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Posted: 12/30/2012 12:54 PM
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It's always a matter of numbers and depth. UT can get some very skilled players, but can lack depth.
"Perfection is the enemy of good enough."
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Posted: 12/30/2012 1:06 PM
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Can't assess Holgerson on one year.
Jimbo Fisher
Mack Brown (was great at one time, not anymore)
Tommy Tuberville
Steve Sarkisian
Frank Beamer (ditto Brown)
Brady Hoke
Bo Pelini
Kirk Ferentz (ditto Brown and Beamer)
Dan Mullen
Gary Pinkel
Randy Edsall
Mike London
Paul Johnson
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Posted: 12/30/2012 2:47 PM
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Mack Brown, he should hang it up this yr. To have losing record against K-State!! OUUUCH!!!
Kansas tht hot bed of high school football where about 3 three stars and 2 two stars come out of that state each yr.
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Posted: 12/30/2012 3:09 PM
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Over-paid and over-rated are two separate things, so I will do both.
Over-paid = Careful Kirk Ferentz, by a landslide.
Over-rated = Lane Kiffin. Why that guy has ever been a Head Coach in the NFL or the NCAA, is something that will have me scratching my head for decades.
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Posted: 12/30/2012 3:49 PM
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RJSimmons wrote: Over-paid and over-rated are two separate things, so I will do both.
Over-paid = Careful Kirk Ferentz, by a landslide.
Over-rated = Lane Kiffin. Why that guy has ever been a Head Coach in the NFL or the NCAA, is something that will have me scratching my head for decades. I think if this were a poll, Kiffin would probably be in the lead.
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Posted: 12/30/2012 5:57 PM
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BuckinYouDown wrote: 1. Bob Stoops
2.Lane Kiffin
3.Les Miles--IMO he has the one of the best staffs in football How exactly does attracting, hiring & retaining a great staff and letting them do their jobs detract from a head coach's resume? 
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Posted: 12/30/2012 6:31 PM
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RJSimmons wrote: Over-paid and over-rated are two separate things, so I will do both.
Over-paid = Careful Kirk Ferentz, by a landslide.
Over-rated = Lane Kiffin. Why that guy has ever been a Head Coach in the NFL or the NCAA, is something that will have me scratching my head for decades. Yup, I'd go with this analysis. I was shocked when Kiffin went to USC, or rather when USC asked him to come. He seemed to run his mouth a lot and couldn't back it up. I suppose USC may have thought "Hey, we're USC, Kiffin can recruit and we can win no matter what!". Ferentz does reasonably well with what he has I think. "Perfection is the enemy of good enough."
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Posted: 12/30/2012 6:36 PM
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Brady Hoke.
Kind of embarrassed by this board that it took 27 posts before somebody finally posts the correct answer.
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Posted: 12/30/2012 6:47 PM
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MajorHoople wrote: Dana Holgorsen, West Virginia.
And don't say Charlie Weis, because to be overrated you first have to be HIGHLY rated by somebody. I think everyone took this second sentence to heart vis a vis BH. "Perfection is the enemy of good enough."
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Posted: 12/30/2012 6:49 PM
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cincydawg4 wrote: ..I was shocked when Kiffin went to USC, or rather when USC asked him to come... I've mentioned this before, but it bears repeating: a friend of mine was traveling internationally when I sent out an e-mail to a group of CFB fans including him that USC had hired Kiffin, and he e-mailed back: "I'm traveling. Is this a joke?" He just couldn't believe it. |
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Posted: 12/30/2012 6:54 PM
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I admit to being happy that USC floundered this season relative to expectations. I like Stanford as a program anyway. Imagine you had a son good enough to get a scholarship to play football at Stanford. Win win.
Tennessee also did not come out well in that exchange (to this point).
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Posted: 12/30/2012 8:33 PM
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Mack Brown of Texas is my choice. He won because of his QB and for no other reason. With the talent in Texas there is no reason he is not challanging every year. He may be able to recruit, but he can not coach up that talent or mold that talent into a complete team. Another overrated coach, but a nice guy is Bill Snyder of KSU. He has won because of a QB too and he won before because he never played anyone. These two guys are probably some of the nicest people in college football, but they are not good coaches in my humble opinion.
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Posted: 12/30/2012 8:53 PM
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OSUtopia wrote: Can't assess Holgerson on one year.
Jimbo Fisher
Mack Brown (was great at one time, not anymore)
Tommy Tuberville
Steve Sarkisian
Frank Beamer (ditto Brown)
Brady Hoke
Bo Pelini
Kirk Ferentz (ditto Brown and Beamer)
Dan Mullen
Gary Pinkel
Randy Edsall
Mike London
Paul Johnson Not sure that a lot of these guys are rated to begin with. Mullen has a 58% WP at Mississippi State. You have to go back to the 50's(Darrel Royal) to find a coach with a better WP there. This is his first HC job. |
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Posted: 12/30/2012 8:56 PM
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OSUtopia wrote: Can't assess Holgerson on one year.
This was his second season. Try to keep up, dude. |
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Posted: 12/30/2012 8:59 PM
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Bo Pelini ( Rotten Black Shirts defense. Wow, are they bad on defense or what?)
Kirk Ferentz ( Overpaid and way past his prime) = Rumored to be candidate for the K.C. Chiefs
Lane Kiffen ( Great recruiter, but below average Head Coach)
Les Miles ( no one does less with more)
Marc Reicht ( see the SEC Championship Game for proof )
Last edited 12/31/2012 1:04 PM by ILoveCleveland
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Posted: 12/30/2012 9:53 PM
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Overrated-
1) lane kiffin
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2) ferentz
3) dabo swinney of clemson
4) sarkisian
5) tuberville
6) terry bowden
7) mike leach
2014 recruiting wish list
1. Kyle Allen
2. Jamarco Jones
3. Raekwon McMillan
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Posted: 12/30/2012 10:31 PM
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Got to be Kirk Ferentz. He has an overall record of 100-75. , and in 14 years as Iowa coach he has won only 2 shares of a Big 10 title(although he never even won the Big 10 outright), and his teams have slipped over the course of his career, yet he is one of the 5 highest paid CFB coaches and he is always mentioned whenever an NFL job is open. At least according to rumor, he is the Chief's first choice for a new coach right now. He is the very definition of a mediocre coach, yet some people think he's one of the best in college football.
Agree that Lane Kiffin and Bob Stoops are both overrated, although they're not quite as overrated as Ferentz. I think that Les Miles is considered to be so overrated that he's underrated. Mack Brown was overrated a few years ago, but I don't think he is at this point.
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Posted: 12/30/2012 10:35 PM
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OhiozFinezt wrote: Frank Beamer This was the first name that came to my mind....
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Posted: 12/30/2012 10:49 PM
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OhiozFinezt wrote: Frank Beamer |
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Posted: 12/30/2012 11:56 PM
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cincydawg4 wrote: Ferentz might be the most overpaid. I don't know what coaches are ranked.
I didn't even know Holgorsen was highly ranked. I would disagree here. Ferentz A-LIKES coaching in Iowa, and B-does a pretty good job w/ what he has to work with. The Iowa admins/fanbase don't have a psychotic "win an NC every 3rd year or you suck" mentality, and tacitly acknowlege the ups and downs inherent w/ the schools geography. As far as Holgorson goes-you need to have a quality defense if you are to be considered an excellent HC. WVU doesn't even have a mediocre defense, they have a dumpster fire. There's a certain kind of reassuring white rock....and some people do well with that.....
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