TroyKidd wrote:

OSU84 wrote: Not sure about hostility toward the Pac-12 as a whole (it was conference that hammered Washington in the 1990's), but the punishment vs USC was abnormally harsh.

45 to 6

How do you justify that?  How do you look at that and say the NCAA ISN'T TOTALLY bais against the West?

Somebody do a statistical analysis on that.  What are the odds of that outcome at random?
Now, keep in mind, rules enforcement are anything BUT random.  Or at least they should be.


Also keep in mind that up until the USC case, the NCAA was supposed to be run on rules of precedent that should have prevented this kind of outcome

hoss2m wrote: so why wouldnt osu appeal the scholarship ban as obviously the ncaa has done shading things in their investigations over the past three years.

Stratbuck wrote: So Miami is going to get away with agents providing hookers and abortions because of a technicality? Wow.

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

stoptothink wrote:What would be the point? Tressel handed the NCAA a sanctions case on a silver platter and the NCAA wasn't even accused of doing anything "shady" with the investigation. Penn State, USC, and UCLA (Muhammad Shabazz investigation) might have a case though.  

hoss2m wrote: so why wouldnt osu appeal the scholarship ban as obviously the ncaa has done shading things in their investigations over the past three years.

I might not be following closely enough, but I don't recall it happening at other schools.  Shabazz is the first I've heard of it at UCLA.

I don't know how many kids get hung up in the clearing house at other schools

Seems we have 1 a year at USC.  At the moment we have Bigelow in limbo



What's good for USC football is good for UCLA basketball.

strandedbuck wrote:

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

Corso pointed this out in the post-game show and said the "controversial" call just made up for the blown calls at the end of the 4th quarter that would have cost OSU the game.

It was ignored by all 38 Miami fans.

ObjectiveCane wrote: The call was made and Miami fan lives with the verdict! Shyte happens! If the flag were not thrown we would have won the game.  I give Ohio State props for playing a hell of a game and had they not punted to Roscoe Parrish would have deserved to win without question.

Tressel Ball caught us off guard and that OSU defense had a great scheme with a Great Defensive Line. IMO, OSU D Line brutalized our O Line and that is where the game got away from Miami. 

With all that said Terry Porter's statue should be raised in C BUS!

TroyKidd wrote: "to improperly obtain information ... through a bankruptcy proceeding that did not involve the NCAA."


Like it's being a bankruptcy had anything to do with it.  It's all public record unless there's an out of court settlement.


Here comes the double standard AGAIN.  One set of rules for the Pac and another for most other places.


What the heck do you think they did on Reggie?

They used the records obtained from the court case between Reggie's agent, Orenstien, and Orenstien's partner to prove Reggie got cash.  That's what blew the lid off it.  AND they put it in their findings against USC.

Before that, and for a while after that, the "house money" was all speculation.  We only have testimony on the "house money" at this point... you know, the same amount of evidence we have that Cam's dad solicited his son.


NOW they're saying they can't do that?   


OMG!!!

goblue2000 wrote:

TroyKidd wrote: "to improperly obtain information ... through a bankruptcy proceeding that did not involve the NCAA."


Like it's being a bankruptcy had anything to do with it.  It's all public record unless there's an out of court settlement.


Here comes the double standard AGAIN.  One set of rules for the Pac and another for most other places.


What the heck do you think they did on Reggie?

They used the records obtained from the court case between Reggie's agent, Orenstien, and Orenstien's partner to prove Reggie got cash.  That's what blew the lid off it.  AND they put it in their findings against USC.

Before that, and for a while after that, the "house money" was all speculation.  We only have testimony on the "house money" at this point... you know, the same amount of evidence we have that Cam's dad solicited his son.


NOW they're saying they can't do that?   


OMG!!!

The problem this time, is that the NCAA was feeding questions about NCAA violations for Shapiro's lawyer to ask him while he was under oath for his deposition. Hell, she even sent the NCAA an invoice.

goblue2000 wrote:

TroyKidd wrote: "to improperly obtain information ... through a bankruptcy proceeding that did not involve the NCAA."


Like it's being a bankruptcy had anything to do with it.  It's all public record unless there's an out of court settlement.


Here comes the double standard AGAIN.  One set of rules for the Pac and another for most other places.


What the heck do you think they did on Reggie?

They used the records obtained from the court case between Reggie's agent, Orenstien, and Orenstien's partner to prove Reggie got cash.  That's what blew the lid off it.  AND they put it in their findings against USC.

Before that, and for a while after that, the "house money" was all speculation.  We only have testimony on the "house money" at this point... you know, the same amount of evidence we have that Cam's dad solicited his son.


NOW they're saying they can't do that?   


OMG!!!

The problem this time, is that the NCAA was feeding questions about NCAA violations for Shapiro's lawyer to ask him while he was under oath for his deposition. Hell, she even sent the NCAA an invoice.

strandedbuck wrote:

ObjectiveCane wrote: The call was made and Miami fan lives with the verdict! Shyte happens! If the flag were not thrown we would have won the game.  I give Ohio State props for playing a hell of a game and had they not punted to Roscoe Parrish would have deserved to win without question.

Tressel Ball caught us off guard and that OSU defense had a great scheme with a Great Defensive Line. IMO, OSU D Line brutalized our O Line and that is where the game got away from Miami. 

With all that said Terry Porter's statue should be raised in C BUS!

Or a statue of Glenn Sharpe mugging Chris Gamble on the biggest play in regulation... he held twice and still got burned on the out route which was incorrectly ruled out of bounds... karma at the end... Miami was lucky to even be in OT.

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

16isles wrote: So, in other words, you admit there was no pass interference? Why change the subject, was it a good call on Sharpe or not, when did he touch Gamble? What was the call again, PI, Holding or incomplete like the guy 8 feet away thought?

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

Stratbuck wrote:

16isles wrote: So, in other words, you admit there was no pass interference? Why change the subject, was it a good call on Sharpe or not, when did he touch Gamble? What was the call again, PI, Holding or incomplete like the guy 8 feet away thought?

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

It was a good call and it should never have come down to that had they ruled Gambles catch a catch.  You are foolish to just gloss over that.  The game would have been over in regulation.

OSU84 wrote:

TroyKidd wrote: "to improperly obtain information ... through a bankruptcy proceeding that did not involve the NCAA."


Like it's being a bankruptcy had anything to do with it.  It's all public record unless there's an out of court settlement.


Here comes the double standard AGAIN.  One set of rules for the Pac and another for most other places.


What the heck do you think they did on Reggie?

They used the records obtained from the court case between Reggie's agent, Orenstien, and Orenstien's partner to prove Reggie got cash.  That's what blew the lid off it.  AND they put it in their findings against USC.

Before that, and for a while after that, the "house money" was all speculation.  We only have testimony on the "house money" at this point... you know, the same amount of evidence we have that Cam's dad solicited his son.


NOW they're saying they can't do that?   


OMG!!!

Interesting point.

16isles wrote: So, in other words, you admit there was no pass interference? Why change the subject, was it a good call on Sharpe or not, when did he touch Gamble? What was the call again, PI, Holding or incomplete like the guy 8 feet away thought?

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

OhiozFinezt wrote:

16isles wrote: So, in other words, you admit there was no pass interference? Why change the subject, was it a good call on Sharpe or not, when did he touch Gamble? What was the call again, PI, Holding or incomplete like the guy 8 feet away thought?

OhiozFinezt wrote:

buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!

ObjectiveCane wrote:

SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert

I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

Now tell me, just where did you ever once see me say or infer that? There's no need to change the subject...WE WON THE GAME!!! Time to get over it already because there's nothing you're gonna do to change the outcome. Already in the books