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Posted: 1/5/2013 4:37 AM
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hellbound911 wrote: I don't see how anyone could say otherwise at this point. I don't see a CFB player at the AB spot playing better this year.
macdadbama wrote: Sorry, manziel is better. No joke. This board is extremely embarrassing sometimes. |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 4:39 AM
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Taribor wrote: They're all good. This "he's the best" crap is for third graders. Especially when he is obviously not to everyone but a handful of blind homers. |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 6:46 AM
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ecnirp wrote: It really upsets me that Braxton didnt get his chance to shine this bowl season.
I watched Bridgewater play well against a dead Florida team. I saw Mariotta play average vs. an above average Kansas State team.
Johnny Football was great tonight!! But did you see how he was barely touched out there? He could sit in the pocket all day! Those long runs would have been touchdowns if it were Braxton!
He has two high 1st round LT's and more experienced WR group than Braxton.
As a talent Braxton is superior than those guys. All three of the guys you mentioned are currently better passers than Braxton, that's it. As someone pointed out, Miller's ceiling is higher than any of these guys and once his passing mechanics and decision making are sorted out, the sky's the limit. 
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Posted: 1/5/2013 7:43 AM
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SCUMbuster wrote:
ecnirp wrote: It really upsets me that Braxton didnt get his chance to shine this bowl season.
I watched Bridgewater play well against a dead Florida team. I saw Mariotta play average vs. an above average Kansas State team.
Johnny Football was great tonight!! But did you see how he was barely touched out there? He could sit in the pocket all day! Those long runs would have been touchdowns if it were Braxton!
He has two high 1st round LT's and more experienced WR group than Braxton.
As a talent Braxton is superior than those guys. All three of the guys you mentioned are currently better passers than Braxton, that's it. As someone pointed out, Miller's ceiling is higher than any of these guys and once his passing mechanics and decision making are sorted out, the sky's the limit. Why is a sophomore's ceiling higher than a freshman's? And you are just assuming that Miller is going to "figure it out" as a passer. He still looks like a deer in headlights when a blitz is coming and is a slow decision maker. He's had almost two full seasons under center but it was painfully obvious when Michigan blitzed (in the last game of his second season) that Braxton didn't react at all. Just because Braxton can run fast and, with no pressure and all the time, can throw the ball a long distance that he is going to be an elite quarterback.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 7:55 AM
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Please! The ND qb had to be pulled from a game twice this year so that Rees could rescue their season. Braxton is no Aaron Rodgers at this point, but his passing is improving. I think he turns the corner next year and lights it up. BuckBundyRocks wrote:The other 2 are MUCH better at throwing the ball. IMO ND's QB is a better passer than Miller. |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 8:15 AM
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I thought Braxton was outstanding for us this year. That being said, I would trade him in a heartbeat for Manziel. It's simple, Manziel did more, against better competition than Braxton did this year.
I'm looking forward to Braxtons development in his second year in Meyers system, but the same case can be made for Manziel and Sumlin.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 8:30 AM
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Braxton will have his chance this year. I think with the improvements that he made this year and a better grasp on the O from last year---things can only get better! This offense should be fun and I hope it is more high power than what we saw in 12. Go Bucks!!
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:20 AM
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I wish it weren't true but it is and it's not even close. Johnny football makes decisions 10 times faster than the rest and they are usually good ones. Braxton would be 2nd string on his team
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It really upsets me that Braxton didnt get his chance to shine this bowl season.
I watched Bridgewater play well against a dead Florida team. I saw Mariotta play average vs. an above average Kansas State team.
Johnny Football was great tonight!! But did you see how he was barely touched out there? He could sit in the pocket all day! Those long runs would have been touchdowns if it were Braxton!
He has two high 1st round LT's and more experienced WR group than Braxton.
As a talent Braxton is superior than those guys.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:23 AM
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truebuckeye99 wrote:
hellbound911 wrote: I don't see how anyone could say otherwise at this point. I don't see a CFB player at the AB spot playing better this year.
macdadbama wrote: Sorry, manziel is better.
No joke. This board is extremely embarrassing sometimes. Yes, because 1 person made a pot-stirring thread. Your use of weird generalizations to knock this board is pretty transparent. |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:30 AM
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Id say all three are more polished, if not Manziel and Bridgewater certainly are. I'd put Bridgewater above Manziel. Too many Buckeye fans are delusional homers. Miller has a high ceiling, and might be the best runner, but he's not a better QB as of yet. 1926Buckeyes wrote: I think all the QBs you mentioned are currently more polished than Miller, and Manziel is a better overall player and Bridgewater is currently one of the better passers in the nation, but Miller has the highest ceiling among QBs in the nation.
No shame in saying that Miller might not be as good as some of these guys. Hard to remember so many underclassmen QBs that are so great already. |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:35 AM
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If you were not impressed with Manziel after that performance then nothing will impress you. I know Oklahoma is not a great team but they are a pretty good team and he destroyed them by himself. He may just win three or four Heismans.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:35 AM
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Bridgewater attended Miami Northwestern High School in Miami, Florida. As senior, he had 2,606 passing yards and 22 touchdowns.During Manziel's senior season, he compiled 228-of-347 (65.7%) passing for 3,609 yards with 45 TDs and 5 INTs.
As a senior, Mariota threw for 2,597 yards on 165 of 255 passing (64.7%), including 32 touchdowns against only five interceptions.
These guys were in passing offenses in High School. They were better passers than Miller before they stepped foot on a college campus.
If you ever watched a Wayne game, it's not what I'd call a dynamic passing offense. Miller was able to simply beat teams with his athleticism. It was amazing that they were in some of those games, especially vs. some of the better teams in Southwest Ohio.
I am a little surprised that his passing isn't further along, because the talent is there. His junior season should be interesting.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:36 AM
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How many in this thread said that Miller was the best of the 4? Thenationalchampions wrote: Id say all three are more polished, if not Manziel and Bridgewater certainly are. I'd put Bridgewater above Manziel.
Too many Buckeye fans are delusional homers. Miller has a high ceiling, and might be the best runner, but he's not a better QB as of yet.
1926Buckeyes wrote: I think all the QBs you mentioned are currently more polished than Miller, and Manziel is a better overall player and Bridgewater is currently one of the better passers in the nation, but Miller has the highest ceiling among QBs in the nation.
No shame in saying that Miller might not be as good as some of these guys. Hard to remember so many underclassmen QBs that are so great already. |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:50 AM
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None- --------------------------------------------- --- BuckinDayton wrote: How many in this thread said that Miller was the best of the 4? Thenationalchampions wrote: Id say all three are more polished, if not Manziel and Bridgewater certainly are. I'd put Bridgewater above Manziel.
Too many Buckeye fans are delusional homers. Miller has a high ceiling, and might be the best runner, but he's not a better QB as of yet.
1926Buckeyes wrote: I think all the QBs you mentioned are currently more polished than Miller, and Manziel is a better overall player and Bridgewater is currently one of the better passers in the nation, but Miller has the highest ceiling among QBs in the nation.
No shame in saying that Miller might not be as good as some of these guys. Hard to remember so many underclassmen QBs that are so great already. --------------------------------------------- |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:51 AM
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BuckBundyRocks wrote:The other 2 are MUCH better at throwing the ball. IMO ND's QB is a better passer than Miller. lol not a chance You win with people
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Posted: 1/5/2013 10:32 AM
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Love Braxton, but Johnnny Football has him beat by a mile.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 10:34 AM
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Braxton is not even close to Manz. Amazing the stuff you see on these boards. Urban Meyer would not even blink if he could trade one for the other right now. Urban would say son I am having chest pains again you have to go. Easy not even close.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 5:11 PM
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If Miller ever gets his passing skills to the level of those players, he's going to be downright scary.
Two more years of watching juniors-to-be such as him and ASU's Taylor Kelly, as well as three more years of watching those freshmen (plus Stanford's Kevin Hogan and Brett Hundley of UCLA) will make for several great years of watching high-profile QBs grow and improve before our eyes.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 5:47 PM
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Based off the games I saw, Bridgewater is by far the best passer. He was throwing guys open. Manziel had quite a few wide open windows that weren't there for Bridgewater. Manziel had a nice pass over the top that was nice but wasn't great mechanically...looked back-footed. |
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Posted: 1/5/2013 5:51 PM
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mantlebuck wrote: If you were not impressed with Manziel after that performance then nothing will impress you. I know Oklahoma is not a great team but they are a pretty good team and he destroyed them by himself. He may just win three or four Heismans. Manziel was simply outstanding. I always thought that Marquis Lee was the best player in the nation this year but Manziel dominated the field yesterday. I love what Braxton Miller did for our Buckeyes this year but, at this point, Miller is not remotely close to Manziel. Running...maybe a wash (being kind to Miller here). Passing...not remotely close. Manziel's accuracy and ability to throw accurately off balance and with multiple arm angles is something Miller will likely never be able to do. Miller can improve but he will never have the natural accuracy of Manziel. Yes, mechanics can help but Manziel looks like a major league shortstop who controls his body so well and still throws a strike. |
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