1984gator wrote: There was no team in the B1G that could have beaten USCe this year.  Florida narrowly missed it's shot at the title game and let down in the bowl.  So what?  Florida beat 4 teams in the BCS top 10 as well and will be back to do it again next year.  Bama had a similar let down in 08 when Florida beat them for a chance at the title and they dropped a game to Utah but nobody actually thinks utah was better team. 

The  SEC won the title for the 7 straight year and the SEC won most of its bowl games but how about the B1G?  How many years in a row has this been the case?  All you have to do is look at the recruiting strength of the conference to understand why that happened.  South Carolina was easily stronger than every team in the B1G.  Sorry, truth hurts, your team cheated and doesn't even qualify for consideration.... 

87falcon44 wrote: SCar is not better than every team in the big. Didn't a NC contender from the SEC just get their asses kicked by the big east. For someone who is coming off an embarrassing loss by getting your ass beat by the big east, you sure do a lot of gum flapping.

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--- 1984gator wrote:

Well excuse me that expansion was more than 20 years ago and don't look now but South carolina is better than any team in in the B1G.  While you're at it, check out attendance.  Arky's made a few SEC title games too!  Wasn't it just a couple years ago that your conference champion barely beat the SEC 4th place team, even withillegal players.  Wasn't the victory vacated?

NewOrleansBuckeye wrote:

1984gator wrote: The B1G and SEC employ very different strategies.  Both want viewer dollars but the SEC has developed a very big qualitative lead! Recruiting is at the core of this as is the culture of football in the south.   Product quality is more important to the SEC's expansion plans than it is apparently the B1G.  The ACC and BEast went their route and failed!

Give me a fen’ break on this!!

If quality is the core just how did South Carolina or Arkansas make it in your first expansion?  Yea!! at one time Arkansas was a good team, fen’ South Carolina was never any damn good and until just recently broke the 500 mark in wins. Missouri and Texas A&M brought what the sec needed the most a couple teams with a pulse when it comes to education and A&M is a decent football team.

 

I’ll give you recruiting, hell it don’t take a fen’ rocket scientist to figure out where the speed players are at. Now culture is another fen’ story!!!

 

Culture- “a group of people who share beliefs and practices”.

 

Now as far as football and culture, your getting a little confused here, the Big-Ten States have 243 different (4-year) colleges who play football compared to 145 SEC States and that includes Texas and Missouri who make up 39% with 56 of those. Plus we can add 19 more when Maryland and N.J join us. Maybe your just thinking Big-Name football teams  well thats just fine but culture is more than just a fen’  Bama or Tennessee, etc, etc.

 

Now; lets fen’ talk Florida ; my first job out of college was at RCA Data Processing in West Palm Beach , bought a house in Jupiter. Yea this was before segregation; the only team worth taking about was Miami, whom by the way up until 1980 only had six All-Americans, your school the Gator’s, when I first moved there didn’t have any, Steve Spurrier would give Florida its first All American in 1966 a year after I moved to Jupiter.

 

The only thing Jupiter bragged about, and I missed him (3 years older) was Burt Reynolds (born in Michigan) went to Florida State, but he went to Palm Beach HS not Jupiter HS, and I never did figure that one out!!

 

If you graduated in 1984 you probably only seen three All-Americans ( Marshall , two times) during your stay in Gainesville . That is not fen’ culture that’s called fen’ LUCK!!  

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87falcon44 wrote: There was no way SCar would have beat OSU lasy year, sorry to burst your bubble.  Congrats on the SEC winning a 7th title in a row.  You must be very proud, breaking out your SEC shirts and hats trumpeting the feat.  Your team got it's ass beat, and was clearly the lesser of the two teams.  Your "they weren't up for a BCS game" nonsense doesn't fly.  Sorry if the truth hurts your little feelings.  Your team was exposed for what it was.  Time to deal with it and move on.

OPace wrote: 1984gator wrote: There was no team in the B1G that could have beaten USCe this year.

As evidenced by South Carolina needing a last second score to beat the #4/#5 Big Ten team

Come on, quit believing whatever gator1984 says. He got the fen’ brains of a Florida fence post, if fen' that!!

NorfolkVaTiger wrote: Interesting, in a tin-foil hat sort of way, scenario from Mr. SEC about how the SEC and Big 12 could undermine the ACC by announcing a scheduling agreement.

He doesn't think this will really happen but throws it out for consideration.  Worth a read if you like conspiracy theories about conference realignment:

Mr. SEC

lowiq wrote: va he was there long enough to build his own program. you can blame the first two seasons on the last regime but at some points its your baby.

over SIXTEEN seasons alvarez was 65-60-3 .510 against big ten teams.

over seven seasons bielama was 38-18 .670 against big ten teams.

yes alvarez built the program up.

bielama took it up another step in his time.

i dont see how you consider me "spinning" anything to compare the teams each had to play in their rose bowls. 2 of the 3 alvarez got were 3 loss teams before the game.

lowiq wrote: i was a LITTLE bit screwing with the board because he is in the sec now.

once somebody started argueing with me i was happy and couldnt stop.

TheOhioArsenal wrote: Northwestern 57  duh sec 33

1984gator wrote: There was no team in the B1G that could have beaten USCe this year.  Florida narrowly missed it's shot at the title game and let down in the bowl.  So what?  Florida beat 4 teams in the BCS top 10 as well and will be back to do it again next year.  Bama had a similar let down in 08 when Florida beat them for a chance at the title and they dropped a game to Utah but nobody actually thinks utah was better team. 

The  SEC won the title for the 7 straight year and the SEC won most of its bowl games but how about the B1G?  How many years in a row has this been the case?  All you have to do is look at the recruiting strength of the conference to understand why that happened.  South Carolina was easily stronger than every team in the B1G.  Sorry, truth hurts, your team cheated and doesn't even qualify for consideration.... 

87falcon44 wrote: SCar is not better than every team in the big. Didn't a NC contender from the SEC just get their asses kicked by the big east. For someone who is coming off an embarrassing loss by getting your ass beat by the big east, you sure do a lot of gum flapping.

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--- 1984gator wrote:

Well excuse me that expansion was more than 20 years ago and don't look now but South carolina is better than any team in in the B1G.  While you're at it, check out attendance.  Arky's made a few SEC title games too!  Wasn't it just a couple years ago that your conference champion barely beat the SEC 4th place team, even withillegal players.  Wasn't the victory vacated?

NewOrleansBuckeye wrote:

1984gator wrote: The B1G and SEC employ very different strategies.  Both want viewer dollars but the SEC has developed a very big qualitative lead! Recruiting is at the core of this as is the culture of football in the south.   Product quality is more important to the SEC's expansion plans than it is apparently the B1G.  The ACC and BEast went their route and failed!

Give me a fen’ break on this!!

If quality is the core just how did South Carolina or Arkansas make it in your first expansion?  Yea!! at one time Arkansas was a good team, fen’ South Carolina was never any damn good and until just recently broke the 500 mark in wins. Missouri and Texas A&M brought what the sec needed the most a couple teams with a pulse when it comes to education and A&M is a decent football team.

 

I’ll give you recruiting, hell it don’t take a fen’ rocket scientist to figure out where the speed players are at. Now culture is another fen’ story!!!

 

Culture- “a group of people who share beliefs and practices”.

 

Now as far as football and culture, your getting a little confused here, the Big-Ten States have 243 different (4-year) colleges who play football compared to 145 SEC States and that includes Texas and Missouri who make up 39% with 56 of those. Plus we can add 19 more when Maryland and N.J join us. Maybe your just thinking Big-Name football teams  well thats just fine but culture is more than just a fen’  Bama or Tennessee, etc, etc.

 

Now; lets fen’ talk Florida ; my first job out of college was at RCA Data Processing in West Palm Beach , bought a house in Jupiter. Yea this was before segregation; the only team worth taking about was Miami, whom by the way up until 1980 only had six All-Americans, your school the Gator’s, when I first moved there didn’t have any, Steve Spurrier would give Florida its first All American in 1966 a year after I moved to Jupiter.

 

The only thing Jupiter bragged about, and I missed him (3 years older) was Burt Reynolds (born in Michigan) went to Florida State, but he went to Palm Beach HS not Jupiter HS, and I never did figure that one out!!

 

If you graduated in 1984 you probably only seen three All-Americans ( Marshall , two times) during your stay in Gainesville . That is not fen’ culture that’s called fen’ LUCK!!  

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TheOhioArsenal wrote: Northwestern 57  duh sec 33

1984gator wrote: There was no team in the B1G that could have beaten USCe this year.  Florida narrowly missed it's shot at the title game and let down in the bowl.  So what?  Florida beat 4 teams in the BCS top 10 as well and will be back to do it again next year.  Bama had a similar let down in 08 when Florida beat them for a chance at the title and they dropped a game to Utah but nobody actually thinks utah was better team. 

The  SEC won the title for the 7 straight year and the SEC won most of its bowl games but how about the B1G?  How many years in a row has this been the case?  All you have to do is look at the recruiting strength of the conference to understand why that happened.  South Carolina was easily stronger than every team in the B1G.  Sorry, truth hurts, your team cheated and doesn't even qualify for consideration.... 

87falcon44 wrote: SCar is not better than every team in the big. Didn't a NC contender from the SEC just get their asses kicked by the big east. For someone who is coming off an embarrassing loss by getting your ass beat by the big east, you sure do a lot of gum flapping.

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--- 1984gator wrote:

Well excuse me that expansion was more than 20 years ago and don't look now but South carolina is better than any team in in the B1G.  While you're at it, check out attendance.  Arky's made a few SEC title games too!  Wasn't it just a couple years ago that your conference champion barely beat the SEC 4th place team, even withillegal players.  Wasn't the victory vacated?

NewOrleansBuckeye wrote:

1984gator wrote: The B1G and SEC employ very different strategies.  Both want viewer dollars but the SEC has developed a very big qualitative lead! Recruiting is at the core of this as is the culture of football in the south.   Product quality is more important to the SEC's expansion plans than it is apparently the B1G.  The ACC and BEast went their route and failed!

Give me a fen’ break on this!!

If quality is the core just how did South Carolina or Arkansas make it in your first expansion?  Yea!! at one time Arkansas was a good team, fen’ South Carolina was never any damn good and until just recently broke the 500 mark in wins. Missouri and Texas A&M brought what the sec needed the most a couple teams with a pulse when it comes to education and A&M is a decent football team.

 

I’ll give you recruiting, hell it don’t take a fen’ rocket scientist to figure out where the speed players are at. Now culture is another fen’ story!!!

 

Culture- “a group of people who share beliefs and practices”.

 

Now as far as football and culture, your getting a little confused here, the Big-Ten States have 243 different (4-year) colleges who play football compared to 145 SEC States and that includes Texas and Missouri who make up 39% with 56 of those. Plus we can add 19 more when Maryland and N.J join us. Maybe your just thinking Big-Name football teams  well thats just fine but culture is more than just a fen’  Bama or Tennessee, etc, etc.

 

Now; lets fen’ talk Florida ; my first job out of college was at RCA Data Processing in West Palm Beach , bought a house in Jupiter. Yea this was before segregation; the only team worth taking about was Miami, whom by the way up until 1980 only had six All-Americans, your school the Gator’s, when I first moved there didn’t have any, Steve Spurrier would give Florida its first All American in 1966 a year after I moved to Jupiter.

 

The only thing Jupiter bragged about, and I missed him (3 years older) was Burt Reynolds (born in Michigan) went to Florida State, but he went to Palm Beach HS not Jupiter HS, and I never did figure that one out!!

 

If you graduated in 1984 you probably only seen three All-Americans ( Marshall , two times) during your stay in Gainesville . That is not fen’ culture that’s called fen’ LUCK!!  

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TheOhioArsenal wrote: Northwestern 57  duh sec 33

1984gator wrote: There was no team in the B1G that could have beaten USCe this year.  Florida narrowly missed it's shot at the title game and let down in the bowl.  So what?  Florida beat 4 teams in the BCS top 10 as well and will be back to do it again next year.  Bama had a similar let down in 08 when Florida beat them for a chance at the title and they dropped a game to Utah but nobody actually thinks utah was better team. 

The  SEC won the title for the 7 straight year and the SEC won most of its bowl games but how about the B1G?  How many years in a row has this been the case?  All you have to do is look at the recruiting strength of the conference to understand why that happened.  South Carolina was easily stronger than every team in the B1G.  Sorry, truth hurts, your team cheated and doesn't even qualify for consideration.... 

87falcon44 wrote: SCar is not better than every team in the big. Didn't a NC contender from the SEC just get their asses kicked by the big east. For someone who is coming off an embarrassing loss by getting your ass beat by the big east, you sure do a lot of gum flapping.

---------------------------------------------
--- 1984gator wrote:

Well excuse me that expansion was more than 20 years ago and don't look now but South carolina is better than any team in in the B1G.  While you're at it, check out attendance.  Arky's made a few SEC title games too!  Wasn't it just a couple years ago that your conference champion barely beat the SEC 4th place team, even withillegal players.  Wasn't the victory vacated?

NewOrleansBuckeye wrote:

1984gator wrote: The B1G and SEC employ very different strategies.  Both want viewer dollars but the SEC has developed a very big qualitative lead! Recruiting is at the core of this as is the culture of football in the south.   Product quality is more important to the SEC's expansion plans than it is apparently the B1G.  The ACC and BEast went their route and failed!

Give me a fen’ break on this!!

If quality is the core just how did South Carolina or Arkansas make it in your first expansion?  Yea!! at one time Arkansas was a good team, fen’ South Carolina was never any damn good and until just recently broke the 500 mark in wins. Missouri and Texas A&M brought what the sec needed the most a couple teams with a pulse when it comes to education and A&M is a decent football team.

 

I’ll give you recruiting, hell it don’t take a fen’ rocket scientist to figure out where the speed players are at. Now culture is another fen’ story!!!

 

Culture- “a group of people who share beliefs and practices”.

 

Now as far as football and culture, your getting a little confused here, the Big-Ten States have 243 different (4-year) colleges who play football compared to 145 SEC States and that includes Texas and Missouri who make up 39% with 56 of those. Plus we can add 19 more when Maryland and N.J join us. Maybe your just thinking Big-Name football teams  well thats just fine but culture is more than just a fen’  Bama or Tennessee, etc, etc.

 

Now; lets fen’ talk Florida ; my first job out of college was at RCA Data Processing in West Palm Beach , bought a house in Jupiter. Yea this was before segregation; the only team worth taking about was Miami, whom by the way up until 1980 only had six All-Americans, your school the Gator’s, when I first moved there didn’t have any, Steve Spurrier would give Florida its first All American in 1966 a year after I moved to Jupiter.

 

The only thing Jupiter bragged about, and I missed him (3 years older) was Burt Reynolds (born in Michigan) went to Florida State, but he went to Palm Beach HS not Jupiter HS, and I never did figure that one out!!

 

If you graduated in 1984 you probably only seen three All-Americans ( Marshall , two times) during your stay in Gainesville . That is not fen’ culture that’s called fen’ LUCK!!  

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@ ddamarketing It's FSU despite the lack of AAU membership. More on Monday.




FSU and UVA to B1G  per Dude, when Maryland case settles.

teeduck wrote: The Dude of WV ‏ @ theDudeofWV

@ ddamarketing It's FSU despite the lack of AAU membership. More on Monday.




FSU and UVA to B1G  per Dude, when Maryland case settles.