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Re: ohio steeler fans!!

Posted: 2/5/2013 11:35 AM

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I live in Michigan and I'm a die hard Buckeye and Steeler fan.  Love it!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 2/5/2013 1:10 PM

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buhkeiz wrote:
BuckeyeWarrior wrote:
milkdog99 wrote: I don't understand the amount of steeler fans in Ohio! Blows my mind how can you not like the browns!! No freaking loyalty!
There are more players from Ohio and former Ohio State players on the Steelers than the Browns or Bengals.
Um, thats nice.  What does it have to do with anything?

More than you think!!
I've been down here way over 25 years, I lost a lot of passion for pro football. Actually when I moved down here the Saints were the Aint’s and in my book still are. Just never could get excited about another team. So today when I do watch a pro game, I almost always root for the team with the most Buckeyes!!!

Like the 49’ers and yea!! even the Saints when they play teams with no buckeyes.

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Posted: 2/5/2013 9:18 PM

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I'm a Steelers fan. I have lived in the Cleveland, OH area my entire life. My Grandpa is from Western PA and is a lifelong Steelers fan. He started me early, from birth actually. He's been a big part of my life, since birth. 

My teams are: Ohio State Buckeyes, Pittsburgh Steelers, Pittsburgh Penguins, and the Pittsburgh Pirates.
WE DON'T GIVE A DAMN FOR THE WHOLE STATE OF MICHIGAN
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Posted: 2/5/2013 9:49 PM

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OSUBucksFan824 wrote: I'm a Steelers fan. I have lived in the Cleveland, OH area my entire life. My Grandpa is from Western PA and is a lifelong Steelers fan. He started me early, from birth actually. He's been a big part of my life, since birth. 

My teams are: Ohio State Buckeyes, Pittsburgh Steelers, Pittsburgh Penguins, and the Pittsburgh Pirates.
At least I can understand this^
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Posted: 2/5/2013 10:40 PM

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But a Cleveland area kid , that chooses Michigan is a traitor??

 
As a Clevelander, I now forgive Desmond Howard.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:53 AM

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OSUBucksFan824 wrote: I'm a Steelers fan. I have lived in the Cleveland, OH area my entire life. My Grandpa is from Western PA and is a lifelong Steelers fan. He started me early, from birth actually. He's been a big part of my life, since birth. 

My teams are: Ohio State Buckeyes, Pittsburgh Steelers, Pittsburgh Penguins, and the Pittsburgh Pirates.

There is a train of thought that you root for the teams from whence you came. I think you touch on a good point though, and that is the influlence of family/friends.

I am from Northeast Ohio and I root for the Cleveland Teams (As well as Ohio State of course) however I also had a family growing up, dad, uncles etc...who were die hard Cleveland Sports fans. So for me it wasn't a question, I rooted for the home town/ family team.

In your instance, family trumped the hometown (and to be honest, and I don't know how old you are but I am mid 30's and assuming you are as well, winning plays a part in that equation and the Pittsburgh teams, even the Pirates were pretty successful during the 80'
s early 90's)

As I see it, folks who are from an area, and whose families/friends are fans of the team in that area - and those folks root for someone else it's because of 1. They are front runners and the team they are rooting for have been very successful and/or 2. They are just being difficult, running against the grain.

Location trumping personal ties, personal ties trumping location all things I can understand.

No personal ties and not being from the city and still rooting for that team, that I can't figure out.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 8:36 AM

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Why would anyone root for a losing organization when they can root for a winning one?  That's just common sense.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 11:48 AM

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milkdog99 wrote: I don't understand the amount of steeler fans in Ohio! Blows my mind how can you not like the browns!! No freaking loyalty!
Welcome to the age of bandwagon fans.

Now with the Internet and Direct TV, you can be a fan of any team and not miss anything about whatever team you decide is your favorite; geography doesn't have to play a role in determining that loyalty.

When people my age and a bit younger/older were growing up, you could only see your favorite college football power on TV about two times per year -- but you could see your local NFL team EVERY Sunday.

I grew up learning about football watching Browns games with my dad and grandpa. It was a family tradition to sit down as a family and watch the games, rooting on our favorite players and a team that was, at the time, the best in all the NFL with a winning percentage of well over .700.

When the Steelers began their steroid-laced run of titles in the 1970s, what had been the most pathetic NFL franchise all of a sudden became one of the best, and you saw the inevitable bandwagon fans jumping aboard.

At about the same time, fans of Paul Brown followed him to Cincinnati as he founded the Bengals after being fired by the man who would ruin the Browns in so many ways, Art Modell.

The rest is well documented: The Browns, a team that had had only ONE losing season its first 30 years under Brown and one that had regularly won NFL titles and appeared in title games, suddenly began having losing seasons -- especially after Browns players began retiring and his former assistants left.

At the same time, Modell did no marketing of his team in Ohio, outside of Cleveland. None. So the fan base that had been so strong began to recede, giving way to other teams.

Modell slowly ran the franchise into the ground and bankrupted himself until he chose to take a bribe from Maryland and move the team, rather than sell it locally and keep it in Cleveland.

So for 3 years, there was no football in Cleveland and when the franchise came back, it was not allowed (by the NFL) enough time to adequately prepare for the draft, to scout free agents, or hire a front office and coaching staff. All of which set the "new" Browns back yet another 5 years, at least.

Throw in the incompetence of Randy Lerner, who took over after his father suddenly became ill and passed away only a few years into owning the team, and you had a bad product on the field that was not attractive to fans looking for a team to root for -- in an age that gave them many choices.

Sorry for the long post...but that's how you get so many Steeler (and other) fans in Ohio, when it should be more locked down by fans of the two Ohio teams.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:08 PM

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Writerdawg wrote:
milkdog99 wrote: I don't understand the amount of steeler fans in Ohio! Blows my mind how can you not like the browns!! No freaking loyalty!
Welcome to the age of bandwagon fans.

Now with the Internet and Direct TV, you can be a fan of any team and not miss anything about whatever team you decide is your favorite; geography doesn't have to play a role in determining that loyalty.

When people my age and a bit younger/older were growing up, you could only see your favorite college football power on TV about two times per year -- but you could see your local NFL team EVERY Sunday.

I grew up learning about football watching Browns games with my dad and grandpa. It was a family tradition to sit down as a family and watch the games, rooting on our favorite players and a team that was, at the time, the best in all the NFL with a winning percentage of well over .700.

When the Steelers began their steroid-laced run of titles in the 1970s, what had been the most pathetic NFL franchise all of a sudden became one of the best, and you saw the inevitable bandwagon fans jumping aboard.

At about the same time, fans of Paul Brown followed him to Cincinnati as he founded the Bengals after being fired by the man who would ruin the Browns in so many ways, Art Modell.

The rest is well documented: The Browns, a team that had had only ONE losing season its first 30 years under Brown and one that had regularly won NFL titles and appeared in title games, suddenly began having losing seasons -- especially after Browns players began retiring and his former assistants left.

At the same time, Modell did no marketing of his team in Ohio, outside of Cleveland. None. So the fan base that had been so strong began to recede, giving way to other teams.

Modell slowly ran the franchise into the ground and bankrupted himself until he chose to take a bribe from Maryland and move the team, rather than sell it locally and keep it in Cleveland.

So for 3 years, there was no football in Cleveland and when the franchise came back, it was not allowed (by the NFL) enough time to adequately prepare for the draft, to scout free agents, or hire a front office and coaching staff. All of which set the "new" Browns back yet another 5 years, at least.

Throw in the incompetence of Randy Lerner, who took over after his father suddenly became ill and passed away only a few years into owning the team, and you had a bad product on the field that was not attractive to fans looking for a team to root for -- in an age that gave them many choices.

Sorry for the long post...but that's how you get so many Steeler (and other) fans in Ohio, when it should be more locked down by fans of the two Ohio teams.

I agree with most of your post.

 I would point out to you :


1. It wasn't just Art Modell that caused the team to leave. Yes, at the end of the day he decided to move but two people go unmentioned in popular discussions on this topic: 1. George Voinovich, one of the most corrupt politicians in this state and the City of Clevleand and 2. Mike White - another corrupt politicians and Mayor of Cleveland at the time.

The Politicians always seem to skate in our society, no matter the issue and pretty much no matter the party. When both sides team up, they blame businessmen, thrid parties or make up an enemy.

Art moved the team, but the politicians laid the foundation for that to happen and to this Browns fan, that is just as bad.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:25 PM

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WOODY16111 wrote:
OSUBucksFan824 wrote: I'm a Steelers fan. I have lived in the Cleveland, OH area my entire life. My Grandpa is from Western PA and is a lifelong Steelers fan. He started me early, from birth actually. He's been a big part of my life, since birth. 

My teams are: Ohio State Buckeyes, Pittsburgh Steelers, Pittsburgh Penguins, and the Pittsburgh Pirates.

There is a train of thought that you root for the teams from whence you came. I think you touch on a good point though, and that is the influlence of family/friends.

I am from Northeast Ohio and I root for the Cleveland Teams (As well as Ohio State of course) however I also had a family growing up, dad, uncles etc...who were die hard Cleveland Sports fans. So for me it wasn't a question, I rooted for the home town/ family team.

In your instance, family trumped the hometown (and to be honest, and I don't know how old you are but I am mid 30's and assuming you are as well, winning plays a part in that equation and the Pittsburgh teams, even the Pirates were pretty successful during the 80'
s early 90's)

As I see it, folks who are from an area, and whose families/friends are fans of the team in that area - and those folks root for someone else it's because of 1. They are front runners and the team they are rooting for have been very successful and/or 2. They are just being difficult, running against the grain.

Location trumping personal ties, personal ties trumping location all things I can understand.

No personal ties and not being from the city and still rooting for that team, that I can't figure out.
I get this all the time:

"You've lived in Cleveland your whole life & you're a Pittsburgh fan....so you root for Michigan too??"

When I explain why I am a Pittsburgh fan, they say: "But you're living in Cleveland, so you should root for their teams."

Me: "So if you moved to Detroit, would you stop rooting for the Cleveland teams and change your loyalties?"

Them: "No, that makes no sense."

Me: "But that's the logic you're using for why I should root for Cleveland teams."

Then they walk away mad because I took their point and threw it in Lake Erie.

And I do like the Indians, but I wouldn't say I am an Indians fan. But they're the team I watch because they're on tv here while the Pirates are normally not. And I am not really a basketball fan, but every once in a while I will watch a Cavs game. I do own two Cavs t-shirts for when I get the chance to go to games.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:43 PM

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Shaker sucks. Go Tigers! tongue

(My cousin was a Red Raider, but I grew up playing hockey at the Pavillion for CH)
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But a Cleveland area kid , that chooses Michigan is a traitor??

 
As a Clevelander, I now forgive Desmond Howard.

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