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RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls

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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:55 PM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



TideFaninFl wrote:
buckwild23 wrote: LMAO...Alabama is 1-5 against Notre Dame.

DEAL WITH IT!

Alabama has more national titles than Notre Dame.... and Bama will be adding one more come January....

DEAL WITH IT....... tongue



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You A-OK with me TidefaninFl.   cool

Good luck!
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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:58 PM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



buckwild23 wrote:
TideFaninFl wrote:
buckwild23 wrote: LMAO...Alabama is 1-5 against Notre Dame.

DEAL WITH IT!

Alabama has more national titles than Notre Dame.... and Bama will be adding one more come January....

DEAL WITH IT....... tongue



cool

You A-OK with me TidefaninFl.   cool

Good luck!
No problem.....

I do imagine you are a bit sick realizing that not only would Ohio St be in the NC this, but it would have also ended the SEC run of NCs......

Think OSU would have scored 70+ on NU like UW did?

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Posted: 12/4/2012 2:01 PM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



TideFaninFl wrote:
buckwild23 wrote:
TideFaninFl wrote:
buckwild23 wrote: LMAO...Alabama is 1-5 against Notre Dame.

DEAL WITH IT!

Alabama has more national titles than Notre Dame.... and Bama will be adding one more come January....

DEAL WITH IT....... tongue



cool

You A-OK with me TidefaninFl.   cool

Good luck!
No problem.....

I do imagine you are a bit sick realizing that not only would Ohio St be in the NC this, but it would have also ended the SEC run of NCs......

Think OSU would have scored 70+ on NU like UW did?

cool

Can't change the past.  Que cera....cera.  I guess seeing OSU go 12-0 helps a bit.

Also....When Bama defeats ND.   The Buckeyes will be the ONLY undefeated program left.  cool

OSU scored 63 the first time around.  So what do you think?

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Posted: 12/4/2012 2:04 PM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



buckwild23 wrote:


Can't change the past.  Que cera....cera.  I guess seeing OSU go 12-0 helps a bit.

Also....When Bama defeats ND.   The Buckeyes will be the ONLY undefeated program left.  cool

OSU scored 63 the first time around.  So what do you think?
redface- did not know that.....

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Posted: 12/4/2012 3:21 PM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



DeepSthBoy wrote:
ssbucks wrote: Where is the DeepSouth Boy??
Right here.

I can tell you that this stat is not one that is lost on any Bama fan. A better thing to use is this -- 1966/1973/1977

Maybe between now and January 7th, you guys can trot those three years out day after day.

That isn't nearly as entertaining to me, however, as it is when OSUVB and some of you guys trot out total wins or conference championships or some other such stat to establish Ohio State as an "all-timer". My son is 16 and he has seen as many national championships from Bama as any Ohio State fan that is 50 has seen. Now THERE is a stat.
total wins and conf championships are earned...

MNC are voted on - Bama didn't earn a MNC last year... finishing 3rd in your conference and having a weak resume but still getting people to vote for you just shows how epically flawed the MNC really is
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Posted: 12/4/2012 3:36 PM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



MissStateBuckeye wrote:
total wins and conf championships are earned...

MNC are voted on - Bama didn't earn a MNC last year... finishing 3rd in your conference and having a weak resume but still getting people to vote for you just shows how epically flawed the MNC really is

Wisconsin certainly won it on the field. 

When is the last time the 40th-50th best team in the nation won the National Championship? That is the same as a sixth place conference team winning the Conference Title.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 3:51 PM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



wizwiz wrote:
MissStateBuckeye wrote:
total wins and conf championships are earned...

MNC are voted on - Bama didn't earn a MNC last year... finishing 3rd in your conference and having a weak resume but still getting people to vote for you just shows how epically flawed the MNC really is

Wisconsin certainly won it on the field. 

When is the last time the 40th-50th best team in the nation won the National Championship? That is the same as a sixth place conference team winning the Conference Title.
how did Bama earn the nc last season over Okie St?

if you're undefeated - you did all you can do...

if you lose a game then you didn't earn it - you got the luck of the vote... just like this year... Bama is getting the vote over KSU, Oregon, etc... it is what it is... the worst way possible of determining a champion... it's friggin sad really

conference championships aren't voted on... they are won on the field...

1996 did UF earn the MNC over tOSU?
1998 did FSU earn the right to play for the MNC over tOSU?
2000 did FSU earn the right to play for the MNC over Miami who had beaten them?
2001 did Neb earn the right over Oregon?
2003 did LSU or Oklahoma earn the right over USC?
2004 did USC or Oklahoma earn over Auburn?
this list can go on and on and on

the answer is quite simply no... it wasn't earned on the field... it was decided by pen and paper

this year Wisconsin was probably the 5th best team in the B1G - this was the most unlikely scenerio to play out this year with tOSU and PSU both being on probation... that's a fluke...
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:16 PM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



MissStateBuckeye wrote:
wizwiz wrote:
MissStateBuckeye wrote:
total wins and conf championships are earned...

MNC are voted on - Bama didn't earn a MNC last year... finishing 3rd in your conference and having a weak resume but still getting people to vote for you just shows how epically flawed the MNC really is

Wisconsin certainly won it on the field. 

When is the last time the 40th-50th best team in the nation won the National Championship? That is the same as a sixth place conference team winning the Conference Title.
how did Bama earn the nc last season over Okie St?

if you're undefeated - you did all you can do...

if you lose a game then you didn't earn it - you got the luck of the vote... just like this year... Bama is getting the vote over KSU, Oregon, etc... it is what it is... the worst way possible of determining a champion... it's friggin sad really

conference championships aren't voted on... they are won on the field...

1996 did UF earn the MNC over tOSU?
1998 did FSU earn the right to play for the MNC over tOSU?
2000 did FSU earn the right to play for the MNC over Miami who had beaten them?
2001 did Neb earn the right over Oregon?
2003 did LSU or Oklahoma earn the right over USC?
2004 did USC or Oklahoma earn over Auburn?
this list can go on and on and on

the answer is quite simply no... it wasn't earned on the field... it was decided by pen and paper

this year Wisconsin was probably the 5th best team in the B1G - this was the most unlikely scenerio to play out this year with tOSU and PSU both being on probation... that's a fluke...
I was not questioning your stance of the National Title. I question your idea that Conference Titles are earned relative to National Titles.

The example I gave clearly indicates the exact opposite. Never in history has a 50th ranked team won the National Title, yet this year the sixth best team(out of 12) won the BIG10 Title.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:56 PM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 


earn it with a crap a sched...

Me: hey I'm faster than you. 
You: but you only ran 50 yds, I ran 100.
Me: I earned it.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:06 PM

Re: Alabama has never beat Notre Dame in a bowl game 



BigMen wrote: We haven't played them in a bowl game since 1974 season. Not hardly relevant.


Um, wait a minute. I seem to recall you talking about Ohio State never having beaten Alabama- despite only playing 3 games in 120+ years... wink

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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:07 PM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 


Although, I agree with you- the record is irrelevant. All that counts are this year's teams.

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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:39 PM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



MissStateBuckeye wrote:
DeepSthBoy wrote:
ssbucks wrote: Where is the DeepSouth Boy??
Right here.

I can tell you that this stat is not one that is lost on any Bama fan. A better thing to use is this -- 1966/1973/1977

Maybe between now and January 7th, you guys can trot those three years out day after day.

That isn't nearly as entertaining to me, however, as it is when OSUVB and some of you guys trot out total wins or conference championships or some other such stat to establish Ohio State as an "all-timer". My son is 16 and he has seen as many national championships from Bama as any Ohio State fan that is 50 has seen. Now THERE is a stat.
total wins and conf championships are earned...

MNC are voted on - Bama didn't earn a MNC last year... finishing 3rd in your conference and having a weak resume but still getting people to vote for you just shows how epically flawed the MNC really is
You make yourself look "epically" ignorant when you post this sort of butthurt stuff. There is not even any point in rehashing all the reasons that Bama played in that game. You have to be beyond moronic not to get it. Sorry if you don't like it.

I wonder -- would you accept an AP championship if it was voted to OSU right now?
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:18 PM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



buckwild23 wrote: LMAO...Alabama is 1-5 against Notre Dame.

DEAL WITH IT!
And OSU is 0-3 against Alabama. mouth.gif
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:18 PM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



MissStateBuckeye wrote:
wizwiz wrote:
MissStateBuckeye wrote:
total wins and conf championships are earned...

MNC are voted on - Bama didn't earn a MNC last year... finishing 3rd in your conference and having a weak resume but still getting people to vote for you just shows how epically flawed the MNC really is

Wisconsin certainly won it on the field. 

When is the last time the 40th-50th best team in the nation won the National Championship? That is the same as a sixth place conference team winning the Conference Title.
how did Bama earn the nc last season over Okie St?

if you're undefeated - you did all you can do...

if you lose a game then you didn't earn it - you got the luck of the vote... just like this year... Bama is getting the vote over KSU, Oregon, etc... it is what it is... the worst way possible of determining a champion... it's friggin sad really

conference championships aren't voted on... they are won on the field...

1996 did UF earn the MNC over tOSU?
1998 did FSU earn the right to play for the MNC over tOSU?
2000 did FSU earn the right to play for the MNC over Miami who had beaten them?
2001 did Neb earn the right over Oregon?
2003 did LSU or Oklahoma earn the right over USC?
2004 did USC or Oklahoma earn over Auburn?
this list can go on and on and on

the answer is quite simply no... it wasn't earned on the field... it was decided by pen and paper

this year Wisconsin was probably the 5th best team in the B1G - this was the most unlikely scenerio to play out this year with tOSU and PSU both being on probation... that's a fluke...
It all depends on the preseason rankings and where each team starts at. Alabama with winning the NC last year obviously was going to be ranked very high. Amazing how USC choked though. One thing I am going to love with Meyer as head coach he is going to pummel teams early on before the BCS rankings come out. It used to piss me off when Tressel would take the foot off the pedal on games when we could have won by 30+ but yet settled for a 14 point win.

 

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Posted: 12/5/2012 9:26 AM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



JPdub wrote:
buckwild23 wrote: LMAO...Alabama is 1-5 against Notre Dame.

DEAL WITH IT!
And OSU is 0-3 against Alabama. mouth.gif

I don't care. (and I witnessed the 3rd loss LIVE)

The fact is all the stats in the world will mean absolutely nothing when those two teams face off in January.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 10:16 AM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 


Eye test for 2013 and right here right now is all you need.
Notre Dame does not have the horses to play with Bama, or faced a team with these big explosive atheltes and depth all year.
One common opponent within a short span, ND squeaked by Michigan at home with 6 UofM TO's, two in the Irish red zone.
Bama date raped Michigan, could have scored 50 if they wanted, the second half Saban had a controlled scrimmage.
T'eo this, T'eo that.   Pitt ran the ball on ND, and USC gouged them in the run game with smaller backs.  Stanford ran the ball on them, and left easily 10 or more points in the red zone.  T'eo is going to have tire tracks of Bama OL and Lacy/Yeldon combo.
Bama by double digits.
Saban vs. Kelly, huge mismatch for Saban.
buckwild23 wrote:
JPdub wrote:
buckwild23 wrote: LMAO...Alabama is 1-5 against Notre Dame.

DEAL WITH IT!
And OSU is 0-3 against Alabama. mouth.gif

I don't care. (and I witnessed the 3rd loss LIVE)

The fact is all the stats in the world will mean absolutely nothing when those two teams face off in January.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 10:20 AM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 


Are you just going to keep posting the same stuff over and over?  And Stanford didn't run on them.  Taylor averaged less than 4 yards per carry.  And it's no secret why USC had a bit of success running the ball.  ND dropped both safeties and even a LB into coverage on most plays to prevent USC from hitting big passing plays which was their only real weapon.

And honestly, using a game ND played back in September when Golson was inexperienced is pretty silly considering the ND offense is nothing like the one that faced Michigan.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 10:27 AM

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Why don't you go back to your ND hole and rock you crawled out from under and talk amongst yourself how relevant ND is.
The eye test in September is no different than the eye test recently, Alabama has better athletes in the trenches, way more explosive big time depth as well.
No one is naive enough to think Kelly will out coach Saban with a month to plan, and during a game except people like you and the Irish fan base.
You do not want to read or hear Bama is going to kick the tar out of Notre Dame, stay on your own board.
This game is like a 11-1 MSU that went to play a motivated 10-2 Bama two years ago and just got crushed in a bowl game, just like Michigan did.  A MSU that beat Notre Dame.
Notre Dame has not seen these kind of athletes all year, and you cannot simulate them in practice.  Once they run by you in waves in a game, it is game over.
Gholson against a real defense, and one that can slow the run is going to get exposed for his youth, and Tommy Rees will not rally ND late against Bama like he did a few other games, that luck only last so long.
Ty Webb wrote: Are you just going to keep posting the same s
tuff over and over?  And Stanford didn't run on them.  Taylor averaged less than 4 yards per carry.  And it's no secret why USC had a bit of success running the ball.  ND dropped both safeties and even a LB into coverage on most plays to prevent USC from hitting big passing plays which was their only real weapon.

And honestly, using a game ND played back in September when Golson was inexperienced is pretty silly considering the ND offense is nothing like the one that faced Michigan.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 10:38 AM

RE: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



brutus79 wrote: Why don't you go back to your ND hole and rock you crawled out from under and talk amongst yourself how relevant ND is.
The eye test in September is no different than the eye test recently, Alabama has better athletes in the trenches, way more explosive big time depth as well.
No one is naive enough to think Kelly will out coach Saban with a month to plan, and during a game except people like you and the Irish fan base.
You do not want to read or hear Bama is going to kick the tar out of Notre Dame, stay on your own board.
This game is like a 11-1 MSU that went to play a motivated 10-2 Bama two years ago and just got crushed in a bowl game, just like Michigan did.  A MSU that beat Notre Dame.
Notre Dame has not seen these kind of athletes all year, and you cannot simulate them in practice.  Once they run by you in waves in a game, it is game over.
Gholson against a real defense, and one that can slow the run is going to get exposed for his youth, and Tommy Rees will not rally ND late against Bama like he did a few other games, that luck only last so long.
Ty Webb wrote: Are you just going to keep posting the same s
tuff over and over?  And Stanford didn't run on them.  Taylor averaged less than 4 yards per carry.  And it's no secret why USC had a bit of success running the ball.  ND dropped both safeties and even a LB into coverage on most plays to prevent USC from hitting big passing plays which was their only real weapon.

And honestly, using a game ND played back in September when Golson was inexperienced is pretty silly considering the ND offense is nothing like the one that faced Michigan.
LOL.  Gotcha.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:17 AM

Re: Alabama 1-5 vs Notre Dame, 0-2 in bowls 



wizwiz wrote:
MissStateBuckeye wrote:
wizwiz wrote:
MissStateBuckeye wrote:
total wins and conf championships are earned...

MNC are voted on - Bama didn't earn a MNC last year... finishing 3rd in your conference and having a weak resume but still getting people to vote for you just shows how epically flawed the MNC really is

Wisconsin certainly won it on the field. 

When is the last time the 40th-50th best team in the nation won the National Championship? That is the same as a sixth place conference team winning the Conference Title.
how did Bama earn the nc last season over Okie St?

if you're undefeated - you did all you can do...

if you lose a game then you didn't earn it - you got the luck of the vote... just like this year... Bama is getting the vote over KSU, Oregon, etc... it is what it is... the worst way possible of determining a champion... it's friggin sad really

conference championships aren't voted on... they are won on the field...

1996 did UF earn the MNC over tOSU?
1998 did FSU earn the right to play for the MNC over tOSU?
2000 did FSU earn the right to play for the MNC over Miami who had beaten them?
2001 did Neb earn the right over Oregon?
2003 did LSU or Oklahoma earn the right over USC?
2004 did USC or Oklahoma earn over Auburn?
this list can go on and on and on

the answer is quite simply no... it wasn't earned on the field... it was decided by pen and paper

this year Wisconsin was probably the 5th best team in the B1G - this was the most unlikely scenerio to play out this year with tOSU and PSU both being on probation... that's a fluke...
I was not questioning your stance of the National Title. I question your idea that Conference Titles are earned relative to National Titles.

The example I gave clearly indicates the exact opposite. Never in history has a 50th ranked team won the National Title, yet this year the sixth best team(out of 12) won the BIG10 Title.

it was a pure fluke this year... name another time where the B1G conference championship was a fluke like this
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