ode2luke wrote: Difference being no one has accused Oregon of providing any benefits to players and then covering it up to maintain a competitive advantage on the field. Tressel did that and his team benefitted from having Pryor on the field for that season, B1G co-champ, BCS game etc. Seastrunk never played a down outside of practice. As for paying recruiting services all schools do it. From this it appears that tOSU spends between $400 and $500K a year on recruiting services.

Nobody accused Ohio State of providing benefits to players either.  Oregon is guilty of a cover up as well. . so that's a wash, but I would argue is that free tattoos don't give your team a competitive advantage, but using illegal means to attract players to your team that you wouldn't otherwise land DOES provide a competitive advantage. 

I don't Oregon's issue is with paying scouting services.  The issue is when those scouts are acting as recruiters for your school.  See the difference?

ode2luke wrote: Difference being no one has accused Oregon of providing any benefits to players and then covering it up to maintain a competitive advantage on the field. Tressel did that and his team benefitted from having Pryor on the field for that season, B1G co-champ, BCS game etc. Seastrunk never played a down outside of practice. As for paying recruiting services all schools do it. From this it appears that tOSU spends between $400 and $500K a year on recruiting services.

ode2luke wrote: Difference being no one has accused Oregon of providing any benefits to players and then covering it up to maintain a competitive advantage on the field. Tressel did that and his team benefitted from having Pryor on the field for that season, B1G co-champ, BCS game etc. Seastrunk never played a down outside of practice. As for paying recruiting services all schools do it. From this it appears that tOSU spends between $400 and $500K a year on recruiting services.

ode2luke wrote: Difference being no one has accused Oregon of providing any benefits to players and then covering it up to maintain a competitive advantage on the field. Tressel did that and his team benefitted from having Pryor on the field for that season, B1G co-champ, BCS game etc. Seastrunk never played a down outside of practice. As for paying recruiting services all schools do it. From this it appears that tOSU spends between $400 and $500K a year on recruiting services.

ode2luke wrote: Difference being no one has accused Oregon of providing any benefits to players and then covering it up to maintain a competitive advantage on the field. Tressel did that and his team benefitted from having Pryor on the field for that season, B1G co-champ, BCS game etc. Seastrunk never played a down outside of practice. As for paying recruiting services all schools do it. From this it appears that tOSU spends between $400 and $500K a year on recruiting services.

You don't think that the expense you are referencing might be recruiting expenses incurred by the staff when traveling, hosting recruits, and everything else, do ya?  I would have thought that the number would have been larger.

WoodyHazing wrote: Oregon has a lot of money behind it and I highly doubt they get anything more than what we got.

Chip Kelly lying and covering up recruits? Or Jim Tressel lying and covering up the tat5 so they can taint a BCS game? About the same. Chip Kelly leaves to the NFL & avoids serious punishments. JT retires with full benefits and goes to the NFL. Oregons Seastruck leaves Oregon and avoids punishment. Terrelle Pryor skips senior season after promising to return. OSU players got in trouble with other stuff after the scandal, where Oregon just has this isolated inicdent that we know of. I just can't see Oregon getting anything more than a year with some scollies lost, pry won't even have to vacate wins

RipAndRattle wrote: "the recruiting" services was a coverup to pay lyles in convincing these texas kids to go to Oregon, and Chip Kelly lied about it.

They are going to get hit hard because of the lying and cover up

BuckMike wrote: With Oregon's future punishment from the NCAA and as a result OSU could benefit in flipping a few of their recruits.  The harsher Oregon gets hit from the NCAA possibly makes it more likely OSU will benefit.  In the eyes of the NCAA...is Oregon's infractions...paying $25,000 for recruiting services more serious than OSU's with Tressel lying about tatgate ?

Just trying to get a feel in how hard Oregon will get hit since the more severe penalty they receive the more likely Oregon's recruits will want to get out of dodge.  It's my hunch...I could be wrong...if Oregon's penalties are very light I think Wilson or Robinsons stay at Oregon...


GO BUCKS !!!

Swimcat76 wrote: If Oregon should get into trouble, the only OSU that will benefit will be the OSU in Oregon. The Midwest might as well be on the moons of Jupiter to kids living on the west coast.  I don't see Meyer having any trouble recruiting top players a whole lot closer to Columbus.

BuckMike wrote: With Oregon's future punishment from the NCAA and as a result OSU could benefit in flipping a few of their recruits.  The harsher Oregon gets hit from the NCAA possibly makes it more likely OSU will benefit.  In the eyes of the NCAA...is Oregon's infractions...paying $25,000 for recruiting services more serious than OSU's with Tressel lying about tatgate ?

Just trying to get a feel in how hard Oregon will get hit since the more severe penalty they receive the more likely Oregon's recruits will want to get out of dodge.  It's my hunch...I could be wrong...if Oregon's penalties are very light I think Wilson or Robinsons stay at Oregon...


GO BUCKS !!!

ode2luke wrote: Difference being no one has accused Oregon of providing any benefits to players and then covering it up to maintain a competitive advantage on the field. Tressel did that and his team benefitted from having Pryor on the field for that season, B1G co-champ, BCS game etc. Seastrunk never played a down outside of practice. As for paying recruiting services all schools do it. From this it appears that tOSU spends between $400 and $500K a year on recruiting services.

PapaBucks wrote:

ode2luke wrote: Difference being no one has accused Oregon of providing any benefits to players and then covering it up to maintain a competitive advantage on the field. Tressel did that and his team benefitted from having Pryor on the field for that season, B1G co-champ, BCS game etc. Seastrunk never played a down outside of practice. As for paying recruiting services all schools do it. From this it appears that tOSU spends between $400 and $500K a year on recruiting services.

Pssst! That $400K - $500K number you're referencing is for recruiting EXPENSES, not recruiting services. Nice try though...