tOSUinPHX wrote: +1

I've talked to credible people with firsthand knowledge.  Smith knew about Tatgate/Pryor and had Tressel keep his mouth shut.  JT took the fall and was the patsy.  Why Smith is still employed at this University is beyond me....and alarming.

OgdenBuckeye wrote: WORST POST EVER! LEAVE!

SMITH IS A LOSER WITH NO COMPETENCE! HE THREW TRESS UNDER THE BUS TO COVER HIMSELF AND RUINED TRESS' LEGEND IN THE EYES OF SOME...NOT MINE! TRESS IS A GOOD GUY! SMITH IS AN IDIOT WITH REGARD TO NOT IMPOSING A BOWL BAN. COST US A CHANCE FOR A NATIONAL TITLE AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!

OH AND WHEN HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE AND WE WERE THE #! OVERALL SEED HE GAVE US THE TOUGHEST ROAD AND PUT KENTUCKY AT A #4 SEED. IDIOT!

HE IS A NOTRE DAME DUDE AND NEEDS TO LEAVE! FIRE GENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thenationalchampions wrote: It's too bad so many of our fans judge his body of work only by what they see on TV, most of it related to tatgate.  All he did was defend your program from petty bs, such as discounted tattoos. Did you want him to agree w/most of the glib sports media, and concede that OSU deserved close to the death penalty over pawning rings and free tats?  Did you want him to agree w/uneducated walmart Michigan fans, that OSU systematically cheats, and it's a huge organized conspiracy that starts at the top?

What Smith has done for the OSU athletic program in regards to the dept's finances, student athletes -specifically the academic resources he has created, has been innovative, and done nothing but benefit OSU.

OSU's Athletic Dept is totally self-supporting; and it's because of Gene Smith, that the AD has transferred around $30 mil to the University in his seven years.  How many other programs can say that?  I'm guessing not most. 

Bottom line, the man is highly successful, he is a brilliant business mind (2010 Sport Business Journal Athletic Director of the Year,) and is a graduate of Notre Dame, so maybe some of you should not be showing such disrespect.

OgdenBuckeye wrote: It's funny that some think Gene is clean. He saved his own behind and tried to lessen the penalties towards our university by making Tress the scapegoat. Those in the know understand this. It's just not talked about obviously unless it's behind closed doors.

The individual who started this thread needs to wake up. He or she must be Gene's wife or relative. He's trolling no matter who he or she is.

tOSUinPHX wrote: +1

I've talked to credible people with firsthand knowledge.  Smith knew about Tatgate/Pryor and had Tressel keep his mouth shut.  JT took the fall and was the patsy.  Why Smith is still employed at this University is beyond me....and alarming.

OgdenBuckeye wrote: WORST POST EVER! LEAVE!

SMITH IS A LOSER WITH NO COMPETENCE! HE THREW TRESS UNDER THE BUS TO COVER HIMSELF AND RUINED TRESS' LEGEND IN THE EYES OF SOME...NOT MINE! TRESS IS A GOOD GUY! SMITH IS AN IDIOT WITH REGARD TO NOT IMPOSING A BOWL BAN. COST US A CHANCE FOR A NATIONAL TITLE AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!

OH AND WHEN HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE AND WE WERE THE #! OVERALL SEED HE GAVE US THE TOUGHEST ROAD AND PUT KENTUCKY AT A #4 SEED. IDIOT!

HE IS A NOTRE DAME DUDE AND NEEDS TO LEAVE! FIRE GENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thenationalchampions wrote: It's too bad so many of our fans judge his body of work only by what they see on TV, most of it related to tatgate.  All he did was defend your program from petty bs, such as discounted tattoos. Did you want him to agree w/most of the glib sports media, and concede that OSU deserved close to the death penalty over pawning rings and free tats?  Did you want him to agree w/uneducated walmart Michigan fans, that OSU systematically cheats, and it's a huge organized conspiracy that starts at the top?

What Smith has done for the OSU athletic program in regards to the dept's finances, student athletes -specifically the academic resources he has created, has been innovative, and done nothing but benefit OSU.

OSU's Athletic Dept is totally self-supporting; and it's because of Gene Smith, that the AD has transferred around $30 mil to the University in his seven years.  How many other programs can say that?  I'm guessing not most. 

Bottom line, the man is highly successful, he is a brilliant business mind (2010 Sport Business Journal Athletic Director of the Year,) and is a graduate of Notre Dame, so maybe some of you should not be showing such disrespect.

cew31 wrote: Im not so sure we would have had a bowl ban for tatgate, I really do feel what pushed the NCAA over the top is when the players got caught for getting paid at a higher wage and not performing the hours, plus cash payments at fundraisers for buckeye appearances. If not for Smith, it could have been alot worse than a 1 year ban.

Thenationalchampions wrote: It's too bad so many of our fans judge his body of work only by what they see on TV, most of it related to tatgate.  All he did was defend your program from petty bs, such as discounted tattoos. Did you want him to agree w/most of the glib sports media, and concede that OSU deserved close to the death penalty over pawning rings and free tats?  Did you want him to agree w/uneducated walmart Michigan fans, that OSU systematically cheats, and it's a huge organized conspiracy that starts at the top?

What Smith has done for the OSU athletic program in regards to the dept's finances, student athletes -specifically the academic resources he has created, has been innovative, and done nothing but benefit OSU.

OSU's Athletic Dept is totally self-supporting; and it's because of Gene Smith, that the AD has transferred around $30 mil to the University in his seven years.  How many other programs can say that?  I'm guessing not most. 

Bottom line, the man is highly successful, he is a brilliant business mind (2010 Sport Business Journal Athletic Director of the Year,) and is a graduate of Notre Dame, so maybe some of you should not be showing such disrespect.

SHAZIER11 wrote: gene smith gets the shazier stamp of approval, he brought us urban meyer

osuwatchdog wrote: @thenationalchampions

Your the simpleton who's a Gene Smith apologist. Yes Tressel got the emails. He obviously didn't fwd them. It has been discussed before but fwd'ing them would be dumb for obvious reasons but let me help you. Fwd'ing the emails would leave a bigger paper trail and looking back on it Gene is lucky Tressel didn't forward them. Instead he verbally communicated it to his AD. How else was Gene notified and subsequently in on Tressel's meeting with Pryor and Posey in the spring of 2010? If you had contact with anyone on that team you'd know a lot more about this than what you've been told to believe by the University and the media. If it ever got out that Smith knew it would be doomsday for Ohio State. They saved their brand and Smiths job by finding their fall guy in Tressel. You need to wake up.

Thenationalchampions wrote: It doesn't take insider information to know any of what we discussed, hot shot.  You haven't added any insider info -nothing more than what the general public already knows about tatgate.  Yes, everyone agrees, Tressel did not forward the emails for obvious reasons (which was my point as well had you bothered to read my post,) and it is also highly likely that he verbalized the emails to Smith and Gee.  That said, it is also highly likely the three of them agreed to play the tat five anyway, and hope free tattoos would go away (as 100% of NCAA coaches would have done in hindsight.)

So do you have a point other than Gene Smith just wanted to make Jim Tressel a scapegoat?

If you are truly in the know, please provide something more than what I can already do myself by connecting the dots, (i.e. Tressel probably communicated to Smith/Gee about tatgate in person;) and provide something more than obvious observations (i.e. Tressel didn't forward the emails.)  

osuwatchdog wrote: @thenationalchampions

Your the simpleton who's a Gene Smith apologist. Yes Tressel got the emails. He obviously didn't fwd them. It has been discussed before but fwd'ing them would be dumb for obvious reasons but let me help you. Fwd'ing the emails would leave a bigger paper trail and looking back on it Gene is lucky Tressel didn't forward them. Instead he verbally communicated it to his AD. How else was Gene notified and subsequently in on Tressel's meeting with Pryor and Posey in the spring of 2010? If you had contact with anyone on that team you'd know a lot more about this than what you've been told to believe by the University and the media. If it ever got out that Smith knew it would be doomsday for Ohio State. They saved their brand and Smiths job by finding their fall guy in Tressel. You need to wake up.

bill257 wrote: osuwatchdog posted exactly what was going to happen with tatgate days before it became public knowledge. He's certainly an insider. His arrogance is well deserved.

Thenationalchampions wrote: It doesn't take insider information to know any of what we discussed, hot shot.  You haven't added any insider info -nothing more than what the general public already knows about tatgate.  Yes, everyone agrees, Tressel did not forward the emails for obvious reasons (which was my point as well had you bothered to read my post,) and it is also highly likely that he verbalized the emails to Smith and Gee.  That said, it is also highly likely the three of them agreed to play the tat five anyway, and hope free tattoos would go away (as 100% of NCAA coaches would have done in hindsight.)

So do you have a point other than Gene Smith just wanted to make Jim Tressel a scapegoat?

If you are truly in the know, please provide something more than what I can already do myself by connecting the dots, (i.e. Tressel probably communicated to Smith/Gee about tatgate in person;) and provide something more than obvious observations (i.e. Tressel didn't forward the emails.)  

osuwatchdog wrote: @thenationalchampions

Your the simpleton who's a Gene Smith apologist. Yes Tressel got the emails. He obviously didn't fwd them. It has been discussed before but fwd'ing them would be dumb for obvious reasons but let me help you. Fwd'ing the emails would leave a bigger paper trail and looking back on it Gene is lucky Tressel didn't forward them. Instead he verbally communicated it to his AD. How else was Gene notified and subsequently in on Tressel's meeting with Pryor and Posey in the spring of 2010? If you had contact with anyone on that team you'd know a lot more about this than what you've been told to believe by the University and the media. If it ever got out that Smith knew it would be doomsday for Ohio State. They saved their brand and Smiths job by finding their fall guy in Tressel. You need to wake up.