BigDroppa wrote: Ok, we got JP in the house
34 under new ownership as Jetmanlee,
where is Big and Deep ?

RJSimmons wrote: Once again, I don't care what someone else said they were using. That doesn't concern me. I believe they were dirty on something, for the NCG. What that substance was, is not relevant.
But the clearly had a better chemist than ND.

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--- Jetmanlee wrote:

Taribor wrote:Is anyone under the illusion that not every single big time college program in the nation, to include OSU, has players screwing around with PEDs?

Sure, they are, but this Deer velvet spray, is not peds, it is junk..

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34011 wrote:

BigDroppa wrote: Ok, we got JP in the house
34 under new ownership as Jetmanlee,
where is Big and Deep ?

You MOFO's are full of shet. I came by for a week and no bama threads and now you guys have bama degrage sickness. Lord, have mercy you boys. I have been deep into recruiting and you guys have your heads up some Kiwi Deers Azz. Hell, I work in New Zealand where they harvest the antler velvet and no one over their use's that shet, but the asian's.
   Now you calling me somebody else, it is recruiting season you know. The saying on tiderinsider, is we are all jacked up on mountain dew and antler juice. You guys are going at. Just wait bama is going to be soversigned by about ten recruits on signing day when we sign the number one class in the land again.  Then our S/C coach will put them on a antler diet, that make the biggest, strongest, fastest, and meanest mothers in the land...
    I have used deer antler spray before and will say that it does improve the old sex life a little, I was banging my ex for awhile after I started taking it and she was pretty impressed. After a while I lost interest in screwing her and working out, so all good things come to a end.

DeepSthBoy wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote: Bama all jacked up on MT. Dew and Deer antler jucie. Only in america, baby. That is right folks Drink some Mt. Dew and Spray some Deer Antler juice under your tounge  two days before the big game and boom you will win. LSU was on the same stuff before playing tOSU, just watch and see.

I honestly hope that you believe that. It is mindless pablum like this that sustains me on some days. Thanks for your nonsensical shot of adrenaline.

va1bucksfan1 wrote:

DeepSthBoy wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote: Bama all jacked up on MT. Dew and Deer antler jucie. Only in america, baby. That is right folks Drink some Mt. Dew and Spray some Deer Antler juice under your tounge  two days before the big game and boom you will win. LSU was on the same stuff before playing tOSU, just watch and see.

I honestly hope that you believe that. It is mindless pablum like this that sustains me on some days. Thanks for your nonsensical shot of adrenaline.

I love it when one stupid Bama gump doesn't realize he's talking to another stupid Bama gump.

RJSimmons wrote: That's your opinion and you are welcome to it. But don't give us the ol' "they passed the tests before and after the game " routine. Do I need to list the number of dopers that passes every drug test?
Lance Armstrong,
Roger Clemmons
Barry Bonds
Mark McGuire...........need I continue?

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--- Jetmanlee wrote:

Well bama passed all test before and after the title games all three years except one year and that was Robbie Green for pot. What the substance was is not relvathat'snt because their is no secert substance, man. You guys get more like the barners every day. 

RJSimmons wrote: Once again, I don't care what someone else said they were using. That doesn't concern me. I believe they were dirty on something, for the NCG. What that substance was, is not relevant.
But the clearly had a better chemist than ND.

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--- Jetmanlee wrote:

Taribor wrote:Is anyone under the illusion that not every single big time college program in the nation, to include OSU, has players screwing around with PEDs?

Sure, they are, but this Deer velvet spray, is not peds, it is junk..

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hellbound911 wrote: I'd like to see some real tests on it. There is the placebo effect. I assume it is band for a reason but it could be that the NCAA banned it instead if testing.

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Gotta be honest, I have a few buddies on it and it works wonders. They started doing it after they looked it up when the Raiders HC got caught marketing it.

Not trying to blast Bama (lots of players on lots of teams are doing it), but if you think it doesn't have a big effect, you either are uneducated on the substance, or your defending your team.

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--- JPdub wrote:

I'm not surprised we have football players that are dumb enough to believe that trailer-made deer spray is actually going to work. Or that it can stop cell phone waves, lol.

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Jetmanlee wrote: Well it may help those guys are pretty rich compared  to alabama players man. Truth is their is no test for increased HGH levels I believe, you can say the same at tOSU or many other schools, but deer antler spray, really... You have it booking wrong dude and you know it.

rbltc27 wrote: Gotta be honest, I have a few buddies on it and it works wonders. They started doing it after they looked it up when the Raiders HC got caught marketing it.

Not trying to blast Bama (lots of players on lots of teams are doing it), but if you think it doesn't have a big effect, you either are uneducated on the substance, or your defending your team.

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--- JPdub wrote:

I'm not surprised we have football players that are dumb enough to believe that trailer-made deer spray is actually going to work. Or that it can stop cell phone waves, lol.

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irondoc wrote: It's garbage. Did you ever hear of a placebo affect? Or the new sneaker affect. 7 year old gets new sneakers and he runs " faster ".
I've been around top strength athletes for a long time . Louie Simmons and his crowd. Dave Tate. World record setters. I know what works . This stuff is silly. As is crossfit .
Test , dianabol , anadrol 50, winstrol deca are huge in lifting. I've seen hundreds of guys use it. Sorry, forgot to say dude there.

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--- rbltc27 wrote:


False. Seen it work first hand. Huge for Cross Fit
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--- JPdub wrote:

No offense, but you and your buddies are probably the type that wear those metal bracelets because you think it helps balance your ions or whatever  

From the ESPN article:

However, a professor at Johns Hopkins University told the Baltimore Sun that, despite SWATS' claims, there isn't an acceptable scientific way that IGF-1 can be effectively delivered orally. 

"If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don't need to get shots anymore," Dr. Roberto Salvatori told the newspaper. "It's just simply not possible for it to come from a spray."


You guys need to get a refund, and stay away from the snake oil salesmen.

rbltc27 wrote: Gotta be honest, I have a few buddies on it and it works wonders. They started doing it after they looked it up when the Raiders HC got caught marketing it.

Not trying to blast Bama (lots of players on lots of teams are doing it), but if you think it doesn't have a big effect, you either are uneducated on the substance, or your defending your team.

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--- JPdub wrote:

I'm not surprised we have football players that are dumb enough to believe that trailer-made deer spray is actually going to work. Or that it can stop cell phone waves, lol.

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irondoc wrote: It's garbage. Did you ever hear of a placebo affect? Or the new sneaker affect. 7 year old gets new sneakers and he runs " faster ".
I've been around top strength athletes for a long time . Louie Simmons and his crowd. Dave Tate. World record setters. I know what works . This stuff is silly. As is crossfit .
Test , dianabol , anadrol 50, winstrol deca are huge in lifting. I've seen hundreds of guys use it. Sorry, forgot to say dude there.

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--- rbltc27 wrote:


False. Seen it work first hand. Huge for Cross Fit
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--- JPdub wrote:

No offense, but you and your buddies are probably the type that wear those metal bracelets because you think it helps balance your ions or whatever  

From the ESPN article:

However, a professor at Johns Hopkins University told the Baltimore Sun that, despite SWATS' claims, there isn't an acceptable scientific way that IGF-1 can be effectively delivered orally. 

"If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don't need to get shots anymore," Dr. Roberto Salvatori told the newspaper. "It's just simply not possible for it to come from a spray."


You guys need to get a refund, and stay away from the snake oil salesmen.

rbltc27 wrote: Gotta be honest, I have a few buddies on it and it works wonders. They started doing it after they looked it up when the Raiders HC got caught marketing it.

Not trying to blast Bama (lots of players on lots of teams are doing it), but if you think it doesn't have a big effect, you either are uneducated on the substance, or your defending your team.

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--- JPdub wrote:

I'm not surprised we have football players that are dumb enough to believe that trailer-made deer spray is actually going to work. Or that it can stop cell phone waves, lol.

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JPdub wrote:

buckwild23 wrote:

JPdub wrote: I'm not surprised we have football players that are dumb enough to believe that trailer-made deer spray is actually going to work. Or that it can stop cell phone waves, lol.

PEDS and Oversigning baby!!!!  It must suck being a fan of a consistently cheating program!!!

LMAO at you and your worthless titles....BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Nick Saban ===== FRAUD!!  BUSTED!!!!!  That FRAUD has NO CONTROL over that worthless program.  I love it!!!

Isn't OSU still on NCAA probation for cheating? 

irondoc wrote: Steroids don't protect your brain. It's always been vulnerable , it's just that it's studied better now. They know more.

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--- PapaJoesBucket wrote:

at this point it is really hard to believe any professional athlete in just about any sport doesn't use some banned substance(s) - there is just too much money and fame involved to think those dum dums wouldn't do everything they possibly can to make the million dollar paycheck

the NFL is full of manufactured goons who think they are above the law and could care less about a rulebook - that mindset began in college...

probably most college football players who actually play do some sort of chicanery - every single former d1 football player I know has all kinds of stories about what really goes on

it's kinda funny they are all blaming the helmets and the rules for their misery

no mention of the toxins they gulped down or the  injections or the size/speed differential between now and lets say 30 years ago

let's go ahead and illiminate kick-off to make the game 'safer' *rolls eyes*

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a helmet is not going to protect your brain from a manufactured human disguised as a mack truck either

irondoc wrote: Steroids don't protect your brain. It's always been vulnerable , it's just that it's studied better now. They know more.

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--- PapaJoesBucket wrote:

at this point it is really hard to believe any professional athlete in just about any sport doesn't use some banned substance(s) - there is just too much money and fame involved to think those dum dums wouldn't do everything they possibly can to make the million dollar paycheck

the NFL is full of manufactured goons who think they are above the law and could care less about a rulebook - that mindset began in college...

probably most college football players who actually play do some sort of chicanery - every single former d1 football player I know has all kinds of stories about what really goes on

it's kinda funny they are all blaming the helmets and the rules for their misery

no mention of the toxins they gulped down or the  injections or the size/speed differential between now and lets say 30 years ago

let's go ahead and illiminate kick-off to make the game 'safer' *rolls eyes*

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a helmet is not going to protect your brain from a manufactured human disguised as a mack truck either

irondoc wrote: It makes no difference. Guys aren't that much bigger and faster now than fifty years ago in relation to your Brian's vulnerability. 240 lb linemen and 215 lb linebackers running .1-.2 secs slower in the forty hit hard enough to cause brain trauma .
Especially with repetition . They now have MRIs, SPECT scans, PET scans and other things that weren't available in 1960. And steroids were available in the 1960s.
It is true that weight training is now almost a guarantee for everyone and guys are faster and stronger. But they were strong enough to cause brain injury back then .
It's like deer hunting . A .243 is fine on whitetail . As is a .308. As is a 30 06. All which are more powerful than than the prior listed caliber. And each hit hard enough to kill instantly in a vital area.

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--- PapaJoesBucket wrote:

irondoc wrote: Steroids don't protect your brain. It's always been vulnerable , it's just that it's studied better now. They know more.

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--- PapaJoesBucket wrote:

at this point it is really hard to believe any professional athlete in just about any sport doesn't use some banned substance(s) - there is just too much money and fame involved to think those dum dums wouldn't do everything they possibly can to make the million dollar paycheck

the NFL is full of manufactured goons who think they are above the law and could care less about a rulebook - that mindset began in college...

probably most college football players who actually play do some sort of chicanery - every single former d1 football player I know has all kinds of stories about what really goes on

it's kinda funny they are all blaming the helmets and the rules for their misery

no mention of the toxins they gulped down or the  injections or the size/speed differential between now and lets say 30 years ago

let's go ahead and illiminate kick-off to make the game 'safer' *rolls eyes*

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a helmet is not going to protect your brain from a manufactured human disguised as a mack truck either

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