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RE: NCAA Enforcement Issue Found in Miami Case.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 4:40 PM

RE: NCAA Enforcement Issue Found in Miami Case. 



ObjectiveCane wrote:
SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert
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Posted: 1/23/2013 4:40 PM

RE: NCAA Enforcement Issue Found in Miami Case. 



ObjectiveCane wrote:
SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert
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Posted: 1/23/2013 4:49 PM

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I'm not sure that this helps Miami--- unless some info is thrown out.  The investigation will just drag on longer.

BTW, the call was correct.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 5:06 PM

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so the NCAA will now be investigating itself ? LMFAO

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Posted: 1/23/2013 5:13 PM

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"to improperly obtain information ... through a bankruptcy proceeding that did not involve the NCAA."


Like it's being a bankruptcy had anything to do with it.  It's all public record unless there's an out of court settlement.


Here comes the double standard AGAIN.  One set of rules for the Pac and another for most other places.


What the heck do you think they did on Reggie? mad

They used the records obtained from the court case between Reggie's agent, Orenstien, and Orenstien's partner to prove Reggie got cash.  That's what blew the lid off it.  AND they put it in their findings against USC.

Before that, and for a while after that, the "house money" was all speculation.  We only have testimony on the "house money" at this point... you know, the same amount of evidence we have that Cam's dad solicited his son.


NOW they're saying they can't do that?  mad 


OMG!!!
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Posted: 1/23/2013 5:14 PM

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TroyKidd wrote: "to improperly obtain information ... through a bankruptcy proceeding that did not involve the NCAA."


Like it's being a bankruptcy had anything to do with it.  It's all public record unless there's an out of court settlement.


Here comes the double standard AGAIN.  One set of rules for the Pac and another for most other places.


What the heck do you think they did on Reggie? mad

They used the records obtained from the court case between Reggie's agent, Orenstien, and Orenstien's partner to prove Reggie got cash.  That's what blew the lid off it.  AND they put it in their findings against USC.

Before that, and for a while after that, the "house money" was all speculation.  We only have testimony on the "house money" at this point... you know, the same amount of evidence we have that Cam's dad solicited his son.


NOW they're saying they can't do that?  mad 


OMG!!!
Interesting point.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 5:24 PM

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so why wouldnt osu appeal the scholarship ban as obviously the ncaa has done shading things in their investigations over the past three years.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 5:38 PM

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THE 40 NCAA SCHOOLS listed below have had  50  Major Infractions cases In the sport of  FOOTBALL that have been investigated- dispo'd- and filed by the NCAA,  in their legislative database from 1953 thru 9/ 2011
Notre Dame
Texas
Nebraska
Michigan
Penn State*
Ohio State
Wisconsin
Iowa*
Purdue*
Northwestern*
Alabama
LSU
Georgia
Tennessee
Arkansas
Vanderbilt*
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Virginia Tech
Virginia
Wake Forest*
North Carolina**
Duke*
Maryland
Boston College*
West Virginia
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Rutgers
UConn*
Army
Navy
S.Florida*
Louisville*
Tulane*
Rice*
Baylor
Iowa State
Missouri
Brigham Young*
*  Schools that have never had a major infraction in football.
** Is currently under  investigation for the first time.
These 40 schools have been "Punished by the NCAA" with a GRAND TOTAL OF ..... 4 Years banned from the Postseason & 1 Year banned from Television.  50  Major Infractions cases - spanning nearly 60 years  = only 5 Banned Seasons total from TV and the Post-season.
THE NCAA ENFORCEMENT MAFIA  DISHED OUT MORE PUNISHMENT THAN THAT
TO  USC,  IN JUST  2 MAJOR INFRACTIONS CASES. 
The Main Point Im Trying To Demonstrate Is How Outrageous It Is That All Those Southern And Big Ten Country Teams For 60 Years And 50 Cases (That'S A Lot)
Only 5 Banned Seasons.
USC 2 Cases - 6 Banned Years.
Further Perspective: USC, UCLA, Cal, Arizona, Arizona State & Washington Combined - 22 Major Infraction Cases = 45 Banned Years!!!!
45! to 5. THAT IS CRIMINAL.
The NCAA has singled out about 3-4 whipping boys in the Sec, Acc, and Big Ten. They reverse it for the Pac and Big 12 where 8-9 of the teams are the NCAA whipping boys.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:30 PM

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Not sure about hostility toward the Pac-12 as a whole (it was conference that hammered Washington in the 1990's), but the punishment vs USC was abnormally harsh.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:53 PM

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ObjectiveCane wrote:
SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert
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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:53 PM

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Lol, a hail mary for the 38 'Cane football fans.

Because the NCAA paid some attorney fees in order to gain information, Miami should not be punished for having a booster sponsored slush fan, coordinated by an assistant coach, relating to hundreds of thousands of dollars and dozens, if not hundreds of players? That about right?


Give me a break - Miami is screwed becuase it is the dirtiest school since SMU. Their actions dwarf those of even the SEC!
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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:59 PM

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Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!
ObjectiveCane wrote:
SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert
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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:42 PM

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OhiozFinezt wrote: Ohio State was who they spent all their' time and effort on with aid from ESPN trying to dig any and everything possible. I'm still laughing that they tried to make tattoos the biggest crime possible but there's right in your face proof of all of these other programs breaking numerous violations and they always seem to get off. We're done with our bowl ban so it really doesn't matter(other than probation) but it's just funny how corrupt the NCAA is. Tattoos in exchange for own personal belongings...haha hilarious joke! Good thing they didn't trade old school books in for money or they might be serving a felony sentence
the 7734 upside down &backwards  it does'nt matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They made tOSU the alltime cheating team ever by espin !!!! We were covered more than USC with their 750000 house bush crap!! Tatoo's must be the end of all ends!
I have a feeling after USC OSU and the all but death laid down against PSU . That the NCAA will retract there claws and let the real criminals slide which they have done for 50 years  !!!
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Posted: 1/24/2013 2:02 AM

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No school has ever been less deserving of a break....
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Posted: 1/24/2013 3:18 AM

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OhiozFinezt wrote: Ohio State was who they spent all their' time and effort on with aid from ESPN trying to dig any and everything possible. I'm still laughing that they tried to make tattoos the biggest crime possible but there's right in your face proof of all of these other programs breaking numerous violations and they always seem to get off. We're done with our bowl ban so it really doesn't matter(other than probation) but it's just funny how corrupt the NCAA is. Tattoos in exchange for own personal belongings...haha hilarious joke! Good thing they didn't trade old school books in for money or they might be serving a felony sentence
the 7734 upside down &backwards  it does'nt matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They made tOSU the alltime cheating team ever by espin !!!! We were covered more than USC with their 750000 house bush crap!! Tatoo's must be the end of all ends!
I have a feeling after USC OSU and the all but death laid down against PSU . That the NCAA will retract there claws and let the real criminals slide which they have done for 50 years  !!!
Damn right it doesn't matter at this point(regarding our penalty) because our bowl ban is over so there's absolutely ZERO we're gonna do or even try to do going forward about that matter!!!!!!!!!! Every Buckeye fan knew the ncaa, espn, and every buckeye hating fan were all trying to make what happened at Ohio State to be the worst thing that ever happened out of all bad things that ever happened in the history of mankind. We ALL knew and know that but if you think it's gonna matter to the NCAA somehow and make them become a competent body then you're sadly mistaken man because that's just NEVER gonna happen. So you can hope the 7734 upside down & backwards it's gonna matter because that's just not gonna be the case at all because we've seen it far too much where they have evidence in front of them and they just sweep the sh*t away and do no more about it. Like I already said, our bowl ban is over and we gotta finish these few years of probation and we'll be done with that but there is NOTHING that we're gonna do about what punishment they gave us and we for damn sure won't be able to make the NCAA hire people who aren't a bunch of morons who will make reasonable decisions in the past, the present, or the future!

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Posted: 1/24/2013 3:28 AM

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buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!
ObjectiveCane wrote:
SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert
I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY
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Posted: 1/24/2013 6:42 AM

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buckeyemark wrote: Rewatch the last part of the 4th quarter and tell me the game should've ever went to overtime!
ObjectiveCane wrote:
SurfOhio wrote: OSU already handed Miami sanctions in 2002.

Yep and the Terry Porter = Mark Emmert
I notice all Canes fans like to ignore that single play that could've ended the game had the refs called just 1 out of the 4 calls correctly on that singular play. Holding, Holding again on the same player, catch by Gamble, late hit on Krenzel. It's on youtube but everyone always wants to proclaim Miami got screwed. We get a 1st down and the game ends there in the 4th quarter if they make the right calls. We won regardless...END OF STORY

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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:11 AM

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The NCAA is no different than some of our elected officials and some of our law enforcement.....they go to the highest bidder.  noidea
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:39 AM

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OSU84 wrote: Not sure about hostility toward the Pac-12 as a whole (it was conference that hammered Washington in the 1990's), but the punishment vs USC was abnormally harsh.

45 to 6

How do you justify that?  How do you look at that and say the NCAA ISN'T TOTALLY bais against the West?

Somebody do a statistical analysis on that.  What are the odds of that outcome at random?
Now, keep in mind, rules enforcement are anything BUT random.  Or at least they should be.


Also keep in mind that up until the USC case, the NCAA was supposed to be run on rules of precedent that should have prevented this kind of outcome

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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:50 PM

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TroyKidd wrote:
OSU84 wrote: Not sure about hostility toward the Pac-12 as a whole (it was conference that hammered Washington in the 1990's), but the punishment vs USC was abnormally harsh.

45 to 6

How do you justify that?  How do you look at that and say the NCAA ISN'T TOTALLY bais against the West?

Somebody do a statistical analysis on that.  What are the odds of that outcome at random?
Now, keep in mind, rules enforcement are anything BUT random.  Or at least they should be.


Also keep in mind that up until the USC case, the NCAA was supposed to be run on rules of precedent that should have prevented this kind of outcome
Teams in the west should be fine as long as no Boise State kids get a free $1.75 sandwich out of the vending machine haha but joke aside, there's definitely a bias depending on who the NCAA has in front of them
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