wcbuckeye80 wrote: I don't know? Maybe they can recruit in the same places they did whe they were winning NC. Lol

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Paleriderbuck wrote:

LilTunchei wrote: How much longer can we consider Nebraska a blue blood? I feel like they are going to fall off and will never get back to where they were. Just don't think they have a good area to recruit in. Which all the other blue bloods do.

Bo-Pa just sucks. They'll be good again some day.

Oh really and where exactly are they going to recruit?

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The Nebraska coaches have little choice but to hit the road. Their state produced only 43 BCS-conference players in the past five years, and the annual output isn't likely to grow. If they don't get their players from Florida, then they must go to California, Texas, New Jersey or some other state rich in high school football talent. To land those players, Pelini will have to work harder now than former coach Tom Osborne did when the Cornhuskers dominated the sport for the better part of two decades. Back then, a winning program was enough to lure recruits, in part because only powerhouses such as Nebraska, Michigan and Notre Dame appeared on television regularly. Now, every BCS conference team plays most of its games on television, and 15 years of the 85-scholarship limit has slammed shut the gap between football's ruling class and the former pigskin proletariat.

In the process, the three most important factors in college football recruiting have become location, location and location. Now, the best players are more likely to stay close to home. That, combined with the U.S. population's shift to the south, has fundamentally changed the sport. Notre Dame and Nebraska have given way to programs such as LSU, the only BCS-conference team in a talent-rich state that borders equally talent-rich Texas and Mississippi.

An SI study of 2004-08 recruiting data for the 65 BCS-conference schools and Notre Dame revealed that programs which draw at least 50 percent of their players from within 200 miles or from within their home state stand a far better chance of winning consistently than those that did not. Of the nine schools that won 50 or more games from 2004-08, seven signed more than half their recruits during that span from within their state or from within 200 miles of campus: Texas (93.2% from in-state, 71.8 percent from within 200 miles), USC (72.0, 61.0), Georgia (63.6, 70.1), Florida (62.3, 47.9), Ohio State (55.8, 66.3), Virginia Tech (54.3, 44.0) and LSU (50.4, 56.5). Oklahoma barely missed the cut, with 49.1 percent from within 200 miles.

Of the 22 schools that won 40 or more games during that span, 16 attracted more than half their players from within 200 miles or from within their state. Of the 44 schools that won fewer than 40 games, only 13 met the homegrown recruiting criteria.

Those data complement the findings of a trio of economists who, in 2005, designed a model to predict the college choices of sought-after recruits. The model created by Mike DuMond, Allen Lynch and Jennifer Platania -- rabid college football fans who met while Ph D. candidates at Florida State -- found that among heavily recruited players choosing from among only BCS-conference schools, distance from home is the most important factor in a recruit's choice. The model was published in the February 2008 issue of The Journal of Sports Economics.

The model found that a school's academic standing -- whether it's in the top 50 of the US News and World Report rankings -- provides a miniscule bump. So does the final poll ranking of the school the previous season. What didn't matter to players shocked the economists more. According to the data, the players weren't, on the whole, worried about the depth chart, how many national titles schools had won or how many players the school put in the NFL.

"Recruits tend to have short memories," said DuMond, who works for a private economics firm in Tallahassee, Fla. In general, DuMond says, the top recruits are looking for "a place that is in a BCS conference with a big stadium that is close enough that they can be seen by family and friends."

LilTunchei wrote:

Paleriderbuck wrote:
While Notre Dame can recruit anywhere do they really get the same level recruits that the top SEC, Ohio State, Texas and Michigan get? And if they do can they keep it up year after year?

They certainly did this year and I'm guessing they will continue to do so. I don't think any school has their mix of history and academics.

To bad their administration doesn’t have some of those academic smarts!!

That program sucks!!! They keep playing all the games (mind games) with those lower class conferences (Big-East, ACC) just to keep some crappy bowl games and to show there fen’ ignorance about being to proud to belong to a conference.

There days are

LilTunchei wrote:

Paleriderbuck wrote:
While Notre Dame can recruit anywhere do they really get the same level recruits that the top SEC, Ohio State, Texas and Michigan get? And if they do can they keep it up year after year?

They certainly did this year and I'm guessing they will continue to do so. I don't think any school has their mix of history and academics.

To bad their administration doesn’t have some of those academic smarts!!

That program sucks!!! They keep playing all the games (mind games) with those lower class conferences (Big-East, ACC) just to keep some crappy bowl games and to show there fen’ ignorance about being to proud to belong to a conference.

16isles wrote: 3 NC's in the last 35 years between them. It is historical alright.

steubenville05 wrote: IMO....the historical creme de la creme programs (in Football):

Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Alabama
Texas
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska

Next Tier:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Penn State
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Auburn

Others worth mentioning: Pitt, WVU, UCLA, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech

steubenville05 wrote: IMO....the historical creme de la creme programs (in Football):

Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Alabama
Texas
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska

Next Tier:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Penn State
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Auburn

Others worth mentioning: Pitt, WVU, UCLA, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech

steubenville05 wrote: IMO....the historical creme de la creme programs (in Football):

Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Alabama
Texas
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska

Next Tier:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Penn State
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Auburn

Others worth mentioning: Pitt, WVU, UCLA, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech

Vermonter wrote:

steubenville05 wrote: IMO....the historical creme de la creme programs (in Football):

Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Alabama
Texas
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska

Next Tier:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Penn State
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Auburn

Others worth mentioning: Pitt, WVU, UCLA, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech

Nailed it! I would add Clemson to the honorable mention list, as well as possibly BYU.

steubenville05 wrote: IMO....the historical creme de la creme programs (in Football):

Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Alabama
Texas
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska

Next Tier:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Penn State
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Auburn

Others worth mentioning: Pitt, WVU, UCLA, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech

andmichiganstillsucks wrote: Football
-Michigan
-Notre Dame
-Oklahoma
-Ohio State
-Texas
-Alabama
-USC
-Nebraska

Basketball
-Kentucky
-Kansas
-North Carolina
-Duke
-Syracuse
-UCLA
-Indiana

steubenville05 wrote: IMO....the historical creme de la creme programs (in Football):

Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Alabama
Texas
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska

Next Tier:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Penn State
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee
Auburn

Others worth mentioning: Pitt, WVU, UCLA, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Stanford, Clemson, BYU

LilTunchei wrote:

Paleriderbuck wrote:

LilTunchei wrote: How much longer can we consider Nebraska a blue blood? I feel like they are going to fall off and will never get back to where they were. Just don't think they have a good area to recruit in. Which all the other blue bloods do.

Bo-Pa just sucks. They'll be good again some day.

Oh really and where exactly are they going to recruit?

DerpRedwine wrote:

The "blue bloods" are the people who haven't been on probation for anything, and still actually regard the young people as "studetn athletes"

Ivy League, and then there's everybody else.

Ohio State, LOL

andmichiganstillsucks wrote: Football
-Michigan
-Notre Dame
-Oklahoma
-Ohio State
-Texas
-Alabama
-USC
-Nebraska

Basketball
-Kentucky
-Kansas
-North Carolina
-Duke
-Syracuse
-UCLA
-Indiana

BestofTexas wrote: Good picks
My picks in order:
Elite
ND
Texas
USC
Alabama
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma

National Colleges
LSU
Florida
Florida State
Texas A&M
Penn State
UCLA

BestofTexas wrote: Good picks
My picks in order:
Elite
ND
Texas
USC
Alabama
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma

National Colleges
LSU
Florida
Florida State
Texas A&M
Penn State
UCLA

PSU1029 wrote: So Penn states not a blueblood?