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Recruiting in New Jersey and Maryland
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Posted: 11/20/2012 10:03 AM
Recruiting in New Jersey and Maryland
What are people's thoughts on recruiting in the new Big Ten states of New Jersey and Maryland? How does the talent level in those states compare with the rest of the Big Ten footprint?
I went back and looked at the state rankings for recruits in New Jersey and Maryland from the past few years on both Scout and TOS. I guess I never realized how much top talent those two states produce on a yearly basis. In fact, I would probably put them directly behind Ohio and ahead of Michigan and Illinois in terms of producing talent. The only thing I noticed is that pretty much all of the top players seemed to go out of state and not to Rutgers and Maryland. I honestly think that if both those schools could put a fence around their borders that they could be top 25 programs. As a Big Ten fan I would like to see that happen so that the conference becomes more competitive with the rest of the country and games are more exciting.
At the very least, Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State need to pound those states and secure the top players. Maryland and New Jersey is now Big Ten turf and we can't let those players go elsewhere.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 10:18 AM
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A-tOSU and the B-10 already recruit those states hard. We have a commit from both states.
B-PSU is obviously in a deep hole and will be for quite some time, but they will be the program to benefit from this the most in the long run. Next to Pennsylvania, NJ and Maryland were/are the 2 states that PSU hits the hardest for talent.
C-Maryland and NJ have better overall talent than any B-10 states except for Ohio and Pennsylvania,IMO.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 11:29 AM
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PSU has always had great success recruiting NJ-MD-VA to the point JoePA didn't even have to travel later in the game. Then, VT started to put together good teams year after year and cut into the regional recruiting.
I wonder if PSU's recruiting the region will be effected that much now that the rest of the Big Ten will stop in NJ & MD.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 3:59 PM
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You'd be correct according to the map in this article that I can't figure out how to just show by itself in my post here (click the link or cut/paste)... http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8654190/on-urb an-meyer-ohio-state-wisconsin-big-ten-expanding-in clude-maryland-rutgers stxbuck wrote: A-tOSU and the B-10 already recruit those states hard. We have a commit from both states.
B-PSU is obviously in a deep hole and will be for quite some time, but they will be the program to benefit from this the most in the long run. Next to Pennsylvania, NJ and Maryland were/are the 2 states that PSU hits the hardest for talent.
C-Maryland and NJ have better overall talent than any B-10 states except for Ohio and Pennsylvania,IMO.
Last edited 11/20/2012 4:02 PM by ryecatcher773
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Posted: 11/20/2012 6:26 PM
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Holy hell no wonder why scum town has faded into obscurity recently. I knew the high school teams from that state were terrible but I thought they produced a little bit more individual talent than that. It's no wonder why they go after all our leftovers in order to keep from fading into oblivion and not turn into Minnesota. ryecatcher773 wrote: You'd be correct according to the map in this article that I can't figure out how to just show by itself in my post here (click the link or cut/paste)...
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8654190/on-urb an-meyer-ohio-state-wisconsin-big-ten-expanding-in clude-maryland-rutgers stxbuck wrote: A-tOSU and the B-10 already recruit those states hard. We have a commit from both states.
B-PSU is obviously in a deep hole and will be for quite some time, but they will be the program to benefit from this the most in the long run. Next to Pennsylvania, NJ and Maryland were/are the 2 states that PSU hits the hardest for talent.
C-Maryland and NJ have better overall talent than any B-10 states except for Ohio and Pennsylvania,IMO.
Last edited 11/20/2012 6:28 PM by Buckeeeeyyyes
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Posted: 11/20/2012 8:35 PM
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NJ and Maryland aren't Pennsylvania or Ohio, but they have quite a number of studs coming out every year (maybe 10 or so). With Maryland and Rutgers being down and the only real football schools in the footprint, I expect OSU's recruiting in those areas to only improve in the coming years, especially since Penn Rape (who usually invades those areas) is going to be in the cellar for the next 8 years or so.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 10:20 PM
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ryecatcher773 wrote: You'd be correct according to the map in this article that I can't figure out how to just show by itself in my post here (click the link or cut/paste)...
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8654190/on-urb an-meyer-ohio-state-wisconsin-big-ten-expanding-in clude-maryland-rutgersstxbuck wrote: A-tOSU and the B-10 already recruit those states hard. We have a commit from both states.
B-PSU is obviously in a deep hole and will be for quite some time, but they will be the program to benefit from this the most in the long run. Next to Pennsylvania, NJ and Maryland were/are the 2 states that PSU hits the hardest for talent.
C-Maryland and NJ have better overall talent than any B-10 states except for Ohio and Pennsylvania,IMO. Well, that's quite the article. However, note among east coast states, Maryland and New Jersey are the best. Makes me believe they will not go north toward UConn, Syracuse or BC, but will head south to UVa and UNC. |
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Posted: 11/20/2012 10:34 PM
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No problems there.... but I don't see UNC coming aboard. I'd like to see the Hokies and UVA though.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 1:57 AM
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Let me add this: F - Michigan stxbuck wrote: A-tOSU and the B-10 already recruit those states hard. We have a commit from both states.
B-PSU is obviously in a deep hole and will be for quite some time, but they will be the program to benefit from this the most in the long run. Next to Pennsylvania, NJ and Maryland were/are the 2 states that PSU hits the hardest for talent.
C-Maryland and NJ have better overall talent than any B-10 states except for Ohio and Pennsylvania,IMO. |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 9:54 AM
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I would think that Virginia will be one of the last two in. Virginia has impeccable academics, a huge endowment, and access to good sized recruiting pool. Virginia would have potential for improved athletics outside of the ACC. Virginia would also shore up Big 10 presence in Washington D.C. After that the likeliest candidates would be: Notre Dame - one last chance. North Carolina Georgia Tech Syracuse - maybe, if the conference wanted to shore up Big 10 presence in New York, New York City. As far as recruiting in New Jersey and Maryland I believe Rutgers and Maryland, and the Big 10 will fare much better in those states now that those programs are in the Big 10. New Jersey and Maryland has athletes, however, many left the state because of Big East or ACC football. ChinaBuck wrote:
ryecatcher773 wrote: You'd be correct according to the map in this article that I can't figure out how to just show by itself in my post here (click the link or cut/paste)...
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8654190/on-urb an-meyer-ohio-state-wisconsin-big-ten-expanding-in clude-maryland-rutgers stxbuck wrote: A-tOSU and the B-10 already recruit those states hard. We have a commit from both states.
B-PSU is obviously in a deep hole and will be for quite some time, but they will be the program to benefit from this the most in the long run. Next to Pennsylvania, NJ and Maryland were/are the 2 states that PSU hits the hardest for talent.
C-Maryland and NJ have better overall talent than any B-10 states except for Ohio and Pennsylvania,IMO.
Well, that's quite the article. However, note among east coast states, Maryland and New Jersey are the best. Makes me believe they will not go north toward UConn, Syracuse or BC, but will head south to UVa and UNC. |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 10:14 AM
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Another point is that it seems like New Jersey and especially Maryland have alot of elite, fast players at the skill positions. That is definitely needed in the Big Ten.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 5:29 PM
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Greetings from a Rutgers fan. Traditionally PSU has done very well in NJ, Rutgers did not start getting top NJ talent, other than a few exceptions until 3 years ago. Had only had the number one NJ player commit to RU once, and then it happened 2 years in a row. Then you guys got Woodward, life long OSU fan, ended our streak. ND is the other power that has done well in NJ. Seems like there are some PSU haters on the board, the NJ commits to PSU are over rated - folks like Sickels motor, but alot of NJ guys would tell you he and Mahon are very overated.
Despite what the ratings say, NJ probably has 15 legit big time guys each year, not 10.
Rutgers just started doing better at the top of the state, did great in 2011 and 2012, this year not as much - new staff sort of starting over. Schiano really gutted the staff.
Big 10 has already opened some of the NJ players eyes to RU, guys that had been all but locks to leave the state in 2014.
I think Maryland actually is a little deeper than NJ, and PSU has also done well recruiting those two states. North of NJ, NY, Mass, Ct. there is very little talent, NY will spit out some good players, but very little depth. BC used to recruit NJ well at RU's expense, not anymore, will only get worse now that RU is in the Big 10.
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Posted: 11/26/2012 7:21 PM
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Welcome to the Big Ten. My son just graduated from there in May.
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Posted: 11/27/2012 10:17 AM
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congrats
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Posted: 11/28/2012 5:34 PM
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I think you will see Rutgers jump up very fast, NJ is a very top heavy state for talent so after the top schools cherry pick the state there hasnt been much left for RU but with an upgrade in confrence and increased revenue to upgrade facilites they are going to start keeping more of those blue chippers.....I say within 5 years rutgers is in the upper tier of the big ten and is a consistant national power.....hell they've managed to put some good seasons togeather already anyways
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Posted: 11/28/2012 6:32 PM
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ACC fans are happy to get Louisville, Pitt, and Syracuse. 2 states produce little football talent, the other is already in the cross-hairs of Ohio State and Penn State. On the other hand Maryland and Rutgers were underappreciated and inappropriately marketed by basketball conferences ACC and Big East. Maryland and Rutgers have a great opportunity in football. Particularly since Indiana and Purdue are in a basketball state, PSU is on sanctions, and Wisconsin has benefited from recruiting in Rutgers backyard. These two should be competing with PSU and Wisconsin behind Ohio State in the near future. Floridabucknut wrote: I think you will see Rutgers jump up very fast, NJ is a very top heavy state for talent so after the top schools cherry pick the state there hasnt been much left for RU but with an upgrade in confrence and increased revenue to upgrade facilites they are going to start keeping more of those blue chippers.....I say within 5 years rutgers is in the upper tier of the big ten and is a consistant national power.....hell they've managed to put some good seasons togeather already anyways |
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