Interesting to think about how great this dynasty really is. Thier first recent NC game was played vs Texas without colt McCoy. Texas's offense was almost entirely dependent on one player and even without him they still made it a competitive game. Had McCoy stayed in the whole time there were many passes his backup missed that McCoy would have connected on and I don't think alabamans lackluster offense would have been able to hang. That would have been like cam newton going down and auburn playing vs Oregon without him and being expected to still win.

Fast forward to last year. Alabama not only didn't win thier conference but they didnt even play in the conference championship yet they still got a spot in the NC because the media spun the hearts of the voters putting them in over teams that DID win thier conferences or had 1 loss seasons such as Stanford and Oklahoma st. It was the media that gave them this crystal ball not the team itself or anyone else. People talk this year about how Ohio state should be punished for not playing in the B1G championship bcuz it's another game we could have lost, yet it's perfectly okay for bama to go unpenalized for not playing in a conference game either.

Now we come to this year. Obviously with notre dame being undefeated they deserve a slot in the NC. But now we face what if's for the second slot knowing that we can't play vs the Irish for all the marbles bcuz the NCAA suspended us for the post season over $1000 of tattoos. It was the NCAA that put Alabama in this game with a chance to make 3 titles out of 4 years now bcuz they backed thier way into 2 by the media/NCAA giving them a slot.

Oh how I long for a playoff, this is about as political as high school sports on who's son gets to start and whose doesn't.. This is **** you don't see in the nfl. The super bowl is won by teams PLAYING thier way into it and then finishing as the champions.

This so call Alabama "dynasty" needs a major * next to it. It is no better than wisconsins 2012 B1G championship. Or there self proclaimed titles of the past.

Why do I keep seeing this crap. At one point it was 21-6 Alabama. The final was 37-21 and had complete control of that game.

Maybe it Colt wasnt such a pussy you would have a point. Bama controlled the offensive and defensive line every down. They weren't losing that game anyway with or without Colt playing.

You are a blind hater if you think Bama didnt deserve the NC after Oklahoma State lost. And without a doubt they proved they were the best by dominating LSU.

Notre Dame is going to get raped, Hell I bet Johnny Football could beat them too. TAMU has become the hottest team in CFB right now.

I dont really care, I want Bama to win so when OSU meets them next year it will make it all the better. Be the team to end the Bama dynasty and end the SEC streak.

Being good for 3 or 4 years is not a "dynasty".

From 1995 to 2007, they averaged 7 wins a season (and that includes wins from 3 seasons where they had to vacate all their victories).

OSU going to 8 BCS games in 10 years and being ranked in the AP top 5 eight times in 10 years is far more impressive.

The incredible breaks and downright favorable treatment the SEC teams have gotten the past 6 seasons is incredible.....

2007 - Ginn goes down on kickoff
2008 - legitimate victory
2009 - UF gets to face the OU team that was soundly beaten by Texas instead of Texas or TTU
2010 - Bama beats a UT team that played without McCoy for 3 quarters
2011 - Auburn is allowed to ride the $250,000 man to victory
2012 - Bama gets a rematch vs a team that beat them in Tuscaloosa
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Interesting to think about how great this dynasty really is. Thier first recent NC game was played vs Texas without colt McCoy. Texas's offense was almost entirely dependent on one player and even without him they still made it a competitive game. Had McCoy stayed in the whole time there were many passes his backup missed that McCoy would have connected on and I don't think alabamans lackluster offense would have been able to hang. That would have been like cam newton going down and auburn playing vs Oregon without him and being expected to still win.

Fast forward to last year. Alabama not only didn't win thier conference but they didnt even play in the conference championship yet they still got a spot in the NC because the media spun the hearts of the voters putting them in over teams that DID win thier conferences or had 1 loss seasons such as Stanford and Oklahoma st. It was the media that gave them this crystal ball not the team itself or anyone else. People talk this year about how Ohio state should be punished for not playing in the B1G championship bcuz it's another game we could have lost, yet it's perfectly okay for bama to go unpenalized for not playing in a conference game either.

Now we come to this year. Obviously with notre dame being undefeated they deserve a slot in the NC. But now we face what if's for the second slot knowing that we can't play vs the Irish for all the marbles bcuz the NCAA suspended us for the post season over $1000 of tattoos. It was the NCAA that put Alabama in this game with a chance to make 3 titles out of 4 years now bcuz they backed thier way into 2 by the media/NCAA giving them a slot.

Oh how I long for a playoff, this is about as political as high school sports on who's son gets to start and whose doesn't.. This is **** you don't see in the nfl. The super bowl is won by teams PLAYING thier way into it and then finishing as the champions.

This so call Alabama "dynasty" needs a major * next to it. It is no better than wisconsins 2012 B1G championship. Or there self proclaimed titles of the past.

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golfbum88 wrote: Being good for 3 or 4 years is not a "dynasty".

From 1995 to 2007, they averaged 7 wins a season (and that includes wins from 3 seasons where they had to vacate all their victories).

OSU going to 8 BCS games in 10 years and being ranked in the AP top 5 eight times in 10 years is far more impressive.

That's like saying the Atlanta Braves were a dynasty.

You can't win it all once and be a dynasty imo. Multiple championships in a short period of time is a dynasty, ie the Yankees not the Braves.

Ohiost28 wrote: Interesting to think about how great this dynasty really is. Thier first recent NC game was played vs Texas without colt McCoy. Texas's offense was almost entirely dependent on one player and even without him they still made it a competitive game. Had McCoy stayed in the whole time there were many passes his backup missed that McCoy would have connected on and I don't think alabamans lackluster offense would have been able to hang. That would have been like cam newton going down and auburn playing vs Oregon without him and being expected to still win.

Fast forward to last year. Alabama not only didn't win thier conference but they didnt even play in the conference championship yet they still got a spot in the NC because the media spun the hearts of the voters putting them in over teams that DID win thier conferences or had 1 loss seasons such as Stanford and Oklahoma st. It was the media that gave them this crystal ball not the team itself or anyone else. People talk this year about how Ohio state should be punished for not playing in the B1G championship bcuz it's another game we could have lost, yet it's perfectly okay for bama to go unpenalized for not playing in a conference game either.

Now we come to this year. Obviously with notre dame being undefeated they deserve a slot in the NC. But now we face what if's for the second slot knowing that we can't play vs the Irish for all the marbles bcuz the NCAA suspended us for the post season over $1000 of tattoos. It was the NCAA that put Alabama in this game with a chance to make 3 titles out of 4 years now bcuz they backed thier way into 2 by the media/NCAA giving them a slot.

Oh how I long for a playoff, this is about as political as high school sports on who's son gets to start and whose doesn't.. This is **** you don't see in the nfl. The super bowl is won by teams PLAYING thier way into it and then finishing as the champions.

This so call Alabama "dynasty" needs a major * next to it. It is no better than wisconsins 2012 B1G championship. Or there self proclaimed titles of the past.

You let me know when tOSU get's close to what bama has done in a four year span, even a five year span..

They dominated Texas, so I'll give them that. Last year was handed to them with the rematch with LSU and not having to play in the SEC title game. This year was given to them too. They hardly fell in the polls after they lost, which no other team besides an SEC team enjoys from the media. Plus they really didn't beat anyone of note other than UGA. Michigan is nothing special. I don't see why Oregon didn't get the shot over them. Hopefully the 4 team playoff ends this nonsense. 

Also, why are Bama fans always on this board seeking validation from OSU fans?

Michigan didn't get the same treatment in 2006 that Bama got last year. Otherwise, the BigTen and most likely Ohio State would have won that title

OSU lost 1 game in 2010 yet didn't get the same chance Bama got last year. And we beat Arkansas.


Ohio State's run from 2002 thru 2010 would have damn close to Bama's current run if we had a little less bad luck. We faced a healthy Miami. We faced UF without our 2nd best weapon...Ginn. We didn't get to play the rematch card.

The good luck and downright favorably biased. Media treatment for Bama is truly remarkable.
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Ohiost28 wrote: Interesting to think about how great this dynasty really is. Thier first recent NC game was played vs Texas without colt McCoy. Texas's offense was almost entirely dependent on one player and even without him they still made it a competitive game. Had McCoy stayed in the whole time there were many passes his backup missed that McCoy would have connected on and I don't think alabamans lackluster offense would have been able to hang. That would have been like cam newton going down and auburn playing vs Oregon without him and being expected to still win.

Fast forward to last year. Alabama not only didn't win thier conference but they didnt even play in the conference championship yet they still got a spot in the NC because the media spun the hearts of the voters putting them in over teams that DID win thier conferences or had 1 loss seasons such as Stanford and Oklahoma st. It was the media that gave them this crystal ball not the team itself or anyone else. People talk this year about how Ohio state should be punished for not playing in the B1G championship bcuz it's another game we could have lost, yet it's perfectly okay for bama to go unpenalized for not playing in a conference game either.

Now we come to this year. Obviously with notre dame being undefeated they deserve a slot in the NC. But now we face what if's for the second slot knowing that we can't play vs the Irish for all the marbles bcuz the NCAA suspended us for the post season over $1000 of tattoos. It was the NCAA that put Alabama in this game with a chance to make 3 titles out of 4 years now bcuz they backed thier way into 2 by the media/NCAA giving them a slot.

Oh how I long for a playoff, this is about as political as high school sports on who's son gets to start and whose doesn't.. This is **** you don't see in the nfl. The super bowl is won by teams PLAYING thier way into it and then finishing as the champions.

This so call Alabama "dynasty" needs a major * next to it. It is no better than wisconsins 2012 B1G championship. Or there self proclaimed titles of the past.

You let me know when tOSU get's close to what bama has done in a four year span, even a five year span..

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Well, I don't know if you can have a dynasty or 3 MNC in 4 years given to you but I do understand where your coming from. Alabama, although very good at times, has been far from dominant during their run. They've probably been the best team in the SEC since 09 but they haven't really dominated their conference competition. They lost to LSU last year, they lost to A'm this year, and they should have lost to Georgia and LSU this year as well.  IMO this Alabama team isn't on the same level of those Nebraska teams in the mid 90s who crushed a top ten Colorado team 44-21 and top 5 Florida 62-24 in 95 or even those early 00's Miami team who crushed a top 15 FSU 49-27, a top 15 Syracuse 59-0, a top 13 Washington 65-7.  There really hasn't been that type of domination from Bama.

BTW, Bama beats Texas with or without McCoy.

By the OP's logic the Bengals "gave" San Francisco their dynasty in the 80s......two Super Bowls that the Bengals screwed up for the Niners benefit. No one gives a team multiple championships in a short time frame.

RipAndRattle wrote: ...Maybe it Colt wasnt such a pussy you would have a point...

This is a staggeringly ignorant & frankly disgusting comment. He took a hard hit that just knocked him out of the game. It was "one of those things" that could have happened to anyone.

It's one thing to say things worked out for Alabama during their run, or support their NCs, or say they'd have beaten Texas even if McCoy doesn't go down. It's quite another thing to call an undeniably great CFB QB who took a hard hit "a pussy."

That's contemptible.

34011 wrote: You let me know when tOSU get's close to what bama has done in a four year span, even a five year span..

2 NCs in 1954 & 1957.

2 NCs in 1957 & 1961.

2 NCs in 1968 & 1970.

Plus the 1968 team was voted "team of the decade." No Bama team in this current sequence is even remotely a contender for an honor like that. The 68 team was widely considered the best in CFB history up to that point. Again, none of these current Alabama teams are in that conversation.

That good enough for you?

RipAndRattle wrote:
Why do I keep seeing this crap. At one point it was 21-6 Alabama. The final was 37-21 and had complete control of that game.

Maybe it Colt wasnt such a pussy you would have a point. Bama controlled the offensive and defensive line every down. They weren't losing that game anyway with or without Colt playing.

You are a blind hater if you think Bama didnt deserve the NC after Oklahoma State lost. And without a doubt they proved they were the best by dominating LSU.

Notre Dame is going to get raped, Hell I bet Johnny Football could beat them too. TAMU has become the hottest team in CFB right now.

I dont really care, I want Bama to win so when OSU meets them next year it will make it all the better. Be the team to end the Bama dynasty and end the SEC streak.

I don't want to ever see the Streak come to an end but, if you're on the outside lookin'...this has to be the attitude. 

As for Bama's Legacy it's like MC Hammer..too legit!

P.S. the Gators are the Moltenest Hottest team in CFB right now...sorry about your luck aTm.

PSU1029 wrote: Well, I don't know if you can have a dynasty or 3 MNC in 4 years given to you but I do understand where your coming from. Alabama, although very good at times, has been far from dominant during their run...

I agree, they haven't been dominant, although the 2009 team was very impressive to me. That team knew how to win close games, and they came through big time in their big challenge against Florida in the SEC CG.

However, I don't think anyone can say Alabama's titles have been "given" to them. Although I didn't like the rematch last year (along with millions of other people), it was a pretty much logical outcome under the BCS/poll system. Oklahoma State lost after Alabama did, and that invariably means you're out of the picture.

The bigger problem is the CFB system for NCs. All Alabama has done has been make the most of the opportunities that stupid system provided for them. It's not Bama's fault that other teams lost after they did. The system is bad, but that's not Bama's fault either.

Under the system as it is, Bama's entrance in the NC game has been understandable every year. And once there, they've done their best, even though they've certainly gotten their breaks (McCoy going down, getting a rematch for an opponent). OTOH, that's the nature of the CFB beast, and certainly under the BCS/poll system.

LOL,  too much  time with  MOMMY ?

FYI - your future,  when the playoffs start, SEC will be all in it and make you WISH you were as good.  Until then BAMA,  and CNS is actually looking forward to the playoffs and a chance to whop some more of that you know what.

DONE DEAL with ESPN approval.

Ohiost28 wrote: Interesting to think about how great this dynasty really is. Thier first recent NC game was played vs Texas without colt McCoy. Texas's offense was almost entirely dependent on one player and even without him they still made it a competitive game. Had McCoy stayed in the whole time there were many passes his backup missed that McCoy would have connected on and I don't think alabamans lackluster offense would have been able to hang. That would have been like cam newton going down and auburn playing vs Oregon without him and being expected to still win.

Fast forward to last year. Alabama not only didn't win thier conference but they didnt even play in the conference championship yet they still got a spot in the NC because the media spun the hearts of the voters putting them in over teams that DID win thier conferences or had 1 loss seasons such as Stanford and Oklahoma st. It was the media that gave them this crystal ball not the team itself or anyone else. People talk this year about how Ohio state should be punished for not playing in the B1G championship bcuz it's another game we could have lost, yet it's perfectly okay for bama to go unpenalized for not playing in a conference game either.

Now we come to this year. Obviously with notre dame being undefeated they deserve a slot in the NC. But now we face what if's for the second slot knowing that we can't play vs the Irish for all the marbles bcuz the NCAA suspended us for the post season over $1000 of tattoos. It was the NCAA that put Alabama in this game with a chance to make 3 titles out of 4 years now bcuz they backed thier way into 2 by the media/NCAA giving them a slot.

Oh how I long for a playoff, this is about as political as high school sports on who's son gets to start and whose doesn't.. This is **** you don't see in the nfl. The super bowl is won by teams PLAYING thier way into it and then finishing as the champions.

This so call Alabama "dynasty" needs a major * next to it. It is no better than wisconsins 2012 B1G championship. Or there self proclaimed titles of the past.

Well, first the media did not vote bama into the SEC title game, coaches did, present and ex coaches put bama into the bcs title game not the media, and ex coaches and present day coaches kept michigan out the 06 title game and that is the truth, the media had nothing to do with it...
In 10 auburn and the ducks had not lost a game and I think you guys lost to wisky, what's your problem...
 you sound like a texas fan now, Ginn was hurt jumping up down after he scored a touchdown, he hurt himself, it is a football game players get hurt...
  I think bama got lucky last year alot more then this year, I mean it is hard to go thru the SEC undeafted, meyer won two titles and both UF teams had a loss, so was Meyer lucky, he lost to ole miss and auburn. I don't think that is any worse than bama losing to lsu and A/m but maybe you do.... Saban has won three titles and only one of them has been unbeaten...
  No doubt had tressel beaten UF and LSU, tOSU would be on a huge run, but since they got abused in both those games it kinds of taints the real story of that run no doubt, which if you look at is honestly it is still one hell of a run, I would say...Not going to win them all and really that team that faced LSU should not have been their, IMO. They had the record to their no doubt but they were not the second best team in the country that year or god I hope they weren't...

Boy wrote:
Michigan didn't get the same treatment in 2006 that Bama got last year. Otherwise, the BigTen and most likely Ohio State would have won that title

OSU lost 1 game in 2010 yet didn't get the same chance Bama got last year. And we beat Arkansas.


Ohio State's run from 2002 thru 2010 would have damn close to Bama's current run if we had a little less bad luck. We faced a healthy Miami. We faced UF without our 2nd best weapon...Ginn. We didn't get to play the rematch card.

The good luck and downright favorably biased. Media treatment for Bama is truly remarkable.
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OSUVB wrote:

34011 wrote: You let me know when tOSU get's close to what bama has done in a four year span, even a five year span..

2 NCs in 1954 & 1957.

2 NCs in 1957 & 1961.

2 NCs in 1968 & 1970.

Plus the 1968 team was voted "team of the decade." No Bama team in this current sequence is even remotely a contender for an honor like that. The 68 team was widely considered the best in CFB history up to that point. Again, none of these current Alabama teams are in that conversation.

That good enough for you?

So, the MEDIA voted the 68' team the team of the century, why the hell should I believe anything the media says, bama had back to back title teams in the 60's and went undeafted the next year but was not awarded the title due to intergration or segeration or whatever, I don't think tOSU has every won back to back titles like bama and when bama beats ND it will be our third or fourth time to win back to back titles
   I would put the 09 & 11 teams up against any title team's to ever play and I think we would do just fine and win alot more than we would lose, easily, yes, even the cornhuskers of the 90's, we would play them just fine.. 
  I think you guys forget just how damn good that LSU team was last year, if LSU had beaten bama they would have went down as the greatest team in college football history, IMO...
  tOSU has some great runs but I doubt they are as epic as bama's if we beat ND... Just think if bama wins the title they will have beaten a undeafted texas,LSU,and ND to win all three titles, I would call that quite a feat in a four year span.. JMO

34011 wrote:

OSUVB wrote:

34011 wrote: You let me know when tOSU get's close to what bama has done in a four year span, even a five year span..

2 NCs in 1954 & 1957.

2 NCs in 1957 & 1961.

2 NCs in 1968 & 1970.

Plus the 1968 team was voted "team of the decade." No Bama team in this current sequence is even remotely a contender for an honor like that. The 68 team was widely considered the best in CFB history up to that point. Again, none of these current Alabama teams are in that conversation.

That good enough for you?

So, the MEDIA voted the 68' team the team of the century, why the hell should I believe anything the media says, bama had back to back title teams in the 60's and went undeafted the next year but was not awarded the title due to intergration, I don't think tOSU has every won back to back titles like bama and when bamas beats ND it will be our third or fourth time to win back to back titles
   I would put the 09 & 11 teams up against any title team's to ever play and I think we would do just fine and win alot more than we would lose, easily, yes, even the cornhuskers of the 90's, we would play them just fine.. 
  I think you guys forget just how damn good that LSU team was last year, if LSU had beaten bama they would have went down as the greatest team in college football history, IMO...
  tOSU has some great runs but I doubt they are as epic as bama's if we beat ND... Just think if bama wins the title they will have beaten a undeafted texas,LSU,and ND to win all three titles, I would call that quite a feet in a four year span.. JMO

09 and 11 teams the greatest of all time?

dude you're kind of crazy.

ohio4president wrote:

34011 wrote:

OSUVB wrote:

34011 wrote: You let me know when tOSU get's close to what bama has done in a four year span, even a five year span..

2 NCs in 1954 & 1957.

2 NCs in 1957 & 1961.

2 NCs in 1968 & 1970.

Plus the 1968 team was voted "team of the decade." No Bama team in this current sequence is even remotely a contender for an honor like that. The 68 team was widely considered the best in CFB history up to that point. Again, none of these current Alabama teams are in that conversation.

That good enough for you?

So, the MEDIA voted the 68' team the team of the century, why the hell should I believe anything the media says, bama had back to back title teams in the 60's and went undeafted the next year but was not awarded the title due to intergration, I don't think tOSU has every won back to back titles like bama and when bamas beats ND it will be our third or fourth time to win back to back titles
   I would put the 09 & 11 teams up against any title team's to ever play and I think we would do just fine and win alot more than we would lose, easily, yes, even the cornhuskers of the 90's, we would play them just fine.. 
  I think you guys forget just how damn good that LSU team was last year, if LSU had beaten bama they would have went down as the greatest team in college football history, IMO...
  tOSU has some great runs but I doubt they are as epic as bama's if we beat ND... Just think if bama wins the title they will have beaten a undeafted texas,LSU,and ND to win all three titles, I would call that quite a feet in a four year span.. JMO

09 and 11 teams the greatest of all time?

dude you're kind of crazy.

I said, those teams could play with any title teams, I believe they could, never said they were the best of all time, I think the 09 & 11 bama title teams could hang with anyother title team, why couldn't they, IMO... Never like the best or greatest of all time comments when teams play each other. I think they are truly hard to rate. I think Title games are more about match ups then just who won the game...