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Top 5 recruiters...

  • BuckMike
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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:39 PM

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FYI...from National Football Post:

There's no question that assistant coaches do a lot of the gruntwork for a college football program.

While head coaches get all of the glory and make a lot of the money that is generated from the huge television contracts that are being brokered these days, their assistants are the ones getting in that last word with a recruit while travelling cross-country all year 'round, including less than a week before National Signing Day.

However, players ultimately come to a school for a variety of reasons. And the head coach is one of the biggest aspects of a recruit's decision-making process.

Below, these are the head coaches who are the best at getting the players they want to come to their program.

1. Nick Saban, Alabama: Is there really any debate here? The Crimson Tide have captured three of the last four BCS national championships, and the program's sustained success is a byproduct of the hard work that Saban and his staff put in on the recruiting trail. And when a program is as successful as Alabama, it gets easier and easier to bring in the best players in the country. Saban can point to two aspects of his program that any player can buy: national titles and player development. At Alabama, every game takes on national significance, and every April the NFL Draft is littered with 'Bama players. Throw in Saban's ability to persuade and his program-building mentality and you have the best recruiting head coach in America.

2. Urban Meyer, Ohio State: The entire landscape of the Big Ten changed when the Buckeyes brought in Meyer less than one year removed from the Jim Tressel regime. Former Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema took notice (and it's ironic that Bielema is now in the SEC at Arkansas), and every other coach in the Legends and Leaders division took notice as well. Meyer quickly won at Bowling Green, Utah and Florida. And in 2012, in his first season in Columbus, he went undefeated. That speaks to his coaching. But the fact that he was able to snag SEC-type defensive linemen in last year's recruiting class at OSU speaks to his recruiting prowess. It's no wonder that he went after Oregon commits right after Chip Kelly bolted to the NFL. Meyer with more family/work balance in Columbus? Yeah, right.

3. Dabo Swinney, Clemson: Remember when Swinney was considered overmatched as a major-college head coach? What he has done on the recruiting trail with the Tigers has been fantastic, and it's his enthusiasm for his players and winning that has recruits taking notice. Remember his celebration (insert any big Clemson win here) after his team beat LSU in this past season's Chick-fil-A Bowl? Recruits love those types of moments, as Swinney's enthusiasm is nothing short of contagious. The Tigers head coach has also been able to get top recruits out of rich states such as Florida and Georgia, including electric receiver Sammy Watkins. His tireless work ethic has paid off not only on the recruiting front but as the face of a program.

4. Brian Kelly, Notre Dame: While a lot of current recruits may have been worried about Kelly's flirtation with the NFL's Philadelphia Eagles, Kelly remains committed to the college game. And he'll remain one of the nation's best recruiters as he looks to make Notre Dame an annual title contender. His political background certainly has been a part of his success in all aspects of being a head football coach. Of course, his Irish Catholic background gets played up because he is the face of the Golden Domers. But putting all of that aside, Kelly really began to relate to and connect with the holdovers from the Charlie Weis era while sprinkling in his own players from his first few recruiting classes. And that paid off in a big way in 2012. He has been able to sell top recruits on an ND revival just as he did with current players such as Stephon Tuitt and Gunner Kiel. And all you have to do is look at the current list of pledges for the Class of 2013 to know that Kelly's magic is working in South Bend.

5. Brady Hoke, Michigan: Hoke did a marvelous job of salvaging the Wolverines' recruiting class when he was hired just a few weeks before National Signing Day a few years ago. With Hoke and his staff immediately putting their stamp on the football program and going to the Sugar Bowl in Year One, the former Ball State and San Diego State head coach proved that the administration made the right call by bringing back a "Michigan Man" to Ann Arbor. Although Greg Mattison may arguably be the Big Ten's best recruiter in terms of assistants, Hoke is the face of Michigan football. And players, including recent signee Derrick Green, want to play for him. The Wolverines are primed to bring in their best class since probably 2005 or 1998, when Drew Henson, David Terrell and Justin Fargas came aboard. Much to the chagrin of Michigan State, the Wolverines are getting the state's best talent once again. And Hoke is even able to still get a couple of highly ranked Ohio kids despite Meyer's presence while also sprinkling in nationally ranked recruits. The Michigan-Ohio State rivalry is hot once again.

Others of note: James Franklin, Vanderbilt; Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M; Will Muschamp, Florida; David Shaw, Stanford; Jimbo Fisher, Florida State; Lane Kiffin, USC

 

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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:45 PM

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Lane Kiffin over hoke anyday
 
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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:50 PM

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Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:53 PM

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Ya...since this list is just recruiting and not coaching...Kiffin should be top 5.
RipAndRattle wrote: Lane Kiffin over hoke anyday
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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:57 PM

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LOL...Heck since Hoke has #1 class and Green...why not move him to #1 ?
zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:58 PM

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Lol. U do know we didn't actively recruit Green, right?

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Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.

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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:03 PM

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No, my number 1 coach would be that guy from ole miss.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:10 PM

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This is freaking foolish. Wtf? scUM does not have the #1 class. Dont just based that off of scout. They are 10-5 everywhere else. And once signing day comes a few teams will be above them (including Ohio State)

Urban stopped recruiting green awhile ago and what the hell does 1 recruit have to do with one being better than the other?

Until Hoke can match Urban's 2010 Gator class GTFO!
zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
 

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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:21 PM

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zbforged wrote: No, my number 1 coach would be that guy from ole miss.
Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss. It now looks like he is going to sign the number one class in the country. No joke.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:23 PM

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zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
 osu has better lb's, better db's, qb is a wash, I think both are overrated. much better dline, better wr's,  better TE with baugh,

you have the edge with safety, unless cam converts to safety.rb you edge us but not by much, elliott beat out tyner for rb mvp in champaign, plus jalin can fill in there.

Your Oline is nice, and by far the strength of your class.

yes hoke had a poor season, but this class was mostly recruited from the prior season, and meyer had only 1 year to establish a relationship with recruits

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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:49 PM

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kirby smart is the ace recruiter for bama.

saban is a good closer but he is so business like he intimidates a lot of hs kids till they get to know him a little.

if all things were equal--saban at bama and meyer still at florida i might give the edge to urban straight up.

by equal im not knocking ohio state im saying they are both in the same conference, no big distance factor for most kids being recruited, fairly close on the weather ect.

with meyer now at ohio state im guessing he would have the edge with great lakes kids and saban with southern kids.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:50 PM

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OSU did not recruit Green all that heavily. The fact they had, as you call it, a bad year can often draw players to the program as all they see is early playing time. I won't trash SCUM's recruiting this year, but to base your ranking on one year, when OSU has done well with recruiting is short-sighted, at best, and clearly naive.
zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:42 PM

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zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
go back to clown school, son  disbelief
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Posted: 2/2/2013 8:37 AM

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zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
Follow recruiting at all?  OSU stopped recruiting Green MONTHS ago... but hey, thanks for playing.  

OSU has the better class on average stars with Scout.  Flat out better class as ranked by Every single other major recruiting service!  Rivals OSU 4, um 6,  ESPN  OSU 4, um 5, 247 OSU 2 um 4

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Posted: 2/2/2013 9:26 AM

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Urban has perhaps the most impressive track record in the country in knowing how to win (cliches aside).  Your boy Hoke still has some explaining to do.
zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.

Hoke...as in joke
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Posted: 2/2/2013 9:47 AM

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BuckMike wrote: Ya...since this list is just recruiting and not coaching...Kiffin should be top 5.
RipAndRattle wrote: Lane Kiffin over hoke anyday
looking at the list of USC recruits, LK should be number 2-3.... every recruit is either a 4 or 5*...

The kid can't coach, but he can recruit...

Best recruiters in the last 15 years... are Pete, Nick, and Urban... hands down.

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zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
Number 5 should be "flipped" OFF-THE-LIST,
Maybe they saw the A- Grade he received from his fans?biggrin
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Posted: 2/2/2013 12:37 PM

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KDawg59 wrote:
zbforged wrote: No, my number 1 coach would be that guy from ole miss.
Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss. It now looks like he is going to sign the number one class in the country. No joke.
it's not even close,if you can get oos black student athls.from the north to come to ole miss,despite the states LONG oppressive history of treating black people,then you can flat out SPEND,i mean recruit!!,hugh freeze has to be the greatest recruiter EVER!!
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Posted: 2/2/2013 1:19 PM

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zbforged wrote: Number 2 and 5 should be flipped. Hoke has the number 1 class in the nation. He got Derrick Green to commit when Urban couldn't. Not saying that Urban is not a great recruiter but because he missed on more of his plan A guys then Hoke did. You win in the trenches and Hoke has some elite lines coming in. Urban seems to have trouble getting his plan A guys on the offensive line. Urban is a great recruiter, but Hoke has done a tremendous job and it shows by having the number 1 class in the nation coming off a bad season. I expect a great season this year and another number 1 class.
Lets see if that statement is True (I always check anything "stated-as-fact" by a Mich fan)

As of 1pm on Feb 2nd, 2013:

ESPN                 Rivals             Scout(ave-star for OVERSIGNERS)  247 Composite
1. Florida          1. Florida         1. USC                                       1. Bama
2. Bama            2. ND              2. THE OSUbiggrin                             2. THE OSUbiggrin
3. ND                3. Bama          3. ND                                         3. Florida
4. THE OSUbiggrin    4. THE OSUbiggrin   4. Texas
                       5. LSU

SO YOU SIR......Mr. zbforged......ARE A LIAR!!!

The 247 composite is a equally-wt. ave. of all the major services
Using average stars on Scout, "equalizes", makes a level playing field for "all" teams, NOT just the OVERSIGNERS
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Posted: 2/2/2013 1:54 PM

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marlew45 wrote:
KDawg59 wrote:
zbforged wrote: No, my number 1 coach would be that guy from ole miss.
Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss. It now looks like he is going to sign the number one class in the country. No joke.
it's not even close,if you can get oos black student athls.from the north to come to ole miss,despite the states LONG oppressive history of treating black people,then you can flat out SPEND,i mean recruit!!,hugh freeze has to be the greatest recruiter EVER!!
You are stuck in a time delay wrap, man. The truth be known blacks have been victims of racism in the north more than than in the south for a very long time. Mississippi of the sixites is not mississippi now. I mean most of Mississippi's team is black and white people in south are not afraid of black people or act different around black people. Accuse ole miss of buying players fine, but don't go the race card route, when oxford, is a very good college town and by all accounts treats their black players and students with respect....
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