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Best Guess as to New Divisions
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Posted: 1/19/2013 12:18 PM
Best Guess as to New Divisions
...if there are no new additions:
Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, MSU, NW
OSU, PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana
I think it's in OSU's best interest to be in the Eastern Division for obvious reasons, as long as Michigan stays on the schedule (sucks not being in the same division, but a good Eastern presence annually can be more important to TV exposure and recruiting annually). The rest of the conference will not allow OSU, Mich, and PSU in the same Division, anyway.
if UVA $ UNC/GT are next:
OSU, PSU, Maryland, Rutgers, UVA, UNC/GT, Indiana, Purdue
Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, MSU, Michigan, Illinois, NW
Unless FSU joins, competitive & geographical balance can keep OSU in the East. If we go to 16, though, I think a 10-game conference schedule is coming (a good thing, IMO). We need to be sending our best teams to the best bowl games, and with a conference stretching from Nebraska to Georgia or NC we can go 10 games, pack stadiums, keep revenue from 5 home games, and drastically improve strength of schedule. As we've seen, perception is everything. Winning bowl games is the only way to fix this issue. The revenue and exposure will be there, and we can keep a protected crossover (OSU-UM, Neb-PSU, Ill-Ind, NW-Pur, Wisc-Rutgers, MSU-UNC, UVA-Minn, Maryland-Iowa?).
Last edited 1/19/2013 12:23 PM by rayb678
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Posted: 1/19/2013 12:24 PM
RE: Best Guess as to New Divisions
I think you're put too many powers in the West.......I'm guessing Michigan and OSU will be in the same division......and then do the one guaranteed rivalry game between the divisions so Meatchicken and MSU play every year.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 12:29 PM
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Interesting. Regarding additions: You can scratch FSU from any possible scenario. Academics would rule them out. UVA I could certainly see though, and possibly GT or perhaps UNC. rayb678 wrote: ...if there are no new additions:
Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, MSU, NW
OSU, PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana
I think it's in OSU's best interest to be in the Eastern Division for obvious reasons, as long as Michigan stays on the schedule (sucks not being in the same division, but a good Eastern presence annually can be more important to TV exposure and recruiting annually). The rest of the conference will not allow OSU, Mich, and PSU in the same Division, anyway.
if UVA $ UNC/GT are next:
OSU, PSU, Maryland, Rutgers, UVA, UNC/GT, Indiana, Purdue
Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, MSU, Michigan, Illinois, NW
Unless FSU joins, competitive & geographical balance can keep OSU in the East. If we go to 16, though, I think a 10-game conference schedule is coming (a good thing, IMO). We need to be sending our best teams to the best bowl games, and with a conference stretching from Nebraska to Georgia or NC we can go 10 games, pack stadiums, keep revenue from 5 home games, and drastically improve strength of schedule. As we've seen, perception is everything. Winning bowl games is the only way to fix this issue. The revenue and exposure will be there, and we can keep a protected crossover (OSU-UM, Neb-PSU, Ill-Ind, NW-Pur, Wisc-Rutgers, MSU-UNC, UVA-Minn, Maryland-Iowa?). |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 12:35 PM
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FSU and Univ. of Cincinnati to Big 12. UNC & Duke to Big 10. VT and NCSU to SEC.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 12:36 PM
RE: Best Guess as to New Divisions
number36 wrote: I think you're put too many powers in the West.......I'm guessing Michigan and OSU will be in the same division......and then do the one guaranteed rivalry game between the divisions so Meatchicken and MSU play every year. I looked at that scenario, but if you pull Michigan out of the Western Division, Nebraska may very well be faced with the same situation they had in the B12, being the lone traditional power within their division... it hurts their TV ratings, and therefore recruiting, once again. If OSU is placed in the West, PSU is left alone in the East and we don't have quite the Eastern presence we'd like to have. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 12:44 PM
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I think it's going to be more of an east/west split.
Mich
PUR
OSU
MARY
RUT
PSU
IND
IOWA
WIS
ILL
NEB
MSU
NW
MINN
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Posted: 1/19/2013 1:15 PM
RE: Best Guess as to New Divisions
My guess would be:
1st division
tOSU
tTUN
MSU
MARY
Rutgers
PSU
Ind
2nd
Nebraska
Wisky
NW
Iowa
Illinois
Purdue
Minn
The only true rivalry broken up is the Indiana-Purdue rvialry and my guess is that the B1G can live with that.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 1:19 PM
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The majority opinion among sportswriters (not that they know anything) is that the Big Ten will go geographic and put Ohio St and Michigan in the same division. Hope so. __________________________________________________ No (more) conference expansion! |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 1:55 PM
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OSU84 wrote:The majority opinion among sportswriters (not that they know anything) is that the Big Ten will go geographic and put Ohio St and Michigan in the same division. Hope so. I too would like to see this. I also would like Nebraska being our protected rival, but we would probably be paired with Wisconsin. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 2:04 PM
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LakeNonaBuckeye wrote:
OSU84 wrote:The majority opinion among sportswriters (not that they know anything) is that the Big Ten will go geographic and put Ohio St and Michigan in the same division. Hope so. I too would like to see this. I also would like Nebraska being our protected rival, but we would probably be paired with Wisconsin. If they do it right, there really isnt a reason to have a protected rival. Whisky is going to go down in performance at some point and then we would be stuck playing them. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 2:16 PM
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OSU84 wrote:The majority opinion among sportswriters (not that they know anything) is that the Big Ten will go geographic and put Ohio St and Michigan in the same division. Hope so. From past conference votes, it seems like the B1G likes to work towards unanimous votes when deciding on any conference issue. I can't see Nebraska agreeing to a divisional format that puts OSU, UM, and PSU in an opposite division... especially given their history with a similar format in the B12. I think it's more likely that the rest of the conference agrees with Nebraska (they all need games with the Big 4 to boost their own exposure) instead of a format pitting 3/4 of the traditional powers in a single division. The conference also would want as many games pitting the Big 4 against each other as possible.
Last edited 1/19/2013 2:24 PM by rayb678
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Posted: 1/19/2013 2:24 PM
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rayb678 wrote:
OSU84 wrote:The majority opinion among sportswriters (not that they know anything) is that the Big Ten will go geographic and put Ohio St and Michigan in the same division. Hope so.
From past conference votes, it seems like the B1G likes to work towards unanimous votes when deciding on any conference issue. I can't see Nebraska agreeing to a divisional format that puts OSU, UM, and PSU in an opposite division... especially given their history with a similar format in the B12. I think it's more likely that the rest of the conference agrees with Nebraska (they all need games with the Big 4 to boost their own exposure) instead of a format pitting 3/4 of the traditional powers in a single division. Looks like we need to bring in another football power to pair up with Nebraska. In the next round of expansion we strongly need to consider Oklahoma, Tennesse, Texas, FSU, or of course ND. Some of the above are more east than west but any of them could be matched in a division with Nebraska. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 2:27 PM
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They need to put Ohio State and michigan in the same division and also make your final regular season game against a team in your division so you woudn't face someone in the Big Ten championship that you just faced
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Posted: 1/19/2013 2:37 PM
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buckeye9chuck wrote:
rayb678 wrote:
OSU84 wrote:The majority opinion among sportswriters (not that they know anything) is that the Big Ten will go geographic and put Ohio St and Michigan in the same division. Hope so.
From past conference votes, it seems like the B1G likes to work towards unanimous votes when deciding on any conference issue. I can't see Nebraska agreeing to a divisional format that puts OSU, UM, and PSU in an opposite division... especially given their history with a similar format in the B12. I think it's more likely that the rest of the conference agrees with Nebraska (they all need games with the Big 4 to boost their own exposure) instead of a format pitting 3/4 of the traditional powers in a single division. Looks like we need to bring in another football power to pair up with Nebraska. In the next round of expansion we strongly need to consider Oklahoma, Tennesse, Texas, FSU, or of course ND. Some of the above are more east than west but any of them could be matched in a division with Nebraska. I agree. If FSU is on track for AAU accreditation, I think they get an invite and soon. From all the chatter picking up, it looks like the time to act is approaching for each of the major conferences, unless they are content standing pat for the foreseeable future. FSU would most likely be placed in the East, though, pushing OSU west with Michigan and Nebraska. This would create the highest-profile regular season matchups, though, and be a scenario some fans of the old ACC could get behind.
Last edited 1/19/2013 2:42 PM by rayb678
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Posted: 1/19/2013 2:54 PM
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I posted this on the thread about renaming the divisions but I was a little late to that party.
"Honoring Legends and Building Leaders"
its a good slogan for a collegiate athletics conference IMO.
Leaders: tOSU, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State, Notre Dame, Virginia, North Carolina, Northwestern, Indiana, BC/UCONN/Duke
Legends: scUM, Nebraska, Mich State, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Kansas?
as crazy as a 20 team conference sounds it could work just fine. I put the FL and GA schools in the west to balance the new state exposure somewhat and an attempt to balance the traditional powers. I know Cooper would say no way no how on Kansas but i dont think Delany takes no very easily. If he wants them he wouldnt be afraid to try. I dont think he would fear schools leaving his GOR because where else are they going to go and get the same $$$.
Notre Dame would bitch and moan worse than PSU if they werent in the "eastern" division and even though the scUM ND game is a rivalry i know domers wouldnt GAF if they didnt play scUM annually so it works well. And sorry my Buckeye brethren, i just dont see a way to honestly attempt to balance traditional powers and keep scUM and tOSU in the same division. IF ND joins (and thats a big IF on purpose) they are probably going to hand pick the division set up. it will be Delany's one compromise so their admins can feel special inside.
I also am not sold on pods. I like the idea but I dont see the brass going through with something so fluid as pods. They will want regularity and stability. Not pods. I like the idea of a ten game conference schedule as I think OOC is an outdated idea with conferences being so large. Id prefer no OOC with such large conferences and expand the tournament if you want to see new fresh matchups.
Oh ya Im also not a fan of the locked in rivals besides tOSU and scUM. forcing these rivalries wont work some suggested Maryland and Rutgers and UVA and Minny and those sound like train wrecks to me. plus the locked rivals doesnt allow for as much schedule variation.
I just realized i forgot the Golden Gophers!! sorry Gophers no disrespect intended! im just a fool who cant remember everyone
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Last edited 1/19/2013 3:27 PM by hidownthai95
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Posted: 1/19/2013 3:08 PM
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rayb678 wrote: I agree. If FSU is on track for AAU accreditation, I think they get an invite and soon. From all the chatter picking up, it looks like the time to act is approaching for each of the major conferences, unless they are content standing pat for the foreseeable future. FSU would most likely be placed in the East, though, pushing OSU west with Michigan and Nebraska. This would create the highest-profile regular season matchups, though, and be a scenario some fans of the old ACC could get behind. Delaney has said the AAU thing is not a deal breaker. FSU hired a President to raise their academic standards, and finally, PSU and Nebraska are the only two members to have AAU status when invited to join the B1G. if UVA and Ga Tech come, FSU won't be far behind. I want to die peacefully in my sleep like Grandpa, not panic stricken and screaming like everyone else in the car. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 3:22 PM
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buckeye9chuck wrote: My guess would be:
1st division
tOSU
tTUN
MSU
MARY
Rutgers
PSU
Ind
2nd
Nebraska
Wisky
NW
Iowa
Illinois
Purdue
Minn
The only true rivalry broken up is the Indiana-Purdue rvialry and my guess is that the B1G can live with that. I don't think that will happen. Besides being the battle of Indiana between IU & Purdue The Old Oaken Bucket ranks up there with Paul Bunyans Axe -Little Brown Jug as most notable rivalry trophies in the B1G I would like to see Ttun & tOSU in the same division. I don't think it will happen. The problem with your divisions is most of the traditional powers are in the east. Some way this needs to change without causing chaos for the entire conference. The only way to do this is to have either Ttun or tOSU in the east the other in the west. Most likely tOSU will remain in the east since all the new expansion seems to be to the east and south east. It would be nice to get another power in the west so OSU and TTUN could be in the same division.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 3:36 PM
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buckeye9chuck wrote:
rayb678 wrote:
OSU84 wrote:The majority opinion among sportswriters (not that they know anything) is that the Big Ten will go geographic and put Ohio St and Michigan in the same division. Hope so.
From past conference votes, it seems like the B1G likes to work towards unanimous votes when deciding on any conference issue. I can't see Nebraska agreeing to a divisional format that puts OSU, UM, and PSU in an opposite division... especially given their history with a similar format in the B12. I think it's more likely that the rest of the conference agrees with Nebraska (they all need games with the Big 4 to boost their own exposure) instead of a format pitting 3/4 of the traditional powers in a single division. Looks like we need to bring in another football power to pair up with Nebraska. In the next round of expansion we strongly need to consider Oklahoma, Tennesse, Texas, FSU, or of course ND. Some of the above are more east than west but any of them could be matched in a division with Nebraska. The B1G could just pretend ND is a member. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 3:48 PM
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Does anybody really want Notre Dame in the Big 10 at this point?
Declan Sullivan, Lizzie Seeburg, Manti Te'o, Brian Kelly, Jack Swarbrick, BCS Bowl Record, etc... etc... I sure don't!
I would personally take Virginia - contiguous with Big 10 footprint, large endowment, state with large population and recruiting pool, etc... AND Georgia Tech - Atlanta, state with large population and recruiting pool.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 4:30 PM
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Divide by school colors
Red Division
Ohio State
Nebraska
Rutgers
Maryland
Indiana
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Rainbow Division
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Purdue
Iowa
Illinois
Northwestern
I want to die peacefully in my sleep like Grandpa, not panic stricken and screaming like everyone else in the car. |
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