Jetmanlee wrote:

OSU84 wrote: The downside to the type of success that Bama has been having recently is increased media scrutiny.

I disagree really, bama has always been targeted in the media where I live, it is nothing new. We have auburn in our state and the fact is the media in alabama has been pro auburn since the bear died and still are. The Media found out they make more money hating on bama then they make loving on bama and that is a fact. So, really, we get more of a fair shake form the national press than we do the alabama press and that is a fact..

TroyKidd wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

OSU84 wrote: The downside to the type of success that Bama has been having recently is increased media scrutiny.

I disagree really, bama has always been targeted in the media where I live, it is nothing new. We have auburn in our state and the fact is the media in alabama has been pro auburn since the bear died and still are. The Media found out they make more money hating on bama then they make loving on bama and that is a fact. So, really, we get more of a fair shake form the national press than we do the alabama press and that is a fact..

(In my best Don Corleone) It's bad for business to have one team dominate, you understand, nothing personal 



It's that simple

Jetmanlee wrote:

TroyKidd wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

OSU84 wrote: The downside to the type of success that Bama has been having recently is increased media scrutiny.

I disagree really, bama has always been targeted in the media where I live, it is nothing new. We have auburn in our state and the fact is the media in alabama has been pro auburn since the bear died and still are. The Media found out they make more money hating on bama then they make loving on bama and that is a fact. So, really, we get more of a fair shake form the national press than we do the alabama press and that is a fact..

(In my best Don Corleone) It's bad for business to have one team dominate, you understand, nothing personal 



It's that simple

Well, if think Deer antler velvet spray is going to bring down bama, you are sadly mistaken. This is a complete joke, put out by snakeoil salesman. They could have dropped this story at the BCS title game but their is nothing. Three players receiving a sells pitch is not against any rules.

Jetmanlee wrote:

osutau wrote: The meeting took place prior to the national championship game vs. LSU in January of 2012—without the knowledge of Alabama’s coaches—and was recorded by Key with a pen camera, according to the report.

Alright these guys are con artist big time, folks. Their **** don't work and the head guy use to stalk bama players in the parking lot at UA. Was caught and then got another guy and he stalks players at hotels. Here's is a video were he tells bama players he is sorry for giving LSU the chips befor their big game last year in TTown, this great. He has a boat load of video's it is crazy how these video's have not surfaced before now is really ureal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...SxYYnVfkDyOv6jA.  If watch that video you know what you are dealing with. He has others calling out the LSU S/C coach as the reason LSU lost to bama in the title game and others where he is at LSU's Hotel in Ttown stalking their players and saying he stalking their players. It is all crazy as hell.. Watch video, it is really pretty fun..

Jetmanlee wrote:

TroyKidd wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

OSU84 wrote: The downside to the type of success that Bama has been having recently is increased media scrutiny.

I disagree really, bama has always been targeted in the media where I live, it is nothing new. We have auburn in our state and the fact is the media in alabama has been pro auburn since the bear died and still are. The Media found out they make more money hating on bama then they make loving on bama and that is a fact. So, really, we get more of a fair shake form the national press than we do the alabama press and that is a fact..

(In my best Don Corleone) It's bad for business to have one team dominate, you understand, nothing personal 



It's that simple

Well, if think Deer antler velvet spray is going to bring down bama, you are sadly mistaken. This is a complete joke, put out by snakeoil salesman. They could have dropped this story at the BCS title game but their is nothing. Three players receiving a sells pitch is not against any rules.

hellbound911 wrote: How TTown didn't get UA in major hot water I have no idea. You have multiple high level players being seen dining with the man as well as signing merchandise that was being sold as well as wearing suits from the place raises a major eye brow. Of course the NCAA has looked at UA multiple times but "just not enough meat to do anything" is the phrase that was said.

Jetmanlee wrote:

OSU84 wrote: The downside to the type of success that Bama has been having recently is increased media scrutiny.

I disagree really, bama has always been targeted in the media where I live, it is nothing new. We have auburn in our state and the fact is the media in alabama has been pro auburn since the bear died and still are. The Media found out they make more money hating on bama then they make loving on bama and that is a fact. So, really, we get more of a fair shake form the national press than we do the alabama press and that is a fact..

hellbound911 wrote: How TTown didn't get UA in major hot water I have no idea. You have multiple high level players being seen dining with the man as well as signing merchandise that was being sold as well as wearing suits from the place raises a major eye brow. Of course the NCAA has looked at UA multiple times but "just not enough meat to do anything" is the phrase that was said.

Jetmanlee wrote:

osutau wrote: The meeting took place prior to the national championship game vs. LSU in January of 2012—without the knowledge of Alabama’s coaches—and was recorded by Key with a pen camera, according to the report.

Alright these guys are con artist big time, folks. Their **** don't work and the head guy use to stalk bama players in the parking lot at UA. Was caught and then got another guy and he stalks players at hotels. Here's is a video were he tells bama players he is sorry for giving LSU the chips befor their big game last year in TTown, this great. He has a boat load of video's it is crazy how these video's have not surfaced before now is really ureal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...SxYYnVfkDyOv6jA.  If watch that video you know what you are dealing with. He has others calling out the LSU S/C coach as the reason LSU lost to bama in the title game and others where he is at LSU's Hotel in Ttown stalking their players and saying he stalking their players. It is all crazy as hell.. Watch video, it is really pretty fun..

ChiTownOSUnut wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

OSU84 wrote: The downside to the type of success that Bama has been having recently is increased media scrutiny.

I disagree really, bama has always been targeted in the media where I live, it is nothing new. We have auburn in our state and the fact is the media in alabama has been pro auburn since the bear died and still are. The Media found out they make more money hating on bama then they make loving on bama and that is a fact. So, really, we get more of a fair shake form the national press than we do the alabama press and that is a fact..

Jetman, pretty much every fan base thinks the media is against their team.

Take few minutes a go to all the Scout boards. Any team that has any success complains that the NCAA and ESPN is out to get them and that no other team goes through this scrutiny. Hell, just on the first page of this board you can find fans of OSU, BAMA, and USC all complaining about the same thing.

As far as the local media goes? Of course they write more about you (good or bad) than anyone else. I would bet that the Columbus Star and even the OSU paper have 10xs negitive articles on tOSU than they do on Bama, just as I imagine the Tuscaloosa Paper has 10xs the negitive articles on Bama.

Lastly, simply writting the words "that's a fact" after your opinions does not mean they are really facts. Not trying to start something. Just a pet peeve of mine. Lots of people on here do it.

Jetmanlee wrote:   it is not against the rules to eat in the dining room. 

TroyKidd wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:   it is not against the rules to eat in the dining room. 

HA!  Tell that to the NCAA  

They busted us for EXACTLY this at the Papadakis Taverna (sp?) as well

Jetmanlee wrote: Sorry, Operation red dog, are full of dumbass's and it is not against the rules to eat in the dining room as somebody. You guys are our best compliance department how you guys missed the Deer antler spray deal is beyond me, you guys are slipping. I forgot Auburn was sticking the chips on their skin.

hellbound911 wrote: How TTown didn't get UA in major hot water I have no idea. You have multiple high level players being seen dining with the man as well as signing merchandise that was being sold as well as wearing suits from the place raises a major eye brow. Of course the NCAA has looked at UA multiple times but "just not enough meat to do anything" is the phrase that was said.

Jetmanlee wrote:

osutau wrote: The meeting took place prior to the national championship game vs. LSU in January of 2012—without the knowledge of Alabama’s coaches—and was recorded by Key with a pen camera, according to the report.

Alright these guys are con artist big time, folks. Their **** don't work and the head guy use to stalk bama players in the parking lot at UA. Was caught and then got another guy and he stalks players at hotels. Here's is a video were he tells bama players he is sorry for giving LSU the chips befor their big game last year in TTown, this great. He has a boat load of video's it is crazy how these video's have not surfaced before now is really ureal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...SxYYnVfkDyOv6jA.  If watch that video you know what you are dealing with. He has others calling out the LSU S/C coach as the reason LSU lost to bama in the title game and others where he is at LSU's Hotel in Ttown stalking their players and saying he stalking their players. It is all crazy as hell.. Watch video, it is really pretty fun..

Don’t know nothing about fen’ deer antlers, but it don’t take a rocket scientist to figure out if the Bama players were using it, so was good ole Honey Badger and his buddies at Lucky fen’ State and things should have equaled out and the best fen’ buck won!!.  

hellbound911 wrote: I agree it is likely bogus crap but again from all accounts it is, and was, illegal to use. I doubt much, if anything, comes of it though. If you are talking about eating in the dining room of a booster where you happen to purchase goods from, and are seen signing merchandise that is forsale by this person, it may be perfectly legit but from the outside looking in it looks bad.

I have a question, do you believe Pryor received extra benefits from the car lot?

Jetmanlee wrote: Sorry, Operation red dog, are full of dumbass's and it is not against the rules to eat in the dining room as somebody. You guys are our best compliance department how you guys missed the Deer antler spray deal is beyond me, you guys are slipping. I forgot Auburn was sticking the chips on their skin.

hellbound911 wrote: How TTown didn't get UA in major hot water I have no idea. You have multiple high level players being seen dining with the man as well as signing merchandise that was being sold as well as wearing suits from the place raises a major eye brow. Of course the NCAA has looked at UA multiple times but "just not enough meat to do anything" is the phrase that was said.

Jetmanlee wrote:

osutau wrote: The meeting took place prior to the national championship game vs. LSU in January of 2012—without the knowledge of Alabama’s coaches—and was recorded by Key with a pen camera, according to the report.

Alright these guys are con artist big time, folks. Their **** don't work and the head guy use to stalk bama players in the parking lot at UA. Was caught and then got another guy and he stalks players at hotels. Here's is a video were he tells bama players he is sorry for giving LSU the chips befor their big game last year in TTown, this great. He has a boat load of video's it is crazy how these video's have not surfaced before now is really ureal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...SxYYnVfkDyOv6jA.  If watch that video you know what you are dealing with. He has others calling out the LSU S/C coach as the reason LSU lost to bama in the title game and others where he is at LSU's Hotel in Ttown stalking their players and saying he stalking their players. It is all crazy as hell.. Watch video, it is really pretty fun..

Jetmanlee wrote:

TroyKidd wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:   it is not against the rules to eat in the dining room. 

HA!  Tell that to the NCAA  

They busted us for EXACTLY this at the Papadakis Taverna (sp?) as well

No they did not, USC got slammed for because of a court case which made all INFO public
from that case. Samething happened to bama in Memphis. The NCAA used the info from the court case to hammer bama, samething for USC. NCAA does not have suspenoa power. Also, tats did not bring down tOSU, it was Tressel making false statements to the ncaa that screwed over tOSU. The NCAA is pretty easy to defend against really, it is when you get the ncaa into a court case when things get hairy. If Reggie bush had paid off Loyd Lake, USC would have been just fine, dumb move on his part. JMO  The settlement shows up no matter what.  Only Reggie winning would have helped, if at all.  So why DID Reggie carry it on and on and on?  IF USC had been the source of the $$$, there wouldn't have been ANY lawsuit...

Course YEARS before that they already had all the testimony from people they were going to get...  Like Oregon... Friggin NCAA...  WTF are they waiting for???  Another infraction to show up so they can slap a LOI on Oregon too???

TroyKidd wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

TroyKidd wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:   it is not against the rules to eat in the dining room. 

HA!  Tell that to the NCAA  

They busted us for EXACTLY this at the Papadakis Taverna (sp?) as well

No they did not, USC got slammed for because of a court case which made all INFO public
from that case. Samething happened to bama in Memphis. The NCAA used the info from the court case to hammer bama, samething for USC. NCAA does not have suspenoa power. Also, tats did not bring down tOSU, it was Tressel making false statements to the ncaa that screwed over tOSU. The NCAA is pretty easy to defend against really, it is when you get the ncaa into a court case when things get hairy. If Reggie bush had paid off Loyd Lake, USC would have been just fine, dumb move on his part. JMO  The settlement shows up no matter what.  Only Reggie winning would have helped, if at all.  So why DID Reggie carry it on and on and on?  IF USC had been the source of the $$$, there wouldn't have been ANY lawsuit...

Course YEARS before that they already had all the testimony from people they were going to get...  Like Oregon... Friggin NCAA...  WTF are they waiting for???  Another infraction to show up so they can slap a LOI on Oregon too???

Buddy it's ok if you're ignorant

The NCAA found that players were eating at Papadkis Taverna an eating establishment of a former player's family that there was a "booster" involved and that it was an infraction.  Not a big one(?) but they put it on the pile as well.

Jetmanlee wrote:

ChiTownOSUnut wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

OSU84 wrote: The downside to the type of success that Bama has been having recently is increased media scrutiny.

I disagree really, bama has always been targeted in the media where I live, it is nothing new. We have auburn in our state and the fact is the media in alabama has been pro auburn since the bear died and still are. The Media found out they make more money hating on bama then they make loving on bama and that is a fact. So, really, we get more of a fair shake form the national press than we do the alabama press and that is a fact..

Jetman, pretty much every fan base thinks the media is against their team.

Take few minutes a go to all the Scout boards. Any team that has any success complains that the NCAA and ESPN is out to get them and that no other team goes through this scrutiny. Hell, just on the first page of this board you can find fans of OSU, BAMA, and USC all complaining about the same thing.

As far as the local media goes? Of course they write more about you (good or bad) than anyone else. I would bet that the Columbus Star and even the OSU paper have 10xs negitive articles on tOSU than they do on Bama, just as I imagine the Tuscaloosa Paper has 10xs the negitive articles on Bama.

Lastly, simply writting the words "that's a fact" after your opinions does not mean they are really facts. Not trying to start something. Just a pet peeve of mine. Lots of people on here do it.

The Local Media around my state sucks but the national media usually gives a much better shake, then most. Like this Deer spray, it is bogus, the whole damn thing. None of this stuff helps players perform, you can not deliver HGH thru a spray, cannot be done, that is why they can test for it all day it will never show up, never will. If it did work why would people still be taking shots.

Jetmanlee wrote:

hellbound911 wrote: I agree it is likely bogus crap but again from all accounts it is, and was, illegal to use. I doubt much, if anything, comes of it though. If you are talking about eating in the dining room of a booster where you happen to purchase goods from, and are seen signing merchandise that is forsale by this person, it may be perfectly legit but from the outside looking in it looks bad.

I have a question, do you believe Pryor received extra benefits from the car lot?

Jetmanlee wrote: Sorry, Operation red dog, are full of dumbass's and it is not against the rules to eat in the dining room as somebody. You guys are our best compliance department how you guys missed the Deer antler spray deal is beyond me, you guys are slipping. I forgot Auburn was sticking the chips on their skin.

hellbound911 wrote: How TTown didn't get UA in major hot water I have no idea. You have multiple high level players being seen dining with the man as well as signing merchandise that was being sold as well as wearing suits from the place raises a major eye brow. Of course the NCAA has looked at UA multiple times but "just not enough meat to do anything" is the phrase that was said.

Jetmanlee wrote:

osutau wrote: The meeting took place prior to the national championship game vs. LSU in January of 2012—without the knowledge of Alabama’s coaches—and was recorded by Key with a pen camera, according to the report.

Alright these guys are con artist big time, folks. Their **** don't work and the head guy use to stalk bama players in the parking lot at UA. Was caught and then got another guy and he stalks players at hotels. Here's is a video were he tells bama players he is sorry for giving LSU the chips befor their big game last year in TTown, this great. He has a boat load of video's it is crazy how these video's have not surfaced before now is really ureal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...SxYYnVfkDyOv6jA.  If watch that video you know what you are dealing with. He has others calling out the LSU S/C coach as the reason LSU lost to bama in the title game and others where he is at LSU's Hotel in Ttown stalking their players and saying he stalking their players. It is all crazy as hell.. Watch video, it is really pretty fun..

On the car deals all together, they are to easy for the ncaa catch players and schools in a lie on car deals. Pretty sure at every major college if a recruit/player shows up in a nice car or truck, that  it is checked out, because really that is the easiest thing for the NCAA to check out, think about it, Tite of the car and insurance. Now, I guess Pryor was using a different car because his was in the shop, that is one to get around it I suppose, I don't really care, never cared about the tat's or the autographs, it is all minor stuff, to me. The Pryor car deal could have been trouble but I guess, I really think the media was just piling on due to the fact Pryor was not a very likable dude. Why I hate the media. They never proved anything against pryor and cars IMO. See, I don't players getting hunderd dollar handshakes or free food at the local BBQ, or getting some free Rims for car or some free tat's or Free Pusssy or anything like that. I don't like the paying off of coaches  and preachers. Most the time these players are not getting paid their handlers are wether that be a family member, coach, preacher, or friend. JMO