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Re: OT: Is Joe Flacco mentally challenged?

Posted: 1/31/2013 1:34 PM

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I like calling people human garbage because garbage is never offended from being compared to a human.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 3:31 PM

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Manning is 9-11 in the playoffs with one SB ring. If the Ravens win on Sunday Flacco will be 10-4 in the playoffs and one SB ring.

I don't think think he deserves Manning type money but he deserves a lot more than 4.6 million.

If NYC has a blizzard on SB Sunday and the game can not kickoff and they have to postpone. The decision to have a cold weather city without a dome will be one of the biggest debacles in NFL history.

Tho he probably should not have used the word retarded (which he recognizes), his opinions are understandable.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 3:41 PM

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The only people he should have called retarded were the Refs and the the Denver coaching staff for giving his team a win in the 2nd round of the playoffs.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 3:57 PM

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I agree with him 100% about the cold weather super bowl. and flacco outplayed tom brady in the AFC champ game back to back years. if you were a GM you could pay him what you want, but he has his team playing for a super bowl on sunday.
Thenationalchampions wrote: 1) He thinks he's worth $20 mil/yr, and has claimed in the past to be in the same class as Brees, Brady, Manning. uh no. not even close even if he wins it.

2) He says its "retarded" to have a Super Bowl in cold weather.  Does he realize New York is hosting a SB in a couple years w/o a dome?  Does he realize other cold weather cities would love to host a SB?

“Yeah, I think it’s retarded. I probably shouldn’t say that. I think it’s stupid. If you want a Super Bowl, put a retractable dome on your stadium. Then you can get one. Other than that I don’t really like the idea. I don’t think people would react very well to it, or be glad to play anybody in that kind of weather.”

I wonder what the people in Baltimore think about this.  Personally, I think it sucks.  He plays football in cold weather anyway -is he worried about the half time show?  What the hell does he care? 

3) He used the word "retarded," while being interviewed.  Not a good decision for a quarterback who thinks he's in the same class as Manning.  I realize he caught himself afterwards and apologized, so give him credit for that; but I highly doubt Brady, Brees, or Manning ever make that mistake in Super Bowl week.  duh.

That said, go Niners.  Can't have Ray Lewis or Flucko winning this.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 4:05 PM

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Flacco is not mentally challenged.

Flacco is testing to see if any NFL GMS are.

 
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Posted: 1/31/2013 11:19 PM

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A generation of hippies has raised a generation of pussies.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 8:23 AM

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Wow, I've never known a doctor that used the term "retarded" for the disabled, let alone his own daughter. Why not use Down's Syndrome or just disabled?

While some PC might be annoying, as professionals, we must be aware that being PC certainly has its place in the work environment, as it does in the media.  It's not that hard to know where/when/what is appropriate and likewise where/when/what is inappropriate.

Your post reminds me of Matt Dillon in Something About Mary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLBLX6GPNc
mattaformayor wrote: The wave of political correctness that has invaded modern America bothers me too. In many cases, it's a way to control speech (and, ultimately, thought) in order to advance one's political agenda. I also consider myself very difficult to offend. However, I am (mildly) offended by the use of the word 'retarded', as many people currently use it.

My daughter is severly/profoundly mentally retarded. And, yes, that is phrase that I use when I describe her condition to others. I'm a doctor and I'm well aware of the 'correct' phrases, both medically and politically. The reason I continue to use it is that it seems to me that 'retarded', when someone is actually retarded, is the simplest and most descriptive word that can be used and that will be understood by most people.

The (mild) offense comes into play when people use the word retarded--in an ironic way, or in a way that is intended to be humerous--to describe someone or something that they think is stupid.

Maybe I'm just a little sensitive because of my situation, but I don't believe that mature adults should use phrases like "that's so retarded", just as they should avoid saying things like "you're such an abortion", or "you're nothing but a brain tumor".

Of course, people are free to say whatever they please, within the bounds of the law, so many of them will continue to show their insensitivity and ignorance on a daily basis. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that truly mature adults are not as common as one would think or as one would hope.

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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:39 AM

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"1480–90;  < latin retardāre  to delay, protract, equivalent to re- re- + tardāre  to loiter, be slow, derivative of tardus  slow; see tardy."

The origin of the word in 15th Century Latin says nothing about people with mental deficiencies.

Retarded has been used to describe people who have physical delays as well.

People have been called stupid, dumb, idiots, morons, etc... If a person were to say "that's stupid, dumb, idiotic, moronic, etc..." should that be offensive as well?

I just hate seeing people arguing about words, when there are real battles to be fought for rights, for the environment, etc.... etc....


mattaformayor wrote: The wave of political correctness that has invaded modern America bothers me too. In many cases, it's a way to control speech (and, ultimately, thought) in order to advance one's political agenda. I also consider myself very difficult to offend. However, I am (mildly) offended by the use of the word 'retarded', as many people currently use it.

My daughter is severly/profoundly mentally retarded. And, yes, that is phrase that I use when I describe her condition to others. I'm a doctor and I'm well aware of the 'correct' phrases, both medically and politically. The reason I continue to use it is that it seems to me that 'retarded', when someone is actually retarded, is the simplest and most descriptive word that can be used and that will be understood by most people.

The (mild) offense comes into play when people use the word retarded--in an ironic way, or in a way that is intended to be humerous--to describe someone or something that they think is stupid.

Maybe I'm just a little sensitive because of my situation, but I don't believe that mature adults should use phrases like "that's so retarded", just as they should avoid saying things like "you're such an abortion", or "you're nothing but a brain tumor".

Of course, people are free to say whatever they please, within the bounds of the law, so many of them will continue to show their insensitivity and ignorance on a daily basis. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that truly mature adults are not as common as one would think or as one would hope.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 11:32 AM

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brutusisanut wrote: Manning is 9-11 in the playoffs with one SB ring. If the Ravens win on Sunday Flacco will be 10-4 in the playoffs and one SB ring.

I don't think think he deserves Manning type money but he deserves a lot more than 4.6 million.

If NYC has a blizzard on SB Sunday and the game can not kickoff and they have to postpone. The decision to have a cold weather city without a dome will be one of the biggest debacles in NFL history.

Tho he probably should not have used the word retarded (which he recognizes), his opinions are understandable.

That’s complete fen' bull ****

Way before the super bowl (which ruined pro football). They took turns playing at home stadiums. I don't recall ever fen' seeing a (championship game postponed). Fen' football was not invented to be played in a stupid fen' dome!!

 

Now there trying to ruin college football as well with all these  inside fen’ dome stadiums being picked for the Championship games..

 

The funny part is, most of the fen’ domes are in cities where they don’t need to worry about weather (There all a bunch of pussies!!)

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Posted: 2/1/2013 12:23 PM

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Pretty much support everything he said.....at least it's what I would say if I were him....#1. you want a cocky QB who thinks he's the best and #2 anyone who thinks the word retarded is retarded is indeed retarded. F you guys.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 4:26 PM

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Anyone who is offended by use of the word "retarded" is retarded

In today's language "retard" is a term for stupidity. It has zero connotation to being handicapped.

Just like "gay" does not mean happy anymore.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 7:51 PM

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I don't say Down Syndrome because she doesn't have Down Syndrome. I don't say disabled because that isn't specific (she could be physically disabled, mentally disabled, emotionally disabled, or any combination thereof).

I don't use the term in a professional environment, I use it with lay people. It's a word that everyone understands and I think people appreciate me describing her in that way because they instantly know what I mean.

I have never gotten a single negative reaction, and I'm a pretty sensitive person when it comes to other people's reactions about things I do or say. I still think it's a respectful term, no matter what you or the PC police have to say about it. Yeah, that Something About Mary reference has a lot in common with me and my situation with my daughter.
Thenationalchampions wrote: Wow, I've never known a doctor that used the term "retarded" for the disabled, let alone his own daughter. Why not use Down's Syndrome or just disabled?

While some PC might be annoying, as professionals, we must be aware that being PC certainly has its place in the work environment, as it does in the media.  It's not that hard to know where/when/what is appropriate and likewise where/when/what is inappropriate.

Your post reminds me of Matt Dillon in Something About Mary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLBLX6GPNc
mattaformayor wrote: The wave of political correctness that has invaded modern America bothers me too. In many cases, it's a way to control speech (and, ultimately, thought) in order to advance one's political agenda. I also consider myself very difficult to offend. However, I am (mildly) offended by the use of the word 'retarded', as many people currently use it.

My daughter is severly/profoundly mentally retarded. And, yes, that is phrase that I use when I describe her condition to others. I'm a doctor and I'm well aware of the 'correct' phrases, both medically and politically. The reason I continue to use it is that it seems to me that 'retarded', when someone is actually retarded, is the simplest and most descriptive word that can be used and that will be understood by most people.

The (mild) offense comes into play when people use the word retarded--in an ironic way, or in a way that is intended to be humerous--to describe someone or something that they think is stupid.

Maybe I'm just a little sensitive because of my situation, but I don't believe that mature adults should use phrases like "that's so retarded", just as they should avoid saying things like "you're such an abortion", or "you're nothing but a brain tumor".

Of course, people are free to say whatever they please, within the bounds of the law, so many of them will continue to show their insensitivity and ignorance on a daily basis. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that truly mature adults are not as common as one would think or as one would hope.

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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:54 PM

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Not that you need my permission for how to refer to your daughter, but I think this makes perfect sense.  Disability is far too generic.
mattaformayor wrote: I don't say Down Syndrome because she doesn't have Down Syndrome. I don't say disabled because that isn't specific (she could be physically disabled, mentally disabled, emotionally disabled, or any combination thereof).

I don't use the term in a professional environment, I use it with lay people. It's a word that everyone understands and I think people appreciate me describing her in that way because they instantly know what I mean.

I have never gotten a single negative reaction, and I'm a pretty sensitive person when it comes to other people's reactions about things I do or say. I still think it's a respectful term, no matter what you or the PC police have to say about it. Yeah, that Something About Mary reference has a lot in common with me and my situation with my daughter.
Thenationalchampions wrote: Wow, I've never known a doctor that used the term "retarded" for the disabled, let alone his own daughter. Why not use Down's Syndrome or just disabled?

While some PC might be annoying, as professionals, we must be aware that being PC certainly has its place in the work environment, as it does in the media.  It's not that hard to know where/when/what is appropriate and likewise where/when/what is inappropriate.

Your post reminds me of Matt Dillon in Something About Mary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLBLX6GPNc
mattaformayor wrote: The wave of political correctness that has invaded modern America bothers me too. In many cases, it's a way to control speech (and, ultimately, thought) in order to advance one's political agenda. I also consider myself very difficult to offend. However, I am (mildly) offended by the use of the word 'retarded', as many people currently use it.

My daughter is severly/profoundly mentally retarded. And, yes, that is phrase that I use when I describe her condition to others. I'm a doctor and I'm well aware of the 'correct' phrases, both medically and politically. The reason I continue to use it is that it seems to me that 'retarded', when someone is actually retarded, is the simplest and most descriptive word that can be used and that will be understood by most people.

The (mild) offense comes into play when people use the word retarded--in an ironic way, or in a way that is intended to be humerous--to describe someone or something that they think is stupid.

Maybe I'm just a little sensitive because of my situation, but I don't believe that mature adults should use phrases like "that's so retarded", just as they should avoid saying things like "you're such an abortion", or "you're nothing but a brain tumor".

Of course, people are free to say whatever they please, within the bounds of the law, so many of them will continue to show their insensitivity and ignorance on a daily basis. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that truly mature adults are not as common as one would think or as one would hope.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:24 AM

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smallbuckeye wrote: It would have been great to have Flacco at OSU, instead we got NFL losers like Hoying, Troy Smith and Pryor to be proud of.

biggrin Good point.  and what did Oakland pay that bum from LSU?
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Posted: 2/2/2013 5:29 AM

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Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Breese. . . put these guys on any team and they are pretty much instantly vastly improved, perhaps even contenders.

Can the same be said of Flacco? Just my opinion, but I think not.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 8:23 AM

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im not the pc police, my post was about decision making and professionalism, something you ought to know as a "doctor."  

btw, lol Flacco on national TV last night, "This is ****** awesome man." Sorry, I want my QB to be a little more self-aware.
mattaformayor wrote: I don't say Down Syndrome because she doesn't have Down Syndrome. I don't say disabled because that isn't specific (she could be physically disabled, mentally disabled, emotionally disabled, or any combination thereof).

I don't use the term in a professional environment, I use it with lay people. It's a word that everyone understands and I think people appreciate me describing her in that way because they instantly know what I mean.

I have never gotten a single negative reaction, and I'm a pretty sensitive person when it comes to other people's reactions about things I do or say. I still think it's a respectful term, no matter what you or the PC police have to say about it. Yeah, that Something About Mary reference has a lot in common with me and my situation with my daughter.
Thenationalchampions wrote: Wow, I've never known a doctor that used the term "retarded" for the disabled, let alone his own daughter. Why not use Down's Syndrome or just disabled?

While some PC might be annoying, as professionals, we must be aware that being PC certainly has its place in the work environment, as it does in the media.  It's not that hard to know where/when/what is appropriate and likewise where/when/what is inappropriate.

Your post reminds me of Matt Dillon in Something About Mary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLBLX6GPNc
mattaformayor wrote: The wave of political correctness that has invaded modern America bothers me too. In many cases, it's a way to control speech (and, ultimately, thought) in order to advance one's political agenda. I also consider myself very difficult to offend. However, I am (mildly) offended by the use of the word 'retarded', as many people currently use it.

My daughter is severly/profoundly mentally retarded. And, yes, that is phrase that I use when I describe her condition to others. I'm a doctor and I'm well aware of the 'correct' phrases, both medically and politically. The reason I continue to use it is that it seems to me that 'retarded', when someone is actually retarded, is the simplest and most descriptive word that can be used and that will be understood by most people.

The (mild) offense comes into play when people use the word retarded--in an ironic way, or in a way that is intended to be humerous--to describe someone or something that they think is stupid.

Maybe I'm just a little sensitive because of my situation, but I don't believe that mature adults should use phrases like "that's so retarded", just as they should avoid saying things like "you're such an abortion", or "you're nothing but a brain tumor".

Of course, people are free to say whatever they please, within the bounds of the law, so many of them will continue to show their insensitivity and ignorance on a daily basis. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that truly mature adults are not as common as one would think or as one would hope.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 10:18 AM

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I didn't say you were/are the PC police. Read it again. Why is the word doctor in quotes? Just curious.


Thenationalchampions wrote: im not the pc police, my post was about decision making and professionalism, something you ought to know as a "doctor."  

btw, lol Flacco on national TV last night, "This is ****** awesome man." Sorry, I want my QB to be a little more self-aware.
mattaformayor wrote: I don't say Down Syndrome because she doesn't have Down Syndrome. I don't say disabled because that isn't specific (she could be physically disabled, mentally disabled, emotionally disabled, or any combination thereof).

I don't use the term in a professional environment, I use it with lay people. It's a word that everyone understands and I think people appreciate me describing her in that way because they instantly know what I mean.

I have never gotten a single negative reaction, and I'm a pretty sensitive person when it comes to other people's reactions about things I do or say. I still think it's a respectful term, no matter what you or the PC police have to say about it. Yeah, that Something About Mary reference has a lot in common with me and my situation with my daughter.
Thenationalchampions wrote: Wow, I've never known a doctor that used the term "retarded" for the disabled, let alone his own daughter. Why not use Down's Syndrome or just disabled?

While some PC might be annoying, as professionals, we must be aware that being PC certainly has its place in the work environment, as it does in the media.  It's not that hard to know where/when/what is appropriate and likewise where/when/what is inappropriate.

Your post reminds me of Matt Dillon in Something About Mary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLBLX6GPNc
mattaformayor wrote: The wave of political correctness that has invaded modern America bothers me too. In many cases, it's a way to control speech (and, ultimately, thought) in order to advance one's political agenda. I also consider myself very difficult to offend. However, I am (mildly) offended by the use of the word 'retarded', as many people currently use it.

My daughter is severly/profoundly mentally retarded. And, yes, that is phrase that I use when I describe her condition to others. I'm a doctor and I'm well aware of the 'correct' phrases, both medically and politically. The reason I continue to use it is that it seems to me that 'retarded', when someone is actually retarded, is the simplest and most descriptive word that can be used and that will be understood by most people.

The (mild) offense comes into play when people use the word retarded--in an ironic way, or in a way that is intended to be humerous--to describe someone or something that they think is stupid.

Maybe I'm just a little sensitive because of my situation, but I don't believe that mature adults should use phrases like "that's so retarded", just as they should avoid saying things like "you're such an abortion", or "you're nothing but a brain tumor".

Of course, people are free to say whatever they please, within the bounds of the law, so many of them will continue to show their insensitivity and ignorance on a daily basis. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that truly mature adults are not as common as one would think or as one would hope.

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Posted: 2/4/2013 3:47 PM

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no reason, just emphasizing your profession. what kind of doctor are you if you don't mind me asking?
mattaformayor wrote: I didn't say you were/are the PC police. Read it again. Why is the word doctor in quotes? Just curious.


Thenationalchampions wrote: im not the pc police, my post was about decision making and professionalism, something you ought to know as a "doctor."  

btw, lol Flacco on national TV last night, "This is ****** awesome man." Sorry, I want my QB to be a little more self-aware.
mattaformayor wrote: I don't say Down Syndrome because she doesn't have Down Syndrome. I don't say disabled because that isn't specific (she could be physically disabled, mentally disabled, emotionally disabled, or any combination thereof).

I don't use the term in a professional environment, I use it with lay people. It's a word that everyone understands and I think people appreciate me describing her in that way because they instantly know what I mean.

I have never gotten a single negative reaction, and I'm a pretty sensitive person when it comes to other people's reactions about things I do or say. I still think it's a respectful term, no matter what you or the PC police have to say about it. Yeah, that Something About Mary reference has a lot in common with me and my situation with my daughter.
Thenationalchampions wrote: Wow, I've never known a doctor that used the term "retarded" for the disabled, let alone his own daughter. Why not use Down's Syndrome or just disabled?

While some PC might be annoying, as professionals, we must be aware that being PC certainly has its place in the work environment, as it does in the media.  It's not that hard to know where/when/what is appropriate and likewise where/when/what is inappropriate.

Your post reminds me of Matt Dillon in Something About Mary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLBLX6GPNc
mattaformayor wrote: The wave of political correctness that has invaded modern America bothers me too. In many cases, it's a way to control speech (and, ultimately, thought) in order to advance one's political agenda. I also consider myself very difficult to offend. However, I am (mildly) offended by the use of the word 'retarded', as many people currently use it.

My daughter is severly/profoundly mentally retarded. And, yes, that is phrase that I use when I describe her condition to others. I'm a doctor and I'm well aware of the 'correct' phrases, both medically and politically. The reason I continue to use it is that it seems to me that 'retarded', when someone is actually retarded, is the simplest and most descriptive word that can be used and that will be understood by most people.

The (mild) offense comes into play when people use the word retarded--in an ironic way, or in a way that is intended to be humerous--to describe someone or something that they think is stupid.

Maybe I'm just a little sensitive because of my situation, but I don't believe that mature adults should use phrases like "that's so retarded", just as they should avoid saying things like "you're such an abortion", or "you're nothing but a brain tumor".

Of course, people are free to say whatever they please, within the bounds of the law, so many of them will continue to show their insensitivity and ignorance on a daily basis. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that truly mature adults are not as common as one would think or as one would hope.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 5:19 PM

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I am with mattaformayor.  I too have what I refer to as a "special needs" daughter who sounds like she is similar to matta's.  I cringe when I hear the term retarded used as an insult.  I understand as I used that term as a kid too.  Not the pc police just bugs me.
mattaformayor wrote: I didn't say you were/are the PC police. Read it again. Why is the word doctor in quotes? Just curious.


Thenationalchampions wrote: im not the pc police, my post was about decision making and professionalism, something you ought to know as a "doctor."  

btw, lol Flacco on national TV last night, "This is ****** awesome man." Sorry, I want my QB to be a little more self-aware.
mattaformayor wrote: I don't say Down Syndrome because she doesn't have Down Syndrome. I don't say disabled because that isn't specific (she could be physically disabled, mentally disabled, emotionally disabled, or any combination thereof).

I don't use the term in a professional environment, I use it with lay people. It's a word that everyone understands and I think people appreciate me describing her in that way because they instantly know what I mean.

I have never gotten a single negative reaction, and I'm a pretty sensitive person when it comes to other people's reactions about things I do or say. I still think it's a respectful term, no matter what you or the PC police have to say about it. Yeah, that Something About Mary reference has a lot in common with me and my situation with my daughter.
Thenationalchampions wrote: Wow, I've never known a doctor that used the term "retarded" for the disabled, let alone his own daughter. Why not use Down's Syndrome or just disabled?

While some PC might be annoying, as professionals, we must be aware that being PC certainly has its place in the work environment, as it does in the media.  It's not that hard to know where/when/what is appropriate and likewise where/when/what is inappropriate.

Your post reminds me of Matt Dillon in Something About Mary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toLBLX6GPNc
mattaformayor wrote: The wave of political correctness that has invaded modern America bothers me too. In many cases, it's a way to control speech (and, ultimately, thought) in order to advance one's political agenda. I also consider myself very difficult to offend. However, I am (mildly) offended by the use of the word 'retarded', as many people currently use it.

My daughter is severly/profoundly mentally retarded. And, yes, that is phrase that I use when I describe her condition to others. I'm a doctor and I'm well aware of the 'correct' phrases, both medically and politically. The reason I continue to use it is that it seems to me that 'retarded', when someone is actually retarded, is the simplest and most descriptive word that can be used and that will be understood by most people.

The (mild) offense comes into play when people use the word retarded--in an ironic way, or in a way that is intended to be humerous--to describe someone or something that they think is stupid.

Maybe I'm just a little sensitive because of my situation, but I don't believe that mature adults should use phrases like "that's so retarded", just as they should avoid saying things like "you're such an abortion", or "you're nothing but a brain tumor".

Of course, people are free to say whatever they please, within the bounds of the law, so many of them will continue to show their insensitivity and ignorance on a daily basis. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that truly mature adults are not as common as one would think or as one would hope.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 5:40 PM

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The only Mental Challenge Joe Flacco is going to have is to what to do with that 6 yr / 108M contract.

NIXUS (effort), AGNITIO (knowledge), CIVITAS(citizenship)

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