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Posted: 12/31/2012 10:34 PM
RE: Andy Staples from SI gets it! Michigan fans don't......
Gives these guys at least a year with more than a half a dozen players playing considerable time that they have recruited. It's comin boys and you better be ready. brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring.
wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 10:47 PM
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Not, not good. --------------------------------------------- --- WalkerNCH wrote: Gives these guys at least a year with more than a half a dozen players playing considerable time that they have recruited. It's comin boys and you better be ready. brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring.
wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 10:50 PM
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Chidragon wrote: Only one simple key for 2013 - having a healthy Braxton and Kenny all season long.
For everything else (the defense, who steps up at WR, do we have enough OL depth, etc.), I fully believe the coaches can get us enough from all the other parts to go undefeated.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 10:50 PM
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Ready to continue in kicking your ass, correct. WalkerNCH wrote: Gives these guys at least a year with more than a half a dozen players playing considerable time that they have recruited. It's comin boys and you better be ready. brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring. wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff? wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU. narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 11:06 PM
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Mattison hasn't won a single NC, his head coaches have. Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff, himself. A guy who has actually won 2 NC's. I'm not saying Mattison isn't a great coach because he is regarded as such but that isn't how it works. The HC hires the staff and is in charge therefore the credit goes to him. wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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You do realize Meyer has a lot fewer of his players on the roster than Hoke does right, he has a year head start. No one and I mean no one outside of tsun fans believe Hoke will accomplish more than what Meyer already has. I have no doubt you guys will improve but you are whistling past the graveyard. It is amazing how confident you guys are considering you barely beat one of the worst teams we have fielded at home with a lame duck coaching staff and he lost to Meyer in his first year as a coach. You had 2 offensive plays this year which kept you hanging around, the game wasn't nearly as close as the score. Considering what we saw out of Hoke in the second half of the game this year, you should be worried. WalkerNCH wrote: Gives these guys at least a year with more than a half a dozen players playing considerable time that they have recruited. It's comin boys and you better be ready.
brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring.
wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 11:24 PM
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You won't be beating MSU and Nebraska on a regular basis in the future, let alone OSU and Meyer. UofM ain't getting the explosive fast twice defensive athletes Meyer is getting out of the south, that you just saw dominate for both Clemson and LSU. Hoke is a buffoon, only a figure head to use his usual phrases as a big 300 pound inflatable dummy. There's a reason he does not wear head sets, make a call during the game and stands there and claps the whole game, a close to 65 year old assistant coach runs the team. Boys is what describes Michigan, Tressel owned them like a rented mule, Meyer will do the same. Michigan is irrelevant, all of college football knows it, their delusional fans are the only ones that believe it. Not one Big Ten title in a bad Big Ten since 2003, with losses to a 2 win Toledo and D1AA App State along the way, pretty much sums UofM football in this 2000 era we live. Facts hurt, don't they? WalkerNCH wrote: Gives these guys at least a year with more than a half a dozen players playing considerable time that they have recruited. It's comin boys and you better be ready.
brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring.
wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Nope. They don't ;) Michigan is clearly on the right track and Hoke will be around longer than Urban so I hope OSU has a solid backup plan for when his tenure concludes. Just cause Fickell couldn't coach and contain an obvious grease fire in 2011 didn't mean the talent was not there to do better than 6-7. Those losses were on the staff. Only one of their losses came by over 7 points, they were in most of their games but were mistake prone due to an inept staff. I'm jacked to be honest, and am looking VERY FORWARD to OSU traveling NORTH Nov 30th ;) HAHA Go Blue! brutus79 wrote: You won't be beating MSU and Nebraska on a regular basis in the future, let alone OSU and Meyer. UofM ain't getting the explosive fast twice defensive athletes Meyer is getting out of the south, that you just saw dominate for both Clemson and LSU. Hoke is a buffoon, only a figure head to use his usual phrases as a big 300 pound inflatable dummy. There's a reason he does not wear head sets, make a call during the game and stands there and claps the whole game, a close to 65 year old assistant coach runs the team. Boys is what describes Michigan, Tressel owned them like a rented mule, Meyer will do the same. Michigan is irrelevant, all of college football knows it, their delusional fans are the only ones that believe it. Not one Big Ten title in a bad Big Ten since 2003, with losses to a 2 win Toledo and D1AA App State along the way, pretty much sums UofM football in this 2000 era we live. Facts hurt, don't they?
WalkerNCH wrote: Gives these guys at least a year with more than a half a dozen players playing considerable time that they have recruited. It's comin boys and you better be ready.
brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring.
wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 9:39 AM
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This is New Year's day, not April Fools, get your days straight. Michigan is headed for another 4/5 loss season next year with their OL losses, D losses and losing the only speed play makers they have in DRob and Roundtree. And games with Notre Dame, OSU, and at MSU and at NW are losses. Nebraska is bringing back a ton as well. The one thing every delusional Michigan fan does not get, no team, player or coach in the Big Ten fears Michigan any more, not one. Most expect to beat them, and most do not fear playing in the quiet Out House, which had a lot of empty seats their last few homes games this year, unless fans dressed up as seats. Northwestern and Fitz were besides themselves, they expected to win going into AA and should have won, they lose 2 starters on each side of the ball, and now teams like NW expect to beat Michigan every year now, as does MSU, that was not the case 15 years ago. No one fears or really respects Hoke either, most know he is nothing more than a barely above .500 career coach, who is a figure head on the sideline for Mattison. There is not an opposing coach that does not think he can out wit Hoke during a game for goodness sakes, he intimidates no one. He looked like a deer in the headlights against Bama and Saban down 21-0, he was so out classed. Even more so, he is a total oaf and embarrassment with a microphone in his face. Keep dreaming, it is what Michigan fans do, witnessed by no Big Ten titles since 2003 and a .5 a national title in close to 70 years, that speaks volumes to how above average UofM's football program really is. Your national titles you claim in the early 1900s, when there were no newspapers, TV's, electricity, toilets or running water is what you cling to. We do have sympathy for all the apathy this 2000 decade though for you, App State and Toledo, probably not. WalkerNCH wrote:Nope. They don't ;) Michigan is clearly on the right track and Hoke will be around longer than Urban so I hope OSU has a solid backup plan for when his tenure concludes. Just cause Fickell couldn't coach and contain an obvious grease fire in 2011 didn't mean the talent was not there to do better than 6-7. Those losses were on the staff. Only one of their losses came by over 7 points, they were in most of their games but were mistake prone due to an inept staff. I'm jacked to be honest, and am looking VERY FORWARD to OSU traveling NORTH Nov 30th ;) HAHA Go Blue! brutus79 wrote: You won't be beating MSU and Nebraska on a regular basis in the future, let alone OSU and Meyer. UofM ain't getting the explosive fast twice defensive athletes Meyer is getting out of the south, that you just saw dominate for both Clemson and LSU. Hoke is a buffoon, only a figure head to use his usual phrases as a big 300 pound inflatable dummy. There's a reason he does not wear head sets, make a call during the game and stands there and claps the whole game, a close to 65 year old assistant coach runs the team. Boys is what describes Michigan, Tressel owned them like a rented mule, Meyer will do the same. Michigan is irrelevant, all of college football knows it, their delusional fans are the only ones that believe it. Not one Big Ten title in a bad Big Ten since 2003, with losses to a 2 win Toledo and D1AA App State along the way, pretty much sums UofM football in this 2000 era we live. Facts hurt, don't they?
WalkerNCH wrote: Gives these guys at least a year with more than a half a dozen players playing considerable time that they have recruited. It's comin boys and you better be ready.
brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring.
wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 9:59 AM
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Meyer has yet to prove he can win long term (10 years or more) in any one place with his own recruits and without Tim Tebow. The only time he has come close to longevity was his 6 years at Florida when his last team was fully stocked with his own recruits and without Tebow and he went 7-5. Yea I know he was sick or something but the facts are the facts. brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring.
wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 11:31 AM
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Fat people are rarely successful in life. Hoke proves to be no exception to this rule.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 11:34 AM
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So the criteria is you must be at a job longer than 10 years and wins only count with 100% of the players you recruit? Is it harder to win with players you recruit vs. ones others recruited? Isn't is more difficult to quickly change the culture and win immediately? You sound like Illinois fans who think Zook, the guys who was fired from his last 2 jobs should be given credit for Meyer's 2 NC's. The fact is that what he has done is harder than someone who has been entrenched in a job for a long period of time. Don't wait for your Mensa application. wolfman7 wrote: Meyer has yet to prove he can win long term (10 years or more) in any one place with his own recruits and without Tim Tebow. The only time he has come close to longevity was his 6 years at Florida when his last team was fully stocked with his own recruits and without Tebow and he went 7-5. Yea I know he was sick or something but the facts are the facts.
brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring.
wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff?
wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU.
narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 11:39 AM
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Jabba has yet to prove he can win anywhere, with his recruits or another coach's recruits. He has zero conference titles in 10 years of coaching. By the way moron Meyer recruited Tebow. Should we say the 1/2 of a national title that scum has won over the past 60 plus years does not count because they would not have won it without Charles Woodson. That is a great argument. Did you also know if Eli Manning did not play for the Giants last year they would not have won the Super Bowl? Also did you see the talent that Florida lost after 2009. Most teams will take a step back after losing that much NFL talent. Also are you giving Meyer the credit for Florida's success this year since those are Meyer's recruits? wolfman7 wrote: Meyer has yet to prove he can win long term (10 years or more) in any one place with his own recruits and without Tim Tebow. The only time he has come close to longevity was his 6 years at Florida when his last team was fully stocked with his own recruits and without Tebow and he went 7-5. Yea I know he was sick or something but the facts are the facts. brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring. wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff? wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU. narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 1:13 PM
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Wow, the Michigan fans posting in this thread must be drunk or stoned. The logic (or lack thereof) is ridiculous.
Meyer has won EVERYWHERE he has coached. He has taken over poor programs or struggling programs and made them big and successful. If you yahoos used your own logic on your coach you would be spitting hatred on Hoke, who has failed to win anywhere he has gone, nor has he stayed anywhere longer than Meyer.
You see, this is the worst punishment of all from the NCAA... OSU is forced to lose a season, even having to suffer a lame Michigan win, and now the UM fans are out of the woodwork acting as if they are relevant again or have something. You bozos missed that OSU won again, in a rematch of the same two teams who played in 2011 and you guys lost... you couldn't even get past midfield in the second half.
Move along and come back when you are sober.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 2:05 PM
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Give the man time to get his guys....RR left a mess on the lines.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 4:01 PM
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WalkerNCH wrote: Give the man time to get his guys....RR left a mess on the lines. I am more than willing to accept the fact tsun will get better and he still needs to get the roster where he wants it but the mouth breathing logic some of your fans are displaying to discredit Meyer's success makes you guys look like idiots.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 5:24 PM
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WalkerNCH wrote: Nope. They don't ;) Michigan is clearly on the right track and Hoke will be around longer than Urban so I hope OSU has a solid backup plan for when his tenure concludes. Just cause Fickell couldn't coach and contain an obvious grease fire in 2011 didn't mean the talent was not there to do better than 6-7. Those losses were on the staff. Only one of their losses came by over 7 points, they were in most of their games but were mistake prone due to an inept staff. I'm jacked to be honest, and am looking VERY FORWARD to OSU traveling NORTH Nov 30th ;) HAHA Go Blue! brutus79 wrote: You won't be beating MSU and Nebraska on a regular basis in the future, let alone OSU and Meyer. UofM ain't getting the explosive fast twice defensive athletes Meyer is getting out of the south, that you just saw dominate for both Clemson and LSU. Hoke is a buffoon, only a figure head to use his usual phrases as a big 300 pound inflatable dummy. There's a reason he does not wear head sets, make a call during the game and stands there and claps the whole game, a close to 65 year old assistant coach runs the team. Boys is what describes Michigan, Tressel owned them like a rented mule, Meyer will do the same. Michigan is irrelevant, all of college football knows it, their delusional fans are the only ones that believe it. Not one Big Ten title in a bad Big Ten since 2003, with losses to a 2 win Toledo and D1AA App State along the way, pretty much sums UofM football in this 2000 era we live. Facts hurt, don't they? WalkerNCH wrote: Gives these guys at least a year with more than a half a dozen players playing considerable time that they have recruited. It's comin boys and you better be ready. brutus79 wrote: Big deal, your fans constant reminder of grandpa Mattison is so borish, in a few years he is in a retirement home for goodness sakes. Mattison is 0 for 2 in the Big Ten, he cannot even help get UofM to a Big Ten title on their side of the ledger. WR coach Smith was at Florida with Meyer as a WR coach, and so was current OSU RB coach Drayton. They have national titles rings under Meyer. Fickell has been a co DC of a top 5 OSU defense for the last 5/6 years, and a position coach on the 2002 national title team, Meyer has plenty of proven coaches on staff with national titles. Withers had a of a stint at Texas, and then part of the dominant Tennessee Titans with Jeff Fisher, then running a top 15 defense every year at North Carolina. What Meyer has done is go 12-0 at Utah, win a second national title at Florida and go 12-0 at OSU with grandpa Mattison. Keep the Mattison rhetoric on your board, Urban has won every he went as a coach, and won big, and most years he never had Greg Mattison. You clowns got nothing else to hang your hat on so the repeated Mattison garbage, you would think he invented football, although he is old enough. Got news for you, Bo Pelini at 45 has a more impressive resume in the NFL and college was a DC and defensive coach than Mattison (Super Bowl ring at San Fran, BCS title at LSU and BCS title game at Oklahoma as a DC), and Dantonio's is every bit as impressive, with multiple national titles with Jim Tressel at YSU and OSU, plus a heck of a run with Saban at MSU. The new Penn State DC has a recent national title at Auburn and a heck of a resume, your hero Mattison is not the only DC with a resume in the Big Ten, get over it. How come no college or NFL team ever wanted the great Mattison as a head coach? You ever hear of Charlie Strong, he was the co DC for both Florida national titles under Urban Meyer. See a pattern? No, you are too dumb. Meyer is the one constant everywhere he goes, his coaches benefits from his system, and his elite recruiting prowless. We all remember you over here not too long ago blowing your horn how RR and Barwis were going to revolutionize UofM and dominate their Big Ten, your track record is laughable and your rubbish is boring. wolfman7 wrote: I could have sworn Mattison won a couple of national championships as a DC and was even called a great coach by Meyer. Or doesn't he count as the person half responsible for the performance of the team? Who does Meyer have comparable on his staff? wcbuckeye80 wrote: LOL at you. You don't really think that, do you? We have one of the best coaches in America. Michigan has a guy who has never won a championship of any kind as a HC. It really isn't that hard to figure this out.
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Oh for cryin out loud....you people are losin it. Michigan is going to be step for step right with OSU. narfa wrote: I think Hoke is the perfect coach for Ohio State. He'll probably do good enough to get 9-10 wins consistently enough that he can't fired but he is not good enough to seriously contend against Meyer. Perfect.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 5:57 PM
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Michigan is back, at 8-5. This is the Michigan we grew up with, over ranked and over hyped, fans and their media yapping greatness. Thus, another 8-5 type season. Do they play Applachian State next year? Their back seven on defense made two very mediocre QB's at South Carolina and a bad offense look like Bill Walsh's west coast passing offense.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 6:27 PM
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Come on, guys. Meatchicken has that all-world QB coming in next year. Didn't he re-write all the high school records in that God-forsaken state? And we all know how great the football is up there. Pretty much on a par with Idaho or Wyoming.
Sounds exactly like that in-state running back, Kevin Grady, they recruited a few years back who had 8,000 yards in high school and then couldn't see the field in college. What a motherlode of talent that state produces. I just know Urban is quaking in his boots at the prospect of this new uber-QB taking the field next year!!
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Posted: 1/1/2013 6:31 PM
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Morris? He'll redshirt. Gadner is gonna be nasty the next 2 years. God I'm stoked! GO BLUE! wynnosu wrote: Come on, guys. Meatchicken has that all-world QB coming in next year. Didn't he re-write all the high school records in that God-forsaken state? And we all know how great the football is up there. Pretty much on a par with Idaho or Wyoming.
Sounds exactly like that in-state running back, Kevin Grady, they recruited a few years back who had 8,000 yards in high school and then couldn't see the field in college. What a motherlode of talent that state produces. I just know Urban is quaking in his boots at the prospect of this new uber-QB taking the field next year!!
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