16isles wrote: catch by Gamble........ Inferred

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: So, in other words, you admit there was no pass interference? Why change the subject, was it a good call on Sharpe or not, when did he touch Gamble? What was the call again, PI, Holding or incomplete like the guy 8 feet away thought?

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

Now tell me, just where did you ever once see me say or infer that? There's no need to change the subject...WE WON THE GAME!!! Time to get over it already because there's nothing you're gonna do to change the outcome. Already in the books

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: catch by Gamble........ Inferred

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: So, in other words, you admit there was no pass interference? Why change the subject, was it a good call on Sharpe or not, when did he touch Gamble? What was the call again, PI, Holding or incomplete like the guy 8 feet away thought?

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

Now tell me, just where did you ever once see me say or infer that? There's no need to change the subject...WE WON THE GAME!!! Time to get over it already because there's nothing you're gonna do to change the outcome. Already in the books

Do you even know what play i'm even talking about? I'm talking about the 4th quarter play right before the last punt. If that's the same play you're talking about then go REWATCH the youtube clip where the Miami DB GRABS Gamble's jersey twice. That's as clear cut of holding as there could possibly be. Like I said, it's all irrelevant because we already won that game so i'm fine regardless of any here or there debates because scoreboard is all that needs to be said

16isles wrote: You are the one who said it was a catch. What evidence do you have that he caught it? Just a question, I would like to see it.

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: catch by Gamble........ Inferred

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: So, in other words, you admit there was no pass interference? Why change the subject, was it a good call on Sharpe or not, when did he touch Gamble? What was the call again, PI, Holding or incomplete like the guy 8 feet away thought?

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

Now tell me, just where did you ever once see me say or infer that? There's no need to change the subject...WE WON THE GAME!!! Time to get over it already because there's nothing you're gonna do to change the outcome. Already in the books

Do you even know what play i'm even talking about? I'm talking about the 4th quarter play right before the last punt. If that's the same play you're talking about then go REWATCH the youtube clip where the Miami DB GRABS Gamble's jersey twice. That's as clear cut of holding as there could possibly be. Like I said, it's all irrelevant because we already won that game so i'm fine regardless of any here or there debates because scoreboard is all that needs to be said

Bucksfn157 wrote: pretty sure they are claiming the NCAA fed the legal team questions to direct some of the proceedings in a direction to provide info directly to the NCAA investigation.  They were sent a bill by the prosecution, if i have heard correctly...

 

Sounds right

The NCAA has no subpoena power.  They found a way around that here.  So now the NCAA has sworn testimony under penalty of perjury... and that's a problem how exactly??

The NCAA HAS to use questionable methods in getting "evidence".  When they get evidence, they should use it. 

The attorney is screaming she did nothing wrong.  (of course she is... so did Reggie )


I mean come on!! The NCAA wants people to believe they will "do things right" now?  Where was this stance for USC??? 


Who believes this is a stance they are only going to take in the Miami case by the way?  [raises hand]

OhiozFinezt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXf0IF7cNA

Hopefully this is the last time I have to post this link where the game should've really ended but regardless of them not making those calls we prevailed in the end. We were, we are, and will forever be the 2002 season National Champions!!!

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: You are the one who said it was a catch. What evidence do you have that he caught it? Just a question, I would like to see it.

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: catch by Gamble........ Inferred

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: So, in other words, you admit there was no pass interference? Why change the subject, was it a good call on Sharpe or not, when did he touch Gamble? What was the call again, PI, Holding or incomplete like the guy 8 feet away thought?

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

Now tell me, just where did you ever once see me say or infer that? There's no need to change the subject...WE WON THE GAME!!! Time to get over it already because there's nothing you're gonna do to change the outcome. Already in the books

Do you even know what play i'm even talking about? I'm talking about the 4th quarter play right before the last punt. If that's the same play you're talking about then go REWATCH the youtube clip where the Miami DB GRABS Gamble's jersey twice. That's as clear cut of holding as there could possibly be. Like I said, it's all irrelevant because we already won that game so i'm fine regardless of any here or there debates because scoreboard is all that needs to be said

What evidence do you have that he didn't catch it? The refs called Golden Tate's Hail Mary play against the Packers a catch and everyone with eyes clearly knows it wasn't. Your' point is? or is this just a meaningless debate?

DBushwhacker wrote:

OhiozFinezt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXf0IF7cNA

Hopefully this is the last time I have to post this link where the game should've really ended but regardless of them not making those calls we prevailed in the end. We were, we are, and will forever be the 2002 season National Champions!!!

Nope, you actually should have punted before that play occurred

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS99CnmwzY4

5:34...line to gain is the 27

16isles wrote: I never said he caught it or he didn't. I was just wondering if you were just saying it or if you had any actual credible evidence that he caught it. Kind of silly to pin your opinion on something you can't see, isn't it?

Yes and the NFL came out and backed that Tate call, that should give you and idea of what the Referee's Association's opinion of Porter's call means.

 

16isles wrote: SEC football is king, why not take a look at what neutral fans think....http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/3593 0628/2002-OSU-vs-Miami-was-it-pass-interference.as px

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: I never said he caught it or he didn't. I was just wondering if you were just saying it or if you had any actual credible evidence that he caught it. Kind of silly to pin your opinion on something you can't see, isn't it?

Yes and the NFL came out and backed that Tate call, that should give you and idea of what the Referee's Association's opinion of Porter's call means.

 

Uh actually it's not because if you're watching any football game from the tv you have an opinion if someone caught a ball or not. And you actually think the NFL won't back their' referees' calls especially when they're in turmoil of not having the tenured officials ref the games? They're gonna back as many calls as they can to not make them look incompetent. 
Forget about the catch that you wanna debate so much about, were those holding calls? We're gonna see if your' opinion looks silly if you give the answer i'm expecting

DBushwhacker wrote:

OhiozFinezt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXf0IF7cNA

Hopefully this is the last time I have to post this link where the game should've really ended but regardless of them not making those calls we prevailed in the end. We were, we are, and will forever be the 2002 season National Champions!!!

Nope, you actually should have punted before that play occurred

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS99CnmwzY4

5:34...line to gain is the 27

SurfOhio wrote:

DBushwhacker wrote:

OhiozFinezt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXf0IF7cNA

Hopefully this is the last time I have to post this link where the game should've really ended but regardless of them not making those calls we prevailed in the end. We were, we are, and will forever be the 2002 season National Champions!!!

Nope, you actually should have punted before that play occurred

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS99CnmwzY4

5:34...line to gain is the 27

Really? looked like he easily got the first judging by the sticks, even if you dislike the spot. the sticks are a good five six inches from  that glowing yellow line, which as mentioned many times, is only an approximation.

Also the PI call was Ruled correct after an inquiry was made. it was called one of the 18 greatest calls in history by ref magazine.

lastly, if these NCAA allegations are true, Miami should not have been in the game,

16isles wrote: How can you have an opinion, when you can't see where the ball is? You can't see him catch it. I do think Gamble was held on the 3rd down call, I also think Krenzel didn't get the snap off in time. Those are MISSED calls, the 4th and 3 was FABRICATED as there was no contact, unless you would like to show me where there was contact while the ball was in the air.

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: I never said he caught it or he didn't. I was just wondering if you were just saying it or if you had any actual credible evidence that he caught it. Kind of silly to pin your opinion on something you can't see, isn't it?

Yes and the NFL came out and backed that Tate call, that should give you and idea of what the Referee's Association's opinion of Porter's call means.

 

Uh actually it's not because if you're watching any football game from the tv you have an opinion if someone caught a ball or not. And you actually think the NFL won't back their' referees' calls especially when they're in turmoil of not having the tenured officials ref the games? They're gonna back as many calls as they can to not make them look incompetent. 
Forget about the catch that you wanna debate so much about, were those holding calls? We're gonna see if your' opinion looks silly if you give the answer i'm expecting

OhiozFinezt wrote:

DBushwhacker wrote:

OhiozFinezt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXf0IF7cNA

Hopefully this is the last time I have to post this link where the game should've really ended but regardless of them not making those calls we prevailed in the end. We were, we are, and will forever be the 2002 season National Champions!!!

Nope, you actually should have punted before that play occurred

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS99CnmwzY4

5:34...line to gain is the 27

Or we can say Miami's punt return should've been called back with a penalty because of the block in the back right? This can be done all day but you know what the one definitive is? Ohio State won the game

16isles wrote: Perfect response. Good job.

 

DBushwhacker wrote:

SurfOhio wrote:

DBushwhacker wrote:

OhiozFinezt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXf0IF7cNA

Hopefully this is the last time I have to post this link where the game should've really ended but regardless of them not making those calls we prevailed in the end. We were, we are, and will forever be the 2002 season National Champions!!!

Nope, you actually should have punted before that play occurred

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS99CnmwzY4

5:34...line to gain is the 27

Really? looked like he easily got the first judging by the sticks, even if you dislike the spot. the sticks are a good five six inches from  that glowing yellow line, which as mentioned many times, is only an approximation.

Also the PI call was Ruled correct after an inquiry was made. it was called one of the 18 greatest calls in history by ref magazine.

lastly, if these NCAA allegations are true, Miami should not have been in the game,

He was short and a better camera angle would have shown it. I zoomed in and slowed it down a couple months ago when I was bored out of my mind and the subject was brought up on some message board. His "hiney" was down and he had the ball tucked.

To your point about the Allegations, who cares at this point? Every single 1 of the perennial football powers is doing illegal activity and has been since the inception of the NCAA, yourselves included. I won't mention your transgressions that could have kept you out of the 2002 National Championship game, out of respect to my environment and the fans of the Bucks in general. That doesn't matter in the least. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove, and due to the character, or lack thereof, of this felonious scumbag, the NCAA hasn't been able to prove jack squat and has been reaching for the last few months of this investigation. 

This ain't about Miami, or Ohio State, or USC, or Penn State anymore. It's about these weasel snobs that sit up in those NCAA offices, and get rich under the guise of morality, fair play, and academic excellence. NCAA is one of the most corrupt organizations of the face of this planet and this investigation is finally bringing an infinitesimal amount of that impropriety to light. Fans, alumni, and the universities need to stop bickering with each other and look to the crux of the issue, which is the NCAA. As of right now, it looks just like republicans and democrats battling tooth and nail over frivolous issues.

SurfOhio wrote: 
i don't think he was short myself but say you're correct. it's still 4th down and 1 inch, buckeyes could have gone for it

or being charitable, they could have punted, then there's no guarantee of a big return from that punt, maybe the guy even  bobbles the catch and the buckeyes recover. it gets into hypotheticals

but i still think it's a first.