Pretty ridiculous to chalk it up to a "Mentor thing." Tanski wasn't never seen as a D1 prospect. He ended up walking on at Bowling Green. Jacquemain was having a great career at Akron before he got hooked on pain-killers and died from an overdose. He got better and better every year. WTF does that have to do with the offensive system at Mentor?

Grover51 wrote: I hate to say that Mentor QBs are system successes, but there is some history there.  Jacquemain, Tanski and now Trubisky -- all very successful in Trivissono's offense.  Neither of the other two amounted to anything at the major college level.  It was unfortunate what happened to Jacquemain.  I'm not saying Trubisky will be the same player, but there is some history there to suggest it might just be a Mentor thing.

I still think we should offer McVey..

Sorry, even after that game, out of the Ohio QBs we offered, I'd rather have had Malik Zaire. If we are looking in envy at any school after the Braxton era ends, it'll be westward to South Bend, not to Chapel Hill.

Not even a close contest.

theFootballBeast wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Trubisky should have been the 2nd QB in this class and was a big miss!  Urban is going to regret not putting the full press on this kid.

To do what? Carry luggage on road games for Rod Smith, Brionte Dunn, Warren Ball and Ezekiel Elliot?

Kid might be a great HS baller, but c'mon man. He doesn't have the physical tools to play major D-1 football at RB. He's going to Buffalo for a reason.

St. Ignatius reminds me of a Permian HS of Catholic school programs. Lots of heart, great tradition (and, unlike Permian a list of trophies that few can contend with), but limited chances for their players to have success at the next level.

11 OHSAA D-1 titles since my junior year @ Brush and proportionately speaking, their alumni don't have nearly as much to show for it as a school like (for example) Harding does, and considering the disparity in selectivity and whatnot, that says a lot.

lincolntower wrote: I still think we should offer McVey..

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. They send plenty of guys to the next level. St. Ignatius has at least 4 or 5 guys on NFL rosters right now. There'll be 2 Ignatius guys on the rosters for The Game. No, it's not a factory, but considering that it's a good academic school, they do pretty well. 

I'm surprised that O'Brien hasn't offered McVey to PSU. He could turn him into a Danny Woodhead type.

ryecatcher773 wrote: To do what? Carry luggage on road games for Rod Smith, Brionte Dunn, Warren Ball and Ezekiel Elliot?

Kid might be a great HS baller, but c'mon man. He doesn't have the physical tools to play major D-1 football at RB. He's going to Buffalo for a reason.

St. Ignatius reminds me of a Permian HS of Catholic school programs. Lots of heart, great tradition (and, unlike Permian a list of trophies that few can contend with), but limited chances for their players to have success at the next level.

11 OHSAA D-1 titles since my junior year @ Brush and proportionately speaking, their alumni don't have nearly as much to show for it as a school like (for example) Harding does, and considering the disparity in selectivity and whatnot, that says a lot.

lincolntower wrote: I still think we should offer McVey..

YTownPenguin wrote: Pretty ridiculous to chalk it up to a "Mentor thing." Tanski wasn't never seen as a D1 prospect. He ended up walking on at Bowling Green. Jacquemain was having a great career at Akron before he got hooked on pain-killers and died from an overdose. He got better and better every year. WTF does that have to do with the offensive system at Mentor?

Grover51 wrote: I hate to say that Mentor QBs are system successes, but there is some history there.  Jacquemain, Tanski and now Trubisky -- all very successful in Trivissono's offense.  Neither of the other two amounted to anything at the major college level.  It was unfortunate what happened to Jacquemain.  I'm not saying Trubisky will be the same player, but there is some history there to suggest it might just be a Mentor thing.

I never just chalked it up to being a Mentor thing.  I'm just not ready to say tOSU missed on this kid.  There has to be a reason we didn't go hard for him.  The other QBs of recent Mentor memory all had dynamic high school careers too.  I love watching Trubisky and I hope he has a great career at NC.  You can't avoid thinking that the system they run at Mentor has at least something to do with their success.

You missed my point entirely... but unwittingly said exactly what I was trying to say: for the amount of success they've had in D-1, it isn't a factory in comparison to other schools (like Joe's was for a shorter period of time in the grand scheme of things).

I'm not knocking the school or the program - I grew up in the Cleveland area, watching them dominate D-1 OHSAA football back in the late 80s and early 90s and have nothing but the utmost respect for Coach Kyle and his kids... and it's not a good academic school, it's a great acdemic school.

But my point was, if you look at the number of D-1 State Titles Iggie's has, and look at the number of kids they've had go on to play in the NFL over the years when compared to what Joe's, Glenville, Harding have done over shorter stretches of time... and minus the state titles, well it's not the ratio you'd expect. Yes, there are kids from Iggie's who play in the NFL and will in the future. But alll things considered, it's less than what you'd expect from comparably successful (i.e. dominant) programs in other big football states (e.g. De La Salle HS in California).

YTownPenguin wrote: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. They send plenty of guys to the next level. St. Ignatius has at least 4 or 5 guys on NFL rosters right now. There'll be 2 Ignatius guys on the rosters for The Game. No, it's not a factory, but considering that it's a good academic school, they do pretty well. 

I'm surprised that O'Brien hasn't offered McVey to PSU. He could turn him into a Danny Woodhead type.

ryecatcher773 wrote: To do what? Carry luggage on road games for Rod Smith, Brionte Dunn, Warren Ball and Ezekiel Elliot?

Kid might be a great HS baller, but c'mon man. He doesn't have the physical tools to play major D-1 football at RB. He's going to Buffalo for a reason.

St. Ignatius reminds me of a Permian HS of Catholic school programs. Lots of heart, great tradition (and, unlike Permian a list of trophies that few can contend with), but limited chances for their players to have success at the next level.

11 OHSAA D-1 titles since my junior year @ Brush and proportionately speaking, their alumni don't have nearly as much to show for it as a school like (for example) Harding does, and considering the disparity in selectivity and whatnot, that says a lot.

lincolntower wrote: I still think we should offer McVey..