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Posted: 1/13/2013 2:17 PM
Re: Michigan Coaches
Yeah there is no way a coach that hasn't won a conference championship be a good coach. A coach like Kevin Sumlin could never beat Nick Saban because he hasn't won a conference championship. Good thing the Urb is no Saban. If only Hoke had taken cake jobs like Urb and not actually rebuilt a program. He should of just went to schools that were already good because making already good teams slightly better is so impressive. Then when the team is full of his own recruits and is just mediocre he could retire. --------------------------------------------- --- pcbuck wrote: 24to12 wrote: I think he understood the post and answered it quite well.
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NavyWolverine wrote: Cool story, letting us know that a former Michigan player is doing well at the highest level while former Buckeyes are stuck at college level. I don't think you understand his post, he is talking about college coaches. You don't want to get into a contest as to which state has produced the most successful college coaches. By the way, Harbaugh was born in Ohio. Still doesn't make up for the butthurt of not having Harbaugh while settling for a guy who has never won a conference championship in 10 seasons as a head coach. If this wasn't a college message board and if the poster didn't call himself NavyWolverine, maybe the butthurt wouldn't be so obvious. ---------------------------------------------
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Posted: 1/13/2013 2:20 PM
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BuckinDayton wrote: Putting the pissing match aside. Every time I watch a 49'ers game, I am thankful that Harbaugh is not at Michigan. Even if he went there, I think he would have gone to the NFL by now. I think he wanted to be in the NFL, just like his brother. |
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Posted: 1/13/2013 2:32 PM
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JohnCarrollBuckeye wrote: Jabba is 0-1 against Meyer and in 10 seasons has yet to be a conference champion.
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I believe Hoke is 1-1 against the buckeyes. You're right, it's not a winning record but will be after next season.
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Hey, all time Michigan is 58-0 against Hooi State. We don't count ANY of your wins, just like you don't count Hoke's first win against your paid amateurs.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 2:33 PM
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Future Michigan football fans will have the same reaction to Ohio State games that past fans did... because they will keep losing:  |
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Posted: 1/13/2013 2:35 PM
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A picture from the future (pick your year- they'll all be the same for Michigan while Urban is at OSU, carrying on the Tressel tradition):  "Oh, no - we lost AGAIN!!?!?!" |
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Posted: 1/13/2013 2:40 PM
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Kevin Sumlin is 46-19 as a HC, not barely over .500. And he did beat Saban. How'd Hoke do in that regard?
Meyer took only 'Cake' jobs?
BGSU was 7-13 the 2 years prior to Meyer getting there. 17-6 in his 2 years there.
Utah was 13-20 the 2 years prior to Meyer getting there. 22-2 in his 2 years there.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 3:21 PM
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I know he beat Saban. The statement was Hoke hasn't won a conference championship so he can not be a good coach. That obviously doesn't matter.
Utah was 8-4 the year before Urb with a bowl win over USC. Why are you going back two years? Urb inherited a very good team. Cake job.
Meyers success has been with other coaches players. That can't be argued. He has had one team full of his players and they were average. This also cant be argued. He also lost to a team that lost to Appy St.
Hoke on the other hand actually rebuilt Ball St. This is something Urb has never done. In fact Urb has only done the opposite.
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Kevin Sumlin is 46-19 as a HC, not barely over .500. And he did beat Saban. How'd Hoke do in that regard?
Meyer took only 'Cake' jobs?
BGSU was 7-13 the 2 years prior to Meyer getting there. 17-6 in his 2 years there.
Utah was 13-20 the 2 years prior to Meyer getting there. 22-2 in his 2 years there.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 3:25 PM
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Hoke is 0-1 against Meyer. Please argue that fact. --------------------------------------------- --- DerpRedwine wrote: JohnCarrollBuckeye wrote: Jabba is 0-1 against Meyer and in 10 seasons has yet to be a conference champion.
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--- NYCBlue wrote:
I believe Hoke is 1-1 against the buckeyes. You're right, it's not a winning record but will be after next season.
--------------------------------------------- You guys are idiots. Hey, all time Michigan is 58-0 against Hooi State. We don't count ANY of your wins, just like you don't count Hoke's first win against your paid amateurs. I delcare Michigan winner of ALL TIME! YAY! ---------------------------------------------
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Posted: 1/13/2013 3:26 PM
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Utah was 5-6 the year before Meyer got there. nailman83 wrote:
I know he beat Saban. The statement was Hoke hasn't won a conference championship so he can not be a good coach. That obviously doesn't matter.
Utah was 8-4 the year before Urb with a bowl win over USC. Why are you going back two years? Urb inherited a very good team. Cake job.
Meyers success has been with other coaches players. That can't be argued. He has had one team full of his players and they were average. This also cant be argued. He also lost to a team that lost to Appy St.
Hoke on the other hand actually rebuilt Ball St. This is something Urb has never done. In fact Urb has only done the opposite.
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--- BuckinDayton wrote:
Kevin Sumlin is 46-19 as a HC, not barely over .500. And he did beat Saban. How'd Hoke do in that regard?
Meyer took only 'Cake' jobs?
BGSU was 7-13 the 2 years prior to Meyer getting there. 17-6 in his 2 years there.
Utah was 13-20 the 2 years prior to Meyer getting there. 22-2 in his 2 years there.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 3:33 PM
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As for Hoke 'rebuilding' Ball State. Looks like he and Lynch lowered the standards. |
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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:33 PM
I mean what kind of idiots would really only offer kids
from instate. Isn't the great OSU a University of Ohio, thus they should really only offer kids in Ohio,"
I see you are a poster with an unparalleled ability to not see the forest for the trees. The vast majority of players on Ohio State's roster have been, throughout the years, from Ohio. Ohio has a great tradition of high school football. It's part of what makes OSU football more salient for Ohio State fans than Meatchicken will ever have.
Part of the same reasoning for schools like Texas, Florida, Florida State, USC, etc who pull primarily from their home states. Local kids playing in front of their fans. Meatchicken can not do that. They want to be so prideful of their state-supported college team yet can't use their own kids to provide the talent necessary.
Of course a great coach is going to look far and wide for the best talent but Meatchicken has never been able to and will never be able to be proud of home-grown talent . We have seven Heisman trophies and six of them are players from Ohio. Meatchicken has three and none of them are from Michigan. Look at their All-America list and it is pretty much the same thing.
When I look around Ohio Stadium and see those retired numbers, there is a sense of pride, as an Ohioan, that all of them except Eddie George were Ohio players. There is sense of pride that so many of our great coaches, including Jim Tressel, Woody, Paul Brown, and Urban are Buckeyes. Meatchicken? Not even close.
But I don't expect you to understand. I expect you to support Meatchicken or whatever your school is and make ignorant statements. It is your right on a public message board.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:45 PM
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wynnosu.......WELL SAID!!!
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Posted: 1/13/2013 6:27 PM
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Excellent post!!!!!!!!! wynnosu wrote: from instate. Isn't the great OSU a University of Ohio, thus they should really only offer kids in Ohio,"
I see you are a poster with an unparalleled ability to not see the forest for the trees. The vast majority of players on Ohio State's roster have been, throughout the years, from Ohio. Ohio has a great tradition of high school football. It's part of what makes OSU football more salient for Ohio State fans than Meatchicken will ever have.
Part of the same reasoning for schools like Texas, Florida, Florida State, USC, etc who pull primarily from their home states. Local kids playing in front of their fans. Meatchicken can not do that. They want to be so prideful of their state-supported college team yet can't use their own kids to provide the talent necessary.
Of course a great coach is going to look far and wide for the best talent but Meatchicken has never been able to and will never be able to be proud of home-grown talent . We have seven Heisman trophies and six of them are players from Ohio. Meatchicken has three and none of them are from Michigan. Look at their All-America list and it is pretty much the same thing.
When I look around Ohio Stadium and see those retired numbers, there is a sense of pride, as an Ohioan, that all of them except Eddie George were Ohio players. There is sense of pride that so many of our great coaches, including Jim Tressel, Woody, Paul Brown, and Urban are Buckeyes. Meatchicken? Not even close.
But I don't expect you to understand. I expect you to support Meatchicken or whatever your school is and make ignorant statements. It is your right on a public message board. God, Family, State of Ohio, Country, yes in that order!!!!
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Posted: 1/13/2013 6:37 PM
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wynnosu wrote: from instate. Isn't the great OSU a University of Ohio, thus they should really only offer kids in Ohio,"
I see you are a poster with an unparalleled ability to not see the forest for the trees. The vast majority of players on Ohio State's roster have been, throughout the years, from Ohio. Ohio has a great tradition of high school football. It's part of what makes OSU football more salient for Ohio State fans than Meatchicken will ever have.
Part of the same reasoning for schools like Texas, Florida, Florida State, USC, etc who pull primarily from their home states. Local kids playing in front of their fans. Meatchicken can not do that. They want to be so prideful of their state-supported college team yet can't use their own kids to provide the talent necessary.
Of course a great coach is going to look far and wide for the best talent but Meatchicken has never been able to and will never be able to be proud of home-grown talent . We have seven Heisman trophies and six of them are players from Ohio. Meatchicken has three and none of them are from Michigan. Look at their All-America list and it is pretty much the same thing.
When I look around Ohio Stadium and see those retired numbers, there is a sense of pride, as an Ohioan, that all of them except Eddie George were Ohio players. There is sense of pride that so many of our great coaches, including Jim Tressel, Woody, Paul Brown, and Urban are Buckeyes. Meatchicken? Not even close.
But I don't expect you to understand. I expect you to support Meatchicken or whatever your school is and make ignorant statements. It is your right on a public message board. So on one hand we have this huge sense of pride in the state of Ohio, then in the other hand we have alot of posters talking about expanding recruiting nationally under Urban... Which way is it, because it certainly can't be both. Btw in no way am I trying to bash OSU for being able to recruit Ohio born and raised kids and then turn around and succeed. However I find it very funny that it can be some sort of insult to other schools that aren't as lucky to have such a fertile recruiting ground in there own state. Ignorant statements? I think you should go back and revisit your first post. |
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Posted: 1/13/2013 6:56 PM
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We can recruit Ohio kids and anywhere else. Why not take advantage of the situation and recruit the whole country. We are one of the NATIONAL BRANDS!!! Alot of kids want to come here. WE ARE FOOTBALL!!!!! SO is Texas, Bama, USC/CAL/UCLA and ND. mongoose wrote:
wynnosu wrote: from instate. Isn't the great OSU a University of Ohio, thus they should really only offer kids in Ohio,"
I see you are a poster with an unparalleled ability to not see the forest for the trees. The vast majority of players on Ohio State's roster have been, throughout the years, from Ohio. Ohio has a great tradition of high school football. It's part of what makes OSU football more salient for Ohio State fans than Meatchicken will ever have.
Part of the same reasoning for schools like Texas, Florida, Florida State, USC, etc who pull primarily from their home states. Local kids playing in front of their fans. Meatchicken can not do that. They want to be so prideful of their state-supported college team yet can't use their own kids to provide the talent necessary.
Of course a great coach is going to look far and wide for the best talent but Meatchicken has never been able to and will never be able to be proud of home-grown talent . We have seven Heisman trophies and six of them are players from Ohio. Meatchicken has three and none of them are from Michigan. Look at their All-America list and it is pretty much the same thing.
When I look around Ohio Stadium and see those retired numbers, there is a sense of pride, as an Ohioan, that all of them except Eddie George were Ohio players. There is sense of pride that so many of our great coaches, including Jim Tressel, Woody, Paul Brown, and Urban are Buckeyes. Meatchicken? Not even close.
But I don't expect you to understand. I expect you to support Meatchicken or whatever your school is and make ignorant statements. It is your right on a public message board.
So on one hand we have this huge sense of pride in the state of Ohio, then in the other hand we have alot of posters talking about expanding recruiting nationally under Urban... Which way is it, because it certainly can't be both.
Btw in no way am I trying to bash OSU for being able to recruit Ohio born and raised kids and then turn around and succeed. However I find it very funny that it can be some sort of insult to other schools that aren't as lucky to have such a fertile recruiting ground in there own state.
Ignorant statements? I think you should go back and revisit your first post. God, Family, State of Ohio, Country, yes in that order!!!!
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Posted: 1/13/2013 7:06 PM
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LibertyBuck wrote: We can recruit Ohio kids and anywhere else. Why not take advantage of the situation and recruit the whole country. We are one of the NATIONAL BRANDS!!! Alot of kids want to come here. WE ARE FOOTBALL!!!!! SO is Texas, Bama, USC/CAL/UCLA and ND.
mongoose wrote:
wynnosu wrote: from instate. Isn't the great OSU a University of Ohio, thus they should really only offer kids in Ohio,"
I see you are a poster with an unparalleled ability to not see the forest for the trees. The vast majority of players on Ohio State's roster have been, throughout the years, from Ohio. Ohio has a great tradition of high school football. It's part of what makes OSU football more salient for Ohio State fans than Meatchicken will ever have.
Part of the same reasoning for schools like Texas, Florida, Florida State, USC, etc who pull primarily from their home states. Local kids playing in front of their fans. Meatchicken can not do that. They want to be so prideful of their state-supported college team yet can't use their own kids to provide the talent necessary.
Of course a great coach is going to look far and wide for the best talent but Meatchicken has never been able to and will never be able to be proud of home-grown talent . We have seven Heisman trophies and six of them are players from Ohio. Meatchicken has three and none of them are from Michigan. Look at their All-America list and it is pretty much the same thing.
When I look around Ohio Stadium and see those retired numbers, there is a sense of pride, as an Ohioan, that all of them except Eddie George were Ohio players. There is sense of pride that so many of our great coaches, including Jim Tressel, Woody, Paul Brown, and Urban are Buckeyes. Meatchicken? Not even close.
But I don't expect you to understand. I expect you to support Meatchicken or whatever your school is and make ignorant statements. It is your right on a public message board.
So on one hand we have this huge sense of pride in the state of Ohio, then in the other hand we have alot of posters talking about expanding recruiting nationally under Urban... Which way is it, because it certainly can't be both.
Btw in no way am I trying to bash OSU for being able to recruit Ohio born and raised kids and then turn around and succeed. However I find it very funny that it can be some sort of insult to other schools that aren't as lucky to have such a fertile recruiting ground in there own state.
Ignorant statements? I think you should go back and revisit your first post. What? UCLA? Really, you had a point until you included them. |
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Posted: 1/13/2013 7:55 PM
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Oh no, more "predictions". Just like your recruits.
What a bunch of talkers.
Nothing to back it up.
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I believe Hoke is 1-1 against the buckeyes. You're right, it's not a winning record but will be after next season.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 8:56 PM
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BuckinDayton wrote: Utah was 5-6 the year before Meyer got there.
nailman83 wrote:
I know he beat Saban. The statement was Hoke hasn't won a conference championship so he can not be a good coach. That obviously doesn't matter.
Utah was 8-4 the year before Urb with a bowl win over USC. Why are you going back two years? Urb inherited a very good team. Cake job.
Meyers success has been with other coaches players. That can't be argued. He has had one team full of his players and they were average. This also cant be argued. He also lost to a team that lost to Appy St.
Hoke on the other hand actually rebuilt Ball St. This is something Urb has never done. In fact Urb has only done the opposite.
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Kevin Sumlin is 46-19 as a HC, not barely over .500. And he did beat Saban. How'd Hoke do in that regard?
Meyer took only 'Cake' jobs?
BGSU was 7-13 the 2 years prior to Meyer getting there. 17-6 in his 2 years there.
Utah was 13-20 the 2 years prior to Meyer getting there. 22-2 in his 2 years there.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 9:05 PM
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mongoose wrote:
wynnosu wrote: from instate. Isn't the great OSU a University of Ohio, thus they should really only offer kids in Ohio,"
I see you are a poster with an unparalleled ability to not see the forest for the trees. The vast majority of players on Ohio State's roster have been, throughout the years, from Ohio. Ohio has a great tradition of high school football. It's part of what makes OSU football more salient for Ohio State fans than Meatchicken will ever have.
Part of the same reasoning for schools like Texas, Florida, Florida State, USC, etc who pull primarily from their home states. Local kids playing in front of their fans. Meatchicken can not do that. They want to be so prideful of their state-supported college team yet can't use their own kids to provide the talent necessary.
Of course a great coach is going to look far and wide for the best talent but Meatchicken has never been able to and will never be able to be proud of home-grown talent . We have seven Heisman trophies and six of them are players from Ohio. Meatchicken has three and none of them are from Michigan. Look at their All-America list and it is pretty much the same thing.
When I look around Ohio Stadium and see those retired numbers, there is a sense of pride, as an Ohioan, that all of them except Eddie George were Ohio players. There is sense of pride that so many of our great coaches, including Jim Tressel, Woody, Paul Brown, and Urban are Buckeyes. Meatchicken? Not even close.
But I don't expect you to understand. I expect you to support Meatchicken or whatever your school is and make ignorant statements. It is your right on a public message board.
So on one hand we have this huge sense of pride in the state of Ohio, then in the other hand we have alot of posters talking about expanding recruiting nationally under Urban... Which way is it, because it certainly can't be both.
Btw in no way am I trying to bash OSU for being able to recruit Ohio born and raised kids and then turn around and succeed. However I find it very funny that it can be some sort of insult to other schools that aren't as lucky to have such a fertile recruiting ground in there own state.
Ignorant statements? I think you should go back and revisit your first post. What don't you understand???? Ohio has a base, that we build on, a fine HS football program...........can you touch this???? How can you DENY, what your putrid history reveals???? Has anything been proclaimed, that is not true???? You and your ilk, are just wanna-be's.........tsun is NOTHING without OHIO born and bred blood.........to infuse your program..........you are and always have been, nothing more, than a blood sucking leech!!!!!
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Posted: 1/13/2013 11:28 PM
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Harbaugh was never going to Michigan as long as Denard Robinson was the QB there. He didn't want to stay in college, he wanted to go to the NFL. His brother was in the NFL, there's no way he was going to let his brother be the only one coaching in the NFL.
He was just waiting for the right job. The 49ers was the perfect storm for him. The team is loaded with talent. He knew he could make Alex Smith a winner. He drafted Kaepernick in case Smith couldn't be a reclamation project, and to groom as his replacement because he knew Smith's limitations would only take the team so far. The team has the same recipe he used to win at Stanford...tough defense, run the ball, and limit QB mistakes. He didn't ask Smith to win games, but to make smart decisions with the football.
When the Wolverines were looking to replace Carr, they wanted Les Miles. He said no, so they jumped at RichRod. That didn't work so well.
When they canned RichRod they wanted Miles or Haurbaugh...turned down by both. Harbaugh did end up leaving Stanford for the NFL. They settled for Hoke. He was probably the only coach in the country who even wanted the job.
There was a time when Michigan was an elite program. When if they wanted a coach, they were likely to get him. Now they can't get the ones they really want. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Michigan has been a second tier team in the Big Ten for a while. Remember when the Big Ten was known as the Big 2 and Little 9? For the past decade the Big Ten has basically been the Ohio State Buckeyes, and then everyone else.
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