2012 7:29 PM

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thugger wrote: There on pace to have 140 players. There is not enough jersey numbers by my math.
A lot of these kids have no hope of qualifying.  They're sign-and-place recruits.  A&M used to do this a lot back in the FedEx Sherrill days (we did it a little under Mackovic).  They would sign kids who they knew wouldn't qualify, place them at Blinn JC (where Cam Newton went) just south of College Station to keep an eye on them and then take them later if/when they got their grades up.  It's SOP in the SEC and I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

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Agreed!.... But what matters is what happens when some that you didn't expect to qualify, qualify!

Offering borderline kids (likely to be ineligible, but not guaranteed) should not be done - IMO. Nothing wrong with offering and placing kids who have NO shot at qualifying and obviously offering kids who are borderline to the side of probably qualifying (the ones your surprised when they don't end up meeting minimum standards)!
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