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Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:29 AM
Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
I know Hankins is projected higher in the NFL but Simon was extremely disruptive.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:34 AM
Re: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
Both are excellent players, so it's hard to choose. They booth required double teams very often, but I feel like having Hankins really made it difficult for teams to run it down OSU's throat and that's a little more important than the disruption that Simon caused.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:37 AM
Re: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
That is a tough one. I loved Simon's motor but he always seemed one step slow of completely dominating. The William's injury hurt him as he had to go from the strong side to help more at Leo. That said, I am really excited to see what Spence can do with a full year of college conditioning under his belt. Washington and Bennett can nail down the strong side and rotate to help inside.
Hankins did a lot more to free up Boren at linebacker then fans realize. He did not dominate games statistically but he took up lots of offensive linemen. I am not sure if the young D tackles can do the same. Obviously Bennett, Schutt, Carter, and others will be given a shot.
Last edited 1/26/2013 11:38 AM by buckeye9chuck
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:38 AM
Re: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
You can't pick one over the other. They complemented each other and allowed the other to do their thing. If forced, you have to pick Simon for his leadership and work ethic off the field (not that Hankins did not work hard, either). Simon was doing his thing for 4 years and was a force from day one. hankins did his thing the last 2 years, and only this year did he really shine. To clarify, that is not saying Hankins wasn't a beast and a great player, nor saying Simon was better. Just saying Simon gave more in the intangibles which made him so valuable to the DL on and off the field.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 11:54 AM
Re: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
Hankins may have been better, but I truly believe that Simon's leadership anchored this 12-0 team. Someone like him is just not simply replaced that easily. |
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Posted: 1/26/2013 12:14 PM
RE: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
I'd say they're equal as in terms of losing them. Neither was more important than the other and they were a perfect complement. Like someone said, they required double teams. Losing them is gonna hurt but we are still talented on the Defensive Line. Noah Spence and Adolphus Washington are gonna be beasts and they're only Sophomores going into next season
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Posted: 1/26/2013 12:19 PM
RE: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
Hankins
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Posted: 1/26/2013 12:45 PM
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Simon by far to me. Never took a play off was very productive and had like 4 possession stops in a row against Wisconsin. Hankins took plays off and had his moments but few.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 1:20 PM
RE: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
OhiozFinezt wrote: I'd say they're equal as in terms of losing them. Neither was more important than the other and they were a perfect complement. Like someone said, they required double teams. Losing them is gonna hurt but we are still talented on the Defensive Line. Noah Spence and Adolphus Washington are gonna be beasts and they're only Sophomores going into next season Bennett, Schutt, and others also performed well when they had the opportunity. Enter Hill and Bosa, etc., and by midseason I don't think we'll be able to tell that Simon and Hankins are gone (from an onfield productivity standpoint, anyway). This is one area where Meyer has done an excellent job of reloading, and where new names are going to emerge.
Last edited 1/26/2013 1:20 PM by rayb678
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Posted: 1/26/2013 1:28 PM
RE: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
Hankins. OSU is insanely loaded with guys that can take over for Simon now and a few that definitely have the potential to be better. Bennett and Schutt are talented, they are not Hankins.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 1:30 PM
RE: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
Hankins he made it almost impossible to run the ball up the guy.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 1:55 PM
RE: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
Hankins, although he was less consistent than Simon.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 2:19 PM
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Wow can't believe people aren't saying Simon. Yes Hankins was great but Simon has more impact plays and one of the best leaders we have ever had at Ohio State. I can't think of a better one.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 2:28 PM
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Hankins is the obvious choice for the obvious reason that he still had a year of eligibility.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 2:33 PM
RE: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
rayb678 wrote:
OhiozFinezt wrote: I'd say they're equal as in terms of losing them. Neither was more important than the other and they were a perfect complement. Like someone said, they required double teams. Losing them is gonna hurt but we are still talented on the Defensive Line. Noah Spence and Adolphus Washington are gonna be beasts and they're only Sophomores going into next season
Bennett, Schutt, and others also performed well when they had the opportunity. Enter Hill and Bosa, etc., and by midseason I don't think we'll be able to tell that Simon and Hankins are gone (from an onfield productivity standpoint, anyway). This is one area where Meyer has done an excellent job of reloading, and where new names are going to emerge. You pretty much summed it up to the T |
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Posted: 1/26/2013 2:45 PM
RE: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
Were going to miss them both.
However,I’m looking at this in a completely different way!!
I’m going with Hankins.
We had John Simon for his whole career and I loved the guy and it’s time for him to move on. Hankins on the other hand could have been with us another year, so he’s the biggest loss. |
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Posted: 1/26/2013 3:03 PM
Re: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
How can you choose? Both were great players and will be missed. Hankins' run stuffing, Simon's getting to the QB and leadership on and off the field. They'll be missed but I look forward to seeing the young guys get even better! Things are still bright on defense!
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Posted: 1/26/2013 5:59 PM
Re: Bigger loss - Hankins or Simon??
simon was the leader on the defense and made all the plays when it counted. Hankins could take a double team, but he really didnt make as many game changing plays. Shazier will undoubtedly be the leader on defense next year. Shazier and Roby should both be consensus 1st team AA, and Spence and washington have chances to make all Big ten.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 10:32 AM
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Hankins because he could have returned in 2013.
Anytime you lose early to the NFL it is a big loss.
Ohio State has been dealing with this since the early 90s when Robert Smith left early.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 10:42 AM
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Oricus wrote: Hankins is the obvious choice for the obvious reason that he still had a year of eligibility. Ding Ding Ding...Give that man a cupiedoll 
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