BuckinDayton wrote:

joegun wrote:

SuwaneeDawg20 wrote: Here is why. He is turning OSU into an SEC calibre team while the rest of the B1G is standing still or moving backwards. Ohio St is going to have better coaches, better recruits, and more championships than the entire B1G combined over the next 10 years. He may even sprinkle a National Championship or two in there.

Um......."Moving backwards".....BOB beat out "Urb" for every coach of the year award this year. Penn State's coachs are every bit as good or better than OSU's.

Not sure if you are trying to have a real debate here. But there's nothing to suggest that PSU's coaching staff, as a whole, is as good as OSU's. Let alone better.

You certainly have to give the edge to Meyer over O'Brien, right?

What is there to suggest Ohio State's staff is better? Member, everyone said this year the Big Ten sucked arse?

Lol, Urban Meyer just went 12-0 with likely the least talented team he is going to field in his tenure at Ohio State.

He has 2 BCS National Titles, 2-0 in other BCS games, and a 7-1 overall bowl record.

He also posted a .750 winning percentage in the SEC and is undefeated in the Big Ten.

His recruiting class is ranked about 3-4 right now, with the potential to move up by signing day.

Also, he has 2 more years with Braxton Miller.

DerpRedwine wrote:

BuckinDayton wrote:

joegun wrote:

SuwaneeDawg20 wrote: Here is why. He is turning OSU into an SEC calibre team while the rest of the B1G is standing still or moving backwards. Ohio St is going to have better coaches, better recruits, and more championships than the entire B1G combined over the next 10 years. He may even sprinkle a National Championship or two in there.

Um......."Moving backwards".....BOB beat out "Urb" for every coach of the year award this year. Penn State's coachs are every bit as good or better than OSU's.

Not sure if you are trying to have a real debate here. But there's nothing to suggest that PSU's coaching staff, as a whole, is as good as OSU's. Let alone better.

You certainly have to give the edge to Meyer over O'Brien, right?

What is there to suggest Ohio State's staff is better? Member, everyone said this year the Big Ten sucked arse?

What does this have to do with anything?

DerpRedwine wrote:

SurfOhio wrote:

DerpRedwine wrote: No one fears Bourbon. He'll get his share, then fake a heart attack and move on in four years. He's more of a travellin' man than Larry Brown.

you fear him, that's why you're on the board.

I have nothing to fear. I don't have a daughter who is an Ohio State cheerleader.

The rest of us have plenty to fear from someone who believes that a post from an internet message board counts as evidence.

DerpRedwine wrote:

SurfOhio wrote:

DerpRedwine wrote: No one fears Bourbon. He'll get his share, then fake a heart attack and move on in four years. He's more of a travellin' man than Larry Brown.

you fear him, that's why you're on the board.

I have nothing to fear. I don't have a daughter who is an Ohio State cheerleader.

again, the subtext is fear. If he was just another coach you wouldn't be on the message board.

Name me one aspect on coaching where b.o.b was better than urban this year.

One. What else could urban have done?

Maybe we should lose to an average Mac team to start next year and be happy when the whole team doesn't quit!

ohio4president wrote: Name me one aspect on coaching where b.o.b was better than urban this year.

One. What else could urban have done?

Maybe we should lose to an average Mac team to start next year and be happy when the whole team doesn't quit!

Game Day coaching, calling plays, and putting his players in the absolute best position possible to succeed and get the most out of his players. Bob is better than Urban in that regard imo. You guys can say Bob had a lot of talent to work with at Penn State, well he actually didn't, not on offense he didn't.

As far as everything else that goes into being a head Coach, I would say Urban is better. He is a nasty good recruiter and a pretty solid offensive mind as well.

I would take Urban over O'brien because of his ability to recruit and game management wise he isn't far behind O'brien, but imo their are some things that O'brien does do better then U Meyer.

I would take a lights out recruiter and solid offensive mind, over an excellent offensive mind and an average recruiter. That's why I would take U Meyer over O'brien, but it isn't far fetched at all to say O'brien does some things better than Meyer.

joegun wrote:

SuwaneeDawg20 wrote: Here is why. He is turning OSU into an SEC calibre team while the rest of the B1G is standing still or moving backwards. Ohio St is going to have better coaches, better recruits, and more championships than the entire B1G combined over the next 10 years. He may even sprinkle a National Championship or two in there.

Um......."Moving backwards".....BOB beat out "Urb" for every coach of the year award this year. Penn State's coachs are every bit as good or better than OSU's.

Yeah.... about that... OSU went 12-0 beat PSU @PSU in a game that was no where near as the score might lead someone to believe it was 35-16 with less than 2 minutes to go... and Penn State lost 4 games to OSU 0

On what planet given that sample would anyone try to rationalize that PSU has as good or better coaches?  Nothing you cite substantiates your opinion

mongoose wrote:

ohio4president wrote: Name me one aspect on coaching where b.o.b was better than urban this year.

One. What else could urban have done?

Maybe we should lose to an average Mac team to start next year and be happy when the whole team doesn't quit!

Game Day coaching, calling plays, and putting his players in the absolute best position possible to succeed and get the most out of his players. Bob is better than Urban in that regard imo. You guys can say Bob had a lot of talent to work with at Penn State, well he actually didn't, not on offense he didn't.

As far as everything else that goes into being a head Coach, I would say Urban is better. He is a nasty good recruiter and a pretty solid offensive mind as well.

I would take Urban over O'brien because of his ability to recruit and game management wise he isn't far behind O'brien, but imo their are some things that O'brien does do better then U Meyer.

I would take a lights out recruiter and solid offensive mind, over an excellent offensive mind and an average recruiter. That's why I would take U Meyer over O'brien, but it isn't far fetched at all to say O'brien does some things better than Meyer.

hilarious.  one season going 8-4 and losing to Ohio U and virginia and he is a better game manager than a two time national champ.  

well, if he is a marginally better game manager than urban, he is light years ahead of the hoke/borges coalition.

mongoose wrote:

ohio4president wrote: Name me one aspect on coaching where b.o.b was better than urban this year.

One. What else could urban have done?

Maybe we should lose to an average Mac team to start next year and be happy when the whole team doesn't quit!

Game Day coaching, calling plays, and putting his players in the absolute best position possible to succeed and get the most out of his players. Bob is better than Urban in that regard imo. You guys can say Bob had a lot of talent to work with at Penn State, well he actually didn't, not on offense he didn't.

As far as everything else that goes into being a head Coach, I would say Urban is better. He is a nasty good recruiter and a pretty solid offensive mind as well.

I would take Urban over O'brien because of his ability to recruit and game management wise he isn't far behind O'brien, but imo their are some things that O'brien does do better then U Meyer.

I would take a lights out recruiter and solid offensive mind, over an excellent offensive mind and an average recruiter. That's why I would take U Meyer over O'brien, but it isn't far fetched at all to say O'brien does some things better than Meyer.

You think O'Brien is better in all of the areas that I bolded? Based on what? 12 games as a college head coach?

Ohio State scored 24 PPG. in 2011. 
In Meyer's first year, they scored 37 PPG.
+13

PSU scored 19 PPG. in 2011.
In O'Brien's first year, they scored 29 PPG.
+10

Not sure why Meyer is good, while O'Brien is excellent as an offensive mind.

BuckinDayton wrote:

DerpRedwine wrote:

BuckinDayton wrote:

joegun wrote:

SuwaneeDawg20 wrote: Here is why. He is turning OSU into an SEC calibre team while the rest of the B1G is standing still or moving backwards. Ohio St is going to have better coaches, better recruits, and more championships than the entire B1G combined over the next 10 years. He may even sprinkle a National Championship or two in there.

Um......."Moving backwards".....BOB beat out "Urb" for every coach of the year award this year. Penn State's coachs are every bit as good or better than OSU's.

Not sure if you are trying to have a real debate here. But there's nothing to suggest that PSU's coaching staff, as a whole, is as good as OSU's. Let alone better.

You certainly have to give the edge to Meyer over O'Brien, right?

What is there to suggest Ohio State's staff is better? Member, everyone said this year the Big Ten sucked arse?

What does this have to do with anything?

It means we have to factor in the non-conference schedule to get a true indication of our teams' quality.  Oh. . . wait. . . .

Everyone who isnt wearing Scarlet and Grey is afraid of Urban. Theyll get used to it someday

joegun wrote:

SuwaneeDawg20 wrote: Here is why. He is turning OSU into an SEC calibre team while the rest of the B1G is standing still or moving backwards. Ohio St is going to have better coaches, better recruits, and more championships than the entire B1G combined over the next 10 years. He may even sprinkle a National Championship or two in there.

Um......."Moving backwards".....BOB beat out "Urb" for every coach of the year award this year. Penn State's coachs are every bit as good or better than OSU's.

Jim Tressel went 59-14 in the Big Ten and 94-22 Over all while at Ohio State.  Won a national Championship and appeared in two other BCS championship games, won the Big ten 7 years in a row and went 5-3 in BCS bowl games and the only time he ever won any post season award was in 2002.  

Clearly, you need to understand that the standard for giving Ohio State coaches national coaching awards is much higher than most schools and clearly much higher than team who go 8-4 .

BuckinDayton wrote:

mongoose wrote:

ohio4president wrote: Name me one aspect on coaching where b.o.b was better than urban this year.

One. What else could urban have done?

Maybe we should lose to an average Mac team to start next year and be happy when the whole team doesn't quit!

Game Day coaching, calling plays, and putting his players in the absolute best position possible to succeed and get the most out of his players. Bob is better than Urban in that regard imo. You guys can say Bob had a lot of talent to work with at Penn State, well he actually didn't, not on offense he didn't.

As far as everything else that goes into being a head Coach, I would say Urban is better. He is a nasty good recruiter and a pretty solid offensive mind as well.

I would take Urban over O'brien because of his ability to recruit and game management wise he isn't far behind O'brien, but imo their are some things that O'brien does do better then U Meyer.

I would take a lights out recruiter and solid offensive mind, over an excellent offensive mind and an average recruiter. That's why I would take U Meyer over O'brien, but it isn't far fetched at all to say O'brien does some things better than Meyer.

You think O'Brien is better in all of the areas that I bolded? Based on what? 12 games as a college head coach?

Ohio State scored 24 PPG. in 2011. 
In Meyer's first year, they scored 37 PPG.
+13

PSU scored 19 PPG. in 2011.
In O'Brien's first year, they scored 29 PPG.
+10

Not sure why Meyer is good, while O'Brien is excellent as an offensive mind.

After years of seeing PSU fans and their arrogance I'm still dumbfounded to see their rationale. O'Brien gets some pity from the national media and all of a sudden he can compete with coaches who have won national championships. O'Brien hasn't so much as won a divisional championship. Simply amazing arrogance from PSU year in and year out.

O'Brien took a team with 31 seniors to an 8-4 record with their best wins being at home against Northwestern and at home against a Wisconsin team locked into the championship game with nothing to play for. Color me not impressed.

Dude. Scoreboard?

joegun wrote:

SuwaneeDawg20 wrote: Here is why. He is turning OSU into an SEC calibre team while the rest of the B1G is standing still or moving backwards. Ohio St is going to have better coaches, better recruits, and more championships than the entire B1G combined over the next 10 years. He may even sprinkle a National Championship or two in there.

Um......."Moving backwards".....BOB beat out "Urb" for every coach of the year award this year. Penn State's coachs are every bit as good or better than OSU's.

mongoose wrote:

ohio4president wrote: Name me one aspect on coaching where b.o.b was better than urban this year.

One. What else could urban have done?

Maybe we should lose to an average Mac team to start next year and be happy when the whole team doesn't quit!

Game Day coaching, calling plays, and putting his players in the absolute best position possible to succeed and get the most out of his players. Bob is better than Urban in that regard imo. You guys can say Bob had a lot of talent to work with at Penn State, well he actually didn't, not on offense he didn't.

As far as everything else that goes into being a head Coach, I would say Urban is better. He is a nasty good recruiter and a pretty solid offensive mind as well.

I would take Urban over O'brien because of his ability to recruit and game management wise he isn't far behind O'brien, but imo their are some things that O'brien does do better then U Meyer.

I would take a lights out recruiter and solid offensive mind, over an excellent offensive mind and an average recruiter. That's why I would take U Meyer over O'brien, but it isn't far fetched at all to say O'brien does some things better than Meyer.

good god man.

he's coached one season and had a 3 year starter senior qb and went 8-4. How you guys are worshiping him is kind of funny but not surprising

mongoose wrote:

ohio4president wrote: Name me one aspect on coaching where b.o.b was better than urban this year.

One. What else could urban have done?

Maybe we should lose to an average Mac team to start next year and be happy when the whole team doesn't quit!

Game Day coaching, calling plays, and putting his players in the absolute best position possible to succeed and get the most out of his players. Bob is better than Urban in that regard imo. You guys can say Bob had a lot of talent to work with at Penn State, well he actually didn't, not on offense he didn't.

As far as everything else that goes into being a head Coach, I would say Urban is better. He is a nasty good recruiter and a pretty solid offensive mind as well.

I would take Urban over O'brien because of his ability to recruit and game management wise he isn't far behind O'brien, but imo their are some things that O'brien does do better then U Meyer.

I would take a lights out recruiter and solid offensive mind, over an excellent offensive mind and an average recruiter. That's why I would take U Meyer over O'brien, but it isn't far fetched at all to say O'brien does some things better than Meyer.

ROFLMAO..... Obrien had a SENIOR QB, veteran OL and averaged under 30 points per game.

Meyer took an offense that featured a true Sophomore QB.  and an OL that  was terrible in 2011 and had to move a TE to play RT.  This offense scored over 37 points per game.  They featured the #10 ranked rushing offense and the #21 scoring offense... the prior year they were ranked 81st in scoring...

anyone comparing the two offenses could not possibly come to the conclusion that O'brien is a better offensive coach unless they were wearing PSU pj's and sunglasses!

DerpRedwine wrote:

BuckinDayton wrote:

joegun wrote:

SuwaneeDawg20 wrote: Here is why. He is turning OSU into an SEC calibre team while the rest of the B1G is standing still or moving backwards. Ohio St is going to have better coaches, better recruits, and more championships than the entire B1G combined over the next 10 years. He may even sprinkle a National Championship or two in there.

Um......."Moving backwards".....BOB beat out "Urb" for every coach of the year award this year. Penn State's coachs are every bit as good or better than OSU's.

Not sure if you are trying to have a real debate here. But there's nothing to suggest that PSU's coaching staff, as a whole, is as good as OSU's. Let alone better.

You certainly have to give the edge to Meyer over O'Brien, right?

What is there to suggest Ohio State's staff is better? Member, everyone said this year the Big Ten sucked arse?

Scoreboard.

joegun now that was the funniest thing I read on the internet in ages.

Keep track of Ohio State and Urban Meyer vs BOB and those great PSU coaches.
Right now you are down 0-1

joegun wrote:

SuwaneeDawg20 wrote: Here is why. He is turning OSU into an SEC calibre team while the rest of the B1G is standing still or moving backwards. Ohio St is going to have better coaches, better recruits, and more championships than the entire B1G combined over the next 10 years. He may even sprinkle a National Championship or two in there.

Um......."Moving backwards".....BOB beat out "Urb" for every coach of the year award this year. Penn State's coachs are every bit as good or better than OSU's.

hahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

McGloin called the Lions' performance "one of those nights," unlike what Penn State had seen in its previous three Big Ten games when its "NASCAR" no-huddle offense - averaging 90.3 plays and 37.3 points per game - had defenses gasping for breath.

Through three quarters, the Buckeyes (9-0, 5-0) held a 28-10 lead. The Nittany Lions had just 46 plays and 236 yards of total offense and were 1 of 12 on third and fourth downs. The numbers were better in the fourth quarter when the offense scored its only two touchdowns of the game, but the Lions still saw their five-game win streak snapped.

"Everyone is a little heartbroken right now," middle linebacker Glenn Carson said. "But we have a bunch of warriors on our team. We have a lot of guys that have been through a lot. There is no doubt we will bounce back from this. Everyone is going to rebound in a positive way."

O'Brien, as is his custom, faulted himself for the loss, saying, "It starts with me. I didn't do a very good job tonight as the head football coach and I have to do a much better job for this football team."