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Posted: 2/4/2013 10:12 AM

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Early reports are this was the highest rated game in history...

Early Super Bowl ratings set record



CBS Sports has released very preliminary numbers that say Super Bowl XLVII could be the most-watched game in history.

Sunday’s telecast of the Baltimore Ravens vs. San Francisco 49ers game had an overnight rating/share of 48.1/71 in metered markets.

That’s up 1 percent from last year’s N.Y. Giants vs. New England game, which was the most-watched game ever.

Ratings peaked at from 10:30-10:45 PM, ET. National ratings, including the big viewership total, will be released later today. The final numbers could shift slightly from these less reliable early figures, so stay tuned.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/02...-xlvii-ratings/

I know Colin Cowherd is not a favorite around here, but I love him.  I love him because he's detached, rational with a wild "don't give a damn" streak.  He's also right FAR more often than he's not.  You have to listen to what he says about the NFL and why it so successful because he's right.  The NFL is as popular as it is and only getting more popular because it is constantly evolving and changing.  You can't say that for any other sport.  Baseball is the same game it was 80 years ago which is why it has for decades been losing popularity among young people.  

Old guys bitch about what the NFL has become... more passing, less nasty hits, faster game, more spread out, etc., but that is exactly what is making the game more popular.  All these rule changes everyone is whining about now is very much changing the game of football and it's making it a better game to watch.  Bama vs. LSU, smash mouth football in the BCS title game was flat unwatchable.  Last night's Superbowl with two outstanding QBs, loads of great skill guys and talent was incredible.  That is modern football.  That is what a vast majority of people now days want to watch and that's why they are watching it in record numbers.  And in 20 years the NFL will have evolved again and it will look little like it does today and a large number of people will bitch about it, but even more will be tuning in and enjoying the one game that is constantly evolving.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 10:27 AM

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thugger wrote:
You have a good product.  The true football fan is getting turned off by all the party bs and music acts.  If you guys continue to fail to focus on football you are going to lose your core audience.  Once college football gets the heads out of the a$$es and gets a real postseason tournament the NFL might be as popular as the NBA.
The true football fan is not going anywhere so the nfl wants the casual fans in record numbers and that is what they are getting.

 Football is no longer just a sport it is an event and people want to be part of events and THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS.

If you believe what you say you beleive, start boycotting the nfl and encourage other hard core nfl fans to to the same.  We will all wait to see that.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 10:37 AM

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thugger wrote:
You have a good product.  The true football fan is getting turned off by all the party bs and music acts.  If you guys continue to fail to focus on football you are going to lose your core audience.  Once college football gets the heads out of the a$$es and gets a real postseason tournament the NFL might be as popular as the NBA.

Why do you think that if the NCAA becomes more like the NFL it will somehow become more popular?

Hard core fans will remain in both sports but it seems more logical that as the two leagues become more alike, there will be less draw to college realitive to pro.

Although the playoff ratings will be huge as the games and importance of the regular season become the same why would a new fan choose to watch the lower level?

I'd argue that anything that makes the NCAA more like the NFL just invites less new viewers to start watching the NCAA.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 10:54 AM

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Marvin Gaye begs to differ.

Fantastic





va1bucksfan1 wrote:
awesomebucks wrote: what about that anthem?  Must have set a record for length and was plain awful. 

 
I have to agree.  I really can't stand self-indulgent versions of the national athem.  Just sing it correctly and sing it well instead of trying to show off your own "artisitc interpretation" of it.

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Posted: 2/4/2013 11:00 AM

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ChiTownOSUnut wrote:

Although the playoff ratings will be huge as the games and importance of the regular season become the same why would a new fan choose to watch the lower level?

 
There will always be lots of people who prefer the passion of rooting for a local college team than a far flung pro team.


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Posted: 2/4/2013 11:21 AM

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The blackout part of the Superbowl last night, the 34 minutes where nothing was happening except the people CBS pays to talk butchering the English language, drew a rating in the 40s. To put that in perspective, the most watched game of the World Series drew and 8.9, the most watched game of the NBA finals drew a 10.9, the Kentucky/Kansas Final Four game got a 12.3, the BCS title game drew a 15.1 and the Summer Olympic opening ceremony drew a 21.

In other words, more than four times as many people watched Shannon Sharpe set the spoken word back 500 years in a half dark Superdome than watched the World Series... more than twice as many when compared to the opening ceremonies. 30 minutes of half dark confusion is more popular than any other sport in this nation by a very wide margin.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 12:24 PM

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People must have loved MASH

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Posted: 2/4/2013 2:06 PM

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trinitytex wrote: Marvin Gaye begs to differ.

Fantastic





va1bucksfan1 wrote:
awesomebucks wrote: what about that anthem?  Must have set a record for length and was plain awful. 

 
I have to agree.  I really can't stand self-indulgent versions of the national athem.  Just sing it correctly and sing it well instead of trying to show off your own "artisitc interpretation" of it.

 
Yuck.  Am I supposed to be impressed because it was Marvin Gaye?  If he wanted to put some alternative version of the National Anthem like that on one of his albums, fine.  But to do it at a sporting event makes it all about him, which isn't supposed to be the purpose.


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Posted: 2/4/2013 2:50 PM

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coopercougar wrote: Early reports are this was the highest rated game in history...

I know Colin Cowherd is not a favorite around here, but I love him.  I love him because he's detached, rational with a wild "don't give a damn" streak.  He's also right FAR more often than he's not.  You have to listen to what he says about the NFL and why it so successful because he's right.  The NFL is as popular as it is and only getting more popular because it is constantly evolving and changing.  You can't say that for any other sport.  Baseball is the same game it was 80 years ago which is why it has for decades been losing popularity among young people.  


Baloney.  NBA and MLB have evolved the same way football has.  

What ground-breaking rules has the NFL instituted to make the game "better"?
- no touching qb's?
- letting kickers act their way to 15 yard penalties?
- QB's sliding?
- the TUCK rule?!?

NFL is popular (not arguing that).  But its not evolving any more than bball has bigger guys (*see LBJ) or baseball has more complete players (Cano, Trout, Harper).  

I used ot be a CC fan, but he went hypocrite too many times for me to handle.  And he uses too many superlatives.  Case in point:  Picked Oregon over OSU in Fiesta (they were too fast........) and then totally ignores any analysis after the outcome proved him 100% wrong.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 3:12 PM

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Art is subjective. You'll get over it.

The National Anthem has a stupid arrangement anyway (other than being very difficult to sing).  It's a song about being bombed by the British, set to the melody of a popular British song. Not sure what genius came up with that idea.


va1bucksfan1 wrote:
trinitytex wrote: Marvin Gaye begs to differ.

Fantastic





va1bucksfan1 wrote:
awesomebucks wrote: what about that anthem?  Must have set a record for length and was plain awful. 

 
I have to agree.  I really can't stand self-indulgent versions of the national athem.  Just sing it correctly and sing it well instead of trying to show off your own "artisitc interpretation" of it.

 
Yuck.  Am I supposed to be impressed because it was Marvin Gaye?  If he wanted to put some alternative version of the National Anthem like that on one of his albums, fine.  But to do it at a sporting event makes it all about him, which isn't supposed to be the purpose.

Last edited 2/4/2013 3:13 PM by trinitytex

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Posted: 2/4/2013 3:46 PM

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coopercougar wrote: The blackout part of the Superbowl last night, the 34 minutes where nothing was happening except the people CBS pays to talk butchering the English language, drew a rating in the 40s. To put that in perspective, the most watched game of the World Series drew and 8.9, the most watched game of the NBA finals drew a 10.9, the Kentucky/Kansas Final Four game got a 12.3, the BCS title game drew a 15.1 and the Summer Olympic opening ceremony drew a 21.

In other words, more than four times as many people watched Shannon Sharpe set the spoken word back 500 years in a half dark Superdome than watched the World Series... more than twice as many when compared to the opening ceremonies. 30 minutes of half dark confusion is more popular than any other sport in this nation by a very wide margin.
LOL... Shannon Sharp shoul dnot be allowed to ad lib like that... i felt bad for him...tongue
~ The BigFish

Last edited 2/4/2013 3:47 PM by DexterBuckeye

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Posted: 2/4/2013 3:51 PM

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va1bucksfan1 wrote:
ChiTownOSUnut wrote:

Although the playoff ratings will be huge as the games and importance of the regular season become the same why would a new fan choose to watch the lower level?

 
There will always be lots of people who prefer the passion of rooting for a local college team than a far flung pro team.
No doubt. But that's the same either way. Making the NCAA game more like the NFL can only hurt the fan that can go either way. A casual fan.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 5:08 PM

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coopercougar wrote: Early reports are this was the highest rated game in history...

Early Super Bowl ratings set record



CBS Sports has released very preliminary numbers that say Super Bowl XLVII could be the most-watched game in history.

Sunday’s telecast of the Baltimore Ravens vs. San Francisco 49ers game had an overnight rating/share of 48.1/71 in metered markets.

That’s up 1 percent from last year’s N.Y. Giants vs. New England game, which was the most-watched game ever.

Ratings peaked at from 10:30-10:45 PM, ET. National ratings, including the big viewership total, will be released later today. The final numbers could shift slightly from these less reliable early figures, so stay tuned.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/02...-xlvii-ratings/

I know Colin Cowherd is not a favorite around here, but I love him.  I love him because he's detached, rational with a wild "don't give a damn" streak.  He's also right FAR more often than he's not.  You have to listen to what he says about the NFL and why it so successful because he's right.  The NFL is as popular as it is and only getting more popular because it is constantly evolving and changing.  You can't say that for any other sport.  Baseball is the same game it was 80 years ago which is why it has for decades been losing popularity among young people.  

Old guys bitch about what the NFL has become... more passing, less nasty hits, faster game, more spread out, etc., but that is exactly what is making the game more popular.  All these rule changes everyone is whining about now is very much changing the game of football and it's making it a better game to watch.  Bama vs. LSU, smash mouth football in the BCS title game was flat unwatchable.  Last night's Superbowl with two outstanding QBs, loads of great skill guys and talent was incredible.  That is modern football.  That is what a vast majority of people now days want to watch and that's why they are watching it in record numbers.  And in 20 years the NFL will have evolved again and it will look little like it does today and a large number of people will bitch about it, but even more will be tuning in and enjoying the one game that is constantly evolving.

Disagree with your premise.  It isn't so much modern "popular" football as it is the two best football teams in America going head to head.  That and it was close is what made it fun to watch.  Really has nothing to do with less big hits and the general pussification of the game.  In fact, I would argue that there were many call not made that were made all season.  A couple blatant helmet to helmets went uncalled as well as a ref being pushed.

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Posted: 2/4/2013 5:26 PM

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Delreek wrote:
thugger wrote:
You have a good product.  The true football fan is getting turned off by all the party bs and music acts.  If you guys continue to fail to focus on football you are going to lose your core audience.  Once college football gets the heads out of the a$$es and gets a real postseason tournament the NFL might be as popular as the NBA.
The true football fan is not going anywhere so the nfl wants the casual fans in record numbers and that is what they are getting.

 Football is no longer just a sport it is an event and people want to be part of events and THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS.

If you believe what you say you beleive, start boycotting the nfl and encourage other hard core nfl fans to to the same.  We will all wait to see that.
Im a libertarian.  I could care a less what other people watch.  The superbowl has become marketing giant that numbers might not always tell the story.  I casually watched it, I used to be glued with every play, so did most other people.  Probably only watched 2 quarters combined.  I would rather watch college football or MMA.

Maybe I am getting old, but if I am forced this lame entertainment I would also rather see Circus O lay or Chris Angel  than another boring lip sync halftime show.  Why has music and dance become the only form of entertainment.  Hell, throw in the damm frisbee dogs.

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Posted: 2/4/2013 7:28 PM

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Stratbuck wrote: 

Disagree with your premise.  It isn't so much modern "popular" football as it is the two best football teams in America going head to head.  That and it was close is what made it fun to watch.  Really has nothing to do with less big hits and the general pussification of the game.  In fact, I would argue that there were many call not made that were made all season.  A couple blatant helmet to helmets went uncalled as well as a ref being pushed.

That would be true if it were not for the fact that EVERY NFL game is huge.  Of the top 50 most watched sporting events in all of 2012, 34 were NFL games and that was in a year with the Summer Olympics.  The regular season game between the Steelers and Broncos played in early September attracted almost twice as many viewers as the most watched game of the World Series and almost 10 million more viewers than the most watched game of the NBA Finals. 

And the popularity of the league is only growing and the disparity between the NFL and all other sports is getting wider and wider.  And I'm not even talking the Superbowl or playoff games.  Regular season NFL games are blowing away the best any other sport has to offer.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 7:40 PM

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ESPiN pays something like 1.9 billion per year for their MNF line up. It also pays for rights to show highlights during the week so its not just the games but it is "the power of the shield"

www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2...l-through-2021/

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Posted: 2/4/2013 7:50 PM

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thugger wrote:
Maybe I am getting old, but if I am forced this lame entertainment I would also rather see Circus O lay or Chris Angel  than another boring lip sync halftime show.  Why has music and dance become the only form of entertainment.  Hell, throw in the damm frisbee dogs.
think you mean Cirque du Soleil

and dog frisbees usually gets the best fan reaction.

I was EXTREMELY disappointed when Dr. Pepper moved their scholarship thing (where they throw footballs into the bottle) from halftime to WAAY before the game.  Thought that was great entertainment.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 8:53 PM

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coopercougar wrote:
Stratbuck wrote: 

Disagree with your premise.  It isn't so much modern "popular" football as it is the two best football teams in America going head to head.  That and it was close is what made it fun to watch.  Really has nothing to do with less big hits and the general pussification of the game.  In fact, I would argue that there were many call not made that were made all season.  A couple blatant helmet to helmets went uncalled as well as a ref being pushed.

That would be true if it were not for the fact that EVERY NFL game is huge.  Of the top 50 most watched sporting events in all of 2012, 34 were NFL games and that was in a year with the Summer Olympics.  The regular season game between the Steelers and Broncos played in early September attracted almost twice as many viewers as the most watched game of the World Series and almost 10 million more viewers than the most watched game of the NBA Finals. 

And the popularity of the league is only growing and the disparity between the NFL and all other sports is getting wider and wider.  And I'm not even talking the Superbowl or playoff games.  Regular season NFL games are blowing away the best any other sport has to offer.
NFL may be becoming "trendy," but I sure as hell am not near as interested as I was 10 years ago.  I guess I need to get back into a money fantasy league to to get interested again.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 9:20 PM

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Stratbuck wrote: 
NFL may be becoming "trendy," but I sure as hell am not near as interested as I was 10 years ago.  I guess I need to get back into a money fantasy league to to get interested again.
The NFL knows that and the NFL doesn't care because they know you'll still watch some and for every fan like you that fades away, there are at least two who take your place. 

I've said this before, but as a game, the NFL is far more interesting to me than it ever has been because this is the style of football I grew up playing.  The stuff New England and New Orleans, Green Bay, Carolina, Washington, Seattle, etc are doing, we were doing in high school (albeit on a less sophisticated level).  Seeing the game become faster and more wide open is how I played it, it is the style I most enjoy watching at the college level and it's now coming into the NFL which is making the NFL much more watchable to me.

This is why the NFL continues to win over new, young fans.  The game is constantly evolving with the generations.  The older generations don't like it, but they still watch and the younger generations become more passionate.  No other sport can say that because no other sport lends itself to the kind of game evolution football does.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 9:35 PM

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coopercougar wrote:
Stratbuck wrote: 
NFL may be becoming "trendy," but I sure as hell am not near as interested as I was 10 years ago.  I guess I need to get back into a money fantasy league to to get interested again.
The NFL knows that and the NFL doesn't care because they know you'll still watch some and for every fan like you that fades away, there are at least two who take your place. 

I've said this before, but as a game, the NFL is far more interesting to me than it ever has been because this is the style of football I grew up playing.  The stuff New England and New Orleans, Green Bay, Carolina, Washington, Seattle, etc are doing, we were doing in high school (albeit on a less sophisticated level).  Seeing the game become faster and more wide open is how I played it, it is the style I most enjoy watching at the college level and it's now coming into the NFL which is making the NFL much more watchable to me.

This is why the NFL continues to win over new, young fans.  The game is constantly evolving with the generations.  The older generations don't like it, but they still watch and the younger generations become more passionate.  No other sport can say that because no other sport lends itself to the kind of game evolution football does.
Well I don't care that the NFL doesn't care about me!tongue  College fball has always been my favorite.  There have always been more styles in college football and they use to seem regionally based.  Midwest was known for it's hard nosed style, the west had it's short passing game, there were the teams that ran the option, and then teams adopted the run and shoot.

NFL teams have very similar styles unless they employ a "mobile" qb.  JMO but I think the NFL is much more bland especially with all the weak penalties.
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