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Is Oklahoma the worst 'big-time program' out there?
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- BobLobla
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:07 PM
Is Oklahoma the worst 'big-time program' out there?
Sooners are consistently mediocre and haven't won a big game in forever. Sure Texas is garbage right now but atleast they have the potential to flip the switch and be viable. Sooners are the biggest chumps in the nation IMO. Why they receive a plush pre-season ranking every year is beyond me. Being an Oklahoma fan would be the most frustrating of any program. Are they the country's best example of a toothless paper tiger?
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:10 PM
RE: Is Oklahoma the worst 'big-time program' out there?
i think they just need a new coach. Bob has reached his peak.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:11 PM
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BobLobla wrote: Sooners are consistently mediocre and haven't won a big game in forever. Sure Texas is garbage right now but atleast they have the potential to flip the switch and be viable. Sooners are the biggest chumps in the nation IMO. Why they receive a plush pre-season ranking every year is beyond me. Being an Oklahoma fan would be the most frustrating of any program. Are they the country's best example of a toothless paper tiger? before this year it would have been N.D. I would put Penn State, Michigan, Florida State, on that list as well
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:16 PM
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LibertyBuck wrote: i think they just need a new coach. Bob has reached his peak. I think he reached it in January 2001.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:17 PM
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can't argue with that. SOBuck wrote:
LibertyBuck wrote: i think they just need a new coach. Bob has reached his peak. I think he reached it in January 2001.
God, Family, State of Ohio, Country, yes in that order!!!!
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:18 PM
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LibertyBuck wrote:
Bob has reached his peak. QFT. It's gotta be very frustrating for OU fans, because Stoops is a good coach, and he isn't going anywhere soon. But it seems for a while now like he's out of his depth in big games.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:18 PM
RE: Is Oklahoma the worst 'big-time program' out there?
Yes, but OU will never get called to the mat on it.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:22 PM
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virginia tech and them seem to always be up there yet never do anything recently
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:24 PM
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so glad buckeyes did not get Stoops' brother for DC
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:51 PM
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va1bucksfan1 wrote: LibertyBuck wrote:
Bob has reached his peak. QFT. It's gotta be very frustrating for OU fans, because Stoops is a good coach, and he isn't going anywhere soon. But it seems for a while now like he's out of his depth in big games. Yeah, it sucks to see a coach or a player reach his peak early on but remain good enough to not be fired for another 5-10 years. Landry Jones is the same way. Piles up passing yards, but never became anything other than an above average QB.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 12:30 AM
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DoubleE wrote: BobLobla wrote: Sooners are consistently mediocre and haven't won a big game in forever. Sure Texas is garbage right now but atleast they have the potential to flip the switch and be viable. Sooners are the biggest chumps in the nation IMO. Why they receive a plush pre-season ranking every year is beyond me. Being an Oklahoma fan would be the most frustrating of any program. Are they the country's best example of a toothless paper tiger? before this year it would have been N.D.
I would put Penn State, Michigan, Florida State, on that list as well Yep, every other "Big Time" program I could think of has at least been to the BCSNCG except Michigan and Penn State.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 12:38 AM
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brutusisanut wrote:
DoubleE wrote:
BobLobla wrote: Sooners are consistently mediocre and haven't won a big game in forever. Sure Texas is garbage right now but atleast they have the potential to flip the switch and be viable. Sooners are the biggest chumps in the nation IMO. Why they receive a plush pre-season ranking every year is beyond me. Being an Oklahoma fan would be the most frustrating of any program. Are they the country's best example of a toothless paper tiger? before this year it would have been N.D.
I would put Penn State, Michigan, Florida State, on that list as well Yep, every other "Big Time" program I could think of has at least been to the BCSNCG except Michigan and Penn State. Historically winningest teams that have never been to a BCSNCG: Michigan, Georgia, and Penn State.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 12:50 AM
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GatorNation4Lyfe wrote: Yes, but OU will never get called to the mat on it. Not sure if they are the worst big time program. But they sure have gotten a free pass from the sports media in the past decade. They sure lose a lot of big games and do not get belittled for it.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 12:53 AM
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As long as Mack Brown is at Texas, his job is safe.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 1:25 AM
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They're certainly high on the list, with little to show for it in major bowl games besides demolishing Connecticut a few years ago.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 1:30 AM
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Coaching search., first short list 1. Stoops 2. Gruden
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Posted: 1/5/2013 2:52 AM
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DoubleE wrote:
BobLobla wrote: Sooners are consistently mediocre and haven't won a big game in forever. Sure Texas is garbage right now but atleast they have the potential to flip the switch and be viable. Sooners are the biggest chumps in the nation IMO. Why they receive a plush pre-season ranking every year is beyond me. Being an Oklahoma fan would be the most frustrating of any program. Are they the country's best example of a toothless paper tiger? before this year it would have been N.D.
I would put Penn State, Michigan, Florida State, on that list as well Completely agree. Annually all 4 underachieve and none of them have returned to former elite status
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Posted: 1/5/2013 5:03 AM
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hidownthai95 wrote: so glad buckeyes did not get Stoops' brother for DC Don't be so quick with that. This year Mobilhoma's defense was as well coached as it has been in years. Their problem is talent. Mike Stoops said it after the game and some can accuse him of throwing his players under the bus but he said his defense didn't have the explosive playmakers to keep up with A&M's offense and he's right. The reason Bob got rid of Brent Venebales and brought Mike back was because Venebales was getting dominated on the recruiting front, especially for really explosive defenders... basically since Gene Chizik showed up in Austin. Bob got really concerned a couple of years ago when Tim DeRuyter became the DC at A&M and started beating Venebales for defenders. Mike is a better recruiter but he's also a better coach. He coached around a lot of the talent deficiencies he had this year, especially on the DL, but A&M exposed Mike's unit where they are weakest. Bob becomes his own worst enemy this time of year. He is the anti-Mack. Mack meddles during the season, bothers his coordinators and makes things overly complicated for everyone, but in the bowl break he steps back, strips everything down to simplest form and then lets his coordinators do their thing. That is why his bowl record is so good. Bob is the exact opposite. He gets out of the way during the season and lets his coaches coach and they create a nice little machine that hums along, but in the bowl break Bob tries to out-smart everyone by changing up everything they do. The Cotton Bowl was a good example. Instead of being the hyper-fast offense they had been so successful running all year trying to run 100 plays and score 50+, Bob had them grinding the clock. They went fast early and moved the ball well and then slowed down to grind the clock and the machine came to a grinding halt. When they tried to speed back up they were out of rhythm. He did the exact same thing in '08 when he had one of the greatest offenses of all time and went into the BCS title game against Florida and decided he was going to be a completely different offense. In a way, Bob's gameplan for A&M worked... Mobilhoma dominated the TOP. Of course, he neutered his own offense to accomplish that. If you're a dirt burglar fan, your hope is that Mike can recruit some difference makers on defense and then convince his brother to butt out. You also hope that he considers bringing Mark Mangino back to the trailer park to run the offense because Heupel doesn't have the stones to stand up to Bob. Mangino can sit on Bob and do his job just fine.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 6:45 AM
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"Big Game" Bob loses another one...surprising no one.  Choklahoma and VaTech are consistent BCS losers, gotta give them that. With Wisconsin making a late charge to join this elite group.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 7:42 AM
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I find it very diffacult to see how two programs like Okla. and U$C keep these kind of coaches? The Stupid brothers and prettie boy Lame Sniffin couldn't coach a good div III school.
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